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Is sharia totalitarian or does it actually promotes true tolerance and pluralism?

Is not sharia the only system that guarantees a truly pluralistic and tolerant society?


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‘Imposing’ Sharia Law
‘Imposing Sharia Law’

https://abdullahalandalusi.com/2013/12/07/imposing-sharia-law/

What do many media outlets, Western government reports, politicians speeches, ‘Muslim’ modernist rhetoric and Islamophobe propaganda all have in common? They all agree on one thing – to characterise the desire of ‘Islamists’, and Islamic ‘extremists’ as seeking to “impose” Sharia on the world.

The reason they use this line of rhetoric is simple, it makes non-Muslims and Muslims ignorant about Islamic revival, to think that the work to re-establish an Islamic state involves going against people’s conscience, and forcing people to live under a law system against their will.

The truth is actually ironic.

Firstly, ‘Sharia law’ is a tautology, since the word Sharia means ‘Law’ and thus the sentence literally translates as ‘Law law’. The reason the word ‘sharia’ is used, is because it sounds foreign and maximises fear to the ears of non-Muslims.

Secondly, the phrase ‘Imposing Sharia law’ is idiotic, since what law isn’t imposed? Are there voluntary laws? The reason law is called law, and not ‘guidelines’, is because law is obligatory, whereas guidelines aren’t. By definition, en-forcing the law is an imposition on those who break it!

Thirdly, is there any citizen of the U.S., France, UK or other Western nation that can opt-out of the laws they live under without having to leave the country? No. What if a citizen in these countries doesn’t believe in the law, must they be under it? Yes – there is no options given to its citizens to be an exception to the laws.

In fact, many Christians and Muslims have been sent to jail, or are forced to cease following their religious conscience because the law imposed upon them a set of rules they didn’t believe in.


In Western Secular countries, we find Women banned from wearing hijab in schools and Niqab bans across europe. Muslims are forbidden to pray in public in France. Catholic adoption agencies (despite being privately funded) are forced to close for not adopting children to same-gender couples. Christians and Muslims arrested by police for preaching same-gender sexual intercourse is sinful. Christian hoteliers prosecuted for not allowing a same-gender couple to use a room in their hotel. Christian counsellors lose their jobs for refusing to counsel a same-gender couple. Muslims are prosecuted for criticising Western foreign policy. Two non-violent Muslim political parties are banned (which was upheld by European Court of Human Rights) for espousing ideas against Secularism and Liberal Democracy etc etc the list goes on.


Was not the Secular Liberal law imposed upon these tax-paying citizens? Did they have a choice in the matter? No. So Secular Liberal Democracy (Liberalism) doesn’t care whether you agree with it or not, it forces all submit to it, whether you consent or not. As Secularists say ‘One Law for All’… their law.

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Islamic law actually doesn’t impose itself on people without their consent. Every time a Caliph comes to power, the Muslim community must consent through Bayah (pledging allegiance after a decision/election process) to the new Caliph. This then forms a consensual contract with the leader which establishes his authority to rule with Islamic law upon the Muslims. In fact, the Muslims establish a Caliph precisely to rule with Islamic law – and thus discharge their collective obligation to God.

When the Islamic state is created, it will start off with consent of the Muslims, and continue getting its consent with every new Caliph – the same can’t be said for the Western system.

In the West, whether you vote or not, all must obey the imposed government. The so-called ‘democratic’ elections do not give people a choice to affirm a national law or ideology (like whether they want Communism, Liberalism or Islam), but only to select the leader to rule over them according to a pre-arranged system. The people are not requested to consent to their government in the modern democratic system, only to consent to its rulers…and even then, not exactly, since Western rulers tend to generally be elected on a fraction of the actual population. In fact, one could say that the people who voted against the successful candidate will have him/her imposed upon them.

Just ask yourself, while deposed Egyptian president, Mohammed el Morsi, the so-called ‘Islamist’ was obtaining a referendum to get national consent on a new constitution – how many Western countries historically have conducted referendums on their constitutions? Did the so-called ‘free’ country of USA ask its citizens to consent to their famous constitution? No.

Remember when Western politicians were decrying Morsi for not involving more Christian input in the constitution’s drafting? It was said that since Christians are 10% of the Egypt, the constitution should represent them, however, I somehow don’t see France caring if its anti-hijab and anti-Niqab laws represents the 10% Muslim population there (which as you know France can ignore because Democracy tilts towards the majority, and doesn’t care about minorities…unless they happen to a non-Muslim minority in a foreign Muslim country).

It seems the West wants Muslims to be more Democratic than even Western Democracies are!

Lastly, under Islamic law, non-Muslims are not to be subject to laws they don’t believe in. Non-Muslims get to live under their own law systems, under their own regional government in autonomous areas – which historically are either regions like Millets, or city Quarters. Jews lived under Jewish law, Christians lived under Christian law, Zoroastrians lived under their own law, no matter how strange or horrific Muslims found it, like ‘self-marriage’ which was legalised incest. The famous Islamic scholar Ibn Qayyum al Jawziya discussed this specific case and re-iterated the standard Islamic response of non-interference in the practices of Zoroastrians, in his treatise ‘Akham Ahl ul Dhimma‘ (the rulings on non-Muslim contract-citizens [of the Islamic state]).

History and Islamic teaching demonstrates that Islamic law is the only law system that actually didn’t impose itself. The same can’t be said for the totalitarian system of Secular Liberal Democracy, which spreads only its own definition of ‘human rights’ and enforces only its vision on the world’s populations whether or not they have their own differing conceptions of human rights.

Secularism…one law to rule them all…and in the darkness bind them…

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Democracy,freedom and secularism are three most delusional poisonous things ever happened to mankind.These are shadow definitions that can never be implemented in real time environment.Just because people find these things appealing and appeasing to them doesn't mean it will be implemented.
 
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Democracy,freedom and secularism are three most delusional poisonous things ever happened to mankind.These are shadow definitions that can never be implemented in real time environment.Just because people find these things appealing and appeasing to them doesn't mean it will be implemented.
Ok so does that mean i can have slaves again and be an unelected warlord :what:
 
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Democracy,freedom and secularism are three most delusional poisonous things ever happened to mankind.These are shadow definitions that can never be implemented in real time environment.Just because people find these things appealing and appeasing to them doesn't mean it will be implemented.
Isn't it. care to expatiate on why you think so?
 
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Isn't it. care to expatiate on why you think so?
Not at all.Why should i?
I have taken the "freedom" not to explain :azn:
By the way how is MI6 doing?

Ok so does that mean i can have slaves again :what:
Uhh,did you just say sex?ah gave me a hard on,you love democracy? #MeToo :ashamed:

be an unelected warlord :what:
Why would you be an unelected warlord when You can be an elected dramatist with 7000 WMD? Just saying :enjoy:

Next time You use these,at least keep in mind not all people come from same background.You can fool normal hand to mouth people,not guy like me who makes logical expression and algorithm at daily basis and have first hand access to political,military and intelligence infos.
Save it for others. :D
I tell you one thing,i am gonna do bob vegana of democracy and freedom :partay:

Regards,
Former Freedomist,Now Anti-freedomist.
 
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"true tolerance"
HAHAHAHAHAHA

You act like you have a better system, when you really don't.

Isn't it. care to expatiate on why you think so?

No matter who you vote for, 9/10 the elite control who will win and have probably already chosen someone. They can influence your decisions via media campaigns or simply change the votes. Not to mention most of the guys running aren't even all that different when you think about, they'll still be screwing the common man over in some way, shape or form. Democracy is just designed to make people think they have a say, but they don't.

As for freedom, where does it stop? Homosexuals can get married, what about paedophiles? Why can't someone go out in the street completely nude, or completely covered if they wish to? Why doesn't someone in the UK have the right to bear arms? Why are people across the world stuck in a debt trap if they dare try and get an education or buy a house? Freedom is not only subjective, it doesn't even really exist. You are controlled and have restrictions placed on you in some way or another, and of course, some are justified, others not.

Secularism itself means there are no objective laws in place. They will just change with the times, as do most morals constructed by a society. Not only that, but it also means people from completely different societies can have completely different laws, despite living at the same time. There is no objective authority to decide who is right and who is not. If we go by majority, then people in Nazi Germany were justified in almost wiping out the Jews. If we go by treating others as you'd like to be treated, then suicidal people who go on mass killing sprees are also justified. Even if we use the latter whilst restricting it to mentally sound people only, you can still reach different conclusions. Some people don't mind working a job below minimum wage, others do. Not only that, but how do we decide who is mentally sound or not? Suicidal people as well as murderers are just as capable as we are in day to day tasks. The fact is, objective morals don't exist outside of religion. They are simply a by-product of the values of a society, and are often used to act against religion rather than separate it from the state, e.g the burka ban, even though secularism should dictate that people can wear whatever they like.
 
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The truth is actually ironic. Firstly, ‘Sharia law’ is a tautology -
So the author is trying to make his argument on the basis of what "sharia" formally means vs. how the word is commonly used. Mmmm, not buying.
 
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You act like you have a better system, when you really don't.



No matter who you vote for, 9/10 the elite control who will win and have probably already chosen someone. They can influence your decisions via media campaigns or simply change the votes. Not to mention most of the guys running aren't even all that different when you think about, they'll still be screwing the common man over in some way, shape or form. Democracy is just designed to make people think they have a say, but they don't.

As for freedom, where does it stop? Homosexuals can get married, what about paedophiles? Why can't someone go out in the street completely nude, or completely covered if they wish to? Why doesn't someone in the UK have the right to bear arms? Why are people across the world stuck in a debt trap if they dare try and get an education or buy a house? Freedom is not only subjective, it doesn't even really exist. You are controlled and have restrictions placed on you in some way or another, and of course, some are justified, others not.

Secularism itself means there are no objective laws in place. They will just change with the times, as do most morals constructed by a society. Not only that, but it also means people from completely different societies can have completely different laws, despite living at the same time. There is no objective authority to decide who is right and who is not. If we go by majority, then people in Nazi Germany were justified in almost wiping out the Jews. If we go by treating others as you'd like to be treated, then suicidal people who go on mass killing sprees are also justified. Even if we use the latter whilst restricting it to mentally sound people only, you can still reach different conclusions. Some people don't mind working a job below minimum wage, others do. Not only that, but how do we decide who is mentally sound or not? Suicidal people as well as murderers are just as capable as we are in day to day tasks. The fact is, objective morals don't exist outside of religion. They are simply a by-product of the values of a society, and are often used to act against religion rather than separate it from the state, e.g the burka ban, even though secularism should dictate that people can wear whatever they like.


Hmmmm I do have a better system actually.
It's called NOT SHARIA aka any other law where you are aren't screwed if youre not a Sunni male.

"Freedom" won't stop as long as it's hurting or breaching your rights. Public nudity isn't allowed because it's a breach of public decency. Homos marrying will not suddenly give you AIDS or something and doesn't concern you at all (of course this discussion is another one on its own but this is just your example). Paedophilia involves preying on KIDS that are not old enough to give consent (btw marrying of underage girls is allowed in the Sharia). People in most of the world aren't allowed to own guns because handing them over to untrained individuals will endanger the lives of others.

Anything else ? :)
 
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