Is The U.S. Going to Occupy Pakistan?

[VCheng]

that's very true....well why do you think even common-man Pakistanis are against so-called aid (read bribes) to Pakistan (government) ?

''aid'' which has had little visible benefit to the PEOPLE of Pakistan? ''Aid'' which isnt even required by a country that survived (albeit with challenges) during a period (a decade) of economic sanctions --imposed by the very same nation's government we are talking about here.

the ''aid'' itself acts as some sort of leverage.....something we should do away with. Ultimately it is Pakistani peoples' obligations to pay their dues (taxes) and it is the governments job to ensure that the funds are collected & expended appropriately

trade is one thing...''aid'' (bribes) is another. Pakistani mangos will make their way to American market. I'm sure American people will enjoy our mangos. I'm sure the Pakistani farmer who grows these mangos and the land-owners for whom they work will benefit. Americans will benefit. That is called good business.

bribing politicians using American tax-payer money is not ''business'' and in fact has been most counter-productive.

accepting the ''aid'' (bribes) is unpatriotic and in fact has been most counter-productive

Excellent point.

I think that there should be an effort to start a grass-roots campaign to reject all US monies so that the influence can be made to stop. I am sure that all those with the ability to influence public opinion will see this as a national imperative instead of "dharnas" and "noora kushties" that have been the norm till now.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

a country with a large, a young workforce, a dynamic private sector that has survived through thick & thin (starting from scratch @ partition); a country that has accomplished unimaginable feats --should not be the one having to take (or accept) ''aid''


trade however should continue....in fact, through commerce and trade --mutual 'understandings' and perhaps some compulsion to maintain it become better rooted. So far, the relationship between Pakistan and the US has been quite transactional in nature --between the governments....

lately on the civilian (common-man level) it is near non-existant....though of course there is a sizeable Pakistani population in the US who have been good ambassadors for both sides.

we digress!

 

[ThunderCat]

Ask yourself- How can 180 million people defend to save Pakistan? throwing stone rock? Many Pakistanis are sold for cash including Abdul Qadeer Khan, Musharraf, Dr. Afridi, etc.

LOL.

Even with guns and tanks, such a large population is difficult to contain. it's never happened before. Iraq and Afghanistan were divided and had much support for the US invasion. Plus Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine have tiny populations compared to Pakistan.

A few hundred thousand armed men/women can simply occupy a country where they are grossly outnumbered. There's no way such an invasion could occur other than the other methods I mentioned. I'm surprised people are even discussing this. Next thing they'll be discussing an American invasion of Europe or China lol.

 

[ThunderCat]

Yeah, brave Iraqis did similar this methods, it doesn't work effectively and physically. Let me give you example, is Pakistan people of 180 million to prevent Drones attacks daily? Nothing.

Think twice.

That's because the drones retreat into Afghanistan. The Pakistani government had been supporting the drone program. If the Pakistani government disapproved, the US drones would be sitting ducks. Even during the drone campaign US drones were shot down by tribesmen. But on a more serious note, don't compare Ariel hit-and-retreat raids to a ground invasion. They are 2 very different scenarios and for the last time Pakistan is not comparable to Iraq. Weather in terms of population or political situations, they are incomparable.

 

[LeGenD]

Even with guns and tanks, such a large population is difficult to contain. it's never happened before. Iraq and Afghanistan were divided and had much support for the US invasion. Plus Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine have tiny populations compared to Pakistan.

A few hundred thousand armed men/women can simply occupy a country where they are grossly outnumbered. There's no way such an invasion could occur other than the other methods I mentioned. I'm surprised people are even discussing this. Next thing they'll be discussing an American invasion of Europe or China lol.

Dude!

The combined population of Iraq and Afghanistan already exceeds 60 million people.

Also, Pakistan has its internal weaknesses like these nations. Allegiences can be easily bought for dollars here, such is the level of poverty. Even rich can be bribed here. In addition, our population never have been prepared for an occupational war.

Take a look at occupation of TTP; how easily this militant group was able to subdue populations in several regions and forced many families out of their homes.

The biggest challenge of any potential occupation of Pakistan would be that it will result in an enormous refugee crises. This factor alone may discourage any potential military occupation of Pakistan. So chill out.

 

[ThunderCat]

Dude!

The combined population of Iraq and Afghanistan already exceeds 60 million people.

Also, Pakistan has its internal weaknesses like these nations. Allegiences can be easily bought for dollars here, such is the level of poverty. Even rich can be bribed here. In addition, our population never have been prepared for an occupational war.

Take a look at occupation of TTP; how easily this militant group was able to subdue populations in several regions and forced many families out of their homes.

The biggest challenge of any potential occupation of Pakistan would be that it will result in an enormous refugee crises. This factor alone may discourage any potential military occupation of Pakistan. So chill out.

Like I wrote, you cannot compare but I'll explain myself anyways. Iraq- about 30 million people. 3 major divisions between Shiatte/Sunni Arabs and the Kurds. Some sides pro-US occupation others not. Those not are targeting US troops and have a great job costing US tremendous manpower and money. Same for Afghanistan. A significant part of the population welcomes the US invasion to get rid of the Taliban and Pakhtun domination.

Pakistan has internal divisions yes but for every single iraq and Afghan you have almost two dozen Pakistanis. Pakhtunkhwa alone has more than half of Afghanistan's population with a rough terrain. Pakistan is not Iraq or Afghanistan.

As for buying alliances, US would probably have to spend quadrillions to bribe millions to fight for them. They couldn't afford it. Even if not for population a lot of other obstacles are in the way. Get real yaar...