Is RAW really Blowing up everything in Pakistan , a Flashback to its Past in Pak.

[AbuSalam]

Nice thinking and great mindset!!!! I mean you are are saying that terrorist activities by RAW are showing their competence---this is the mindset that is prevalent in whole indian oligarchs thus problem arises for both of the countries. You cannot expect us to sit like dumb a&&es and enjoy RAW terrorism but answer will be same. But this not the solution.
Hostile nature of indians will not make them bully boy of Asia but will surly increase their enemies, and consequence will be devastating.

THRz a rule of THUMB in all India v/s Pakistan issues
1)INDIA is larger..almost "n" times geographically.
2) Population--n times
3)Size of Economy 50 times,exports 30 times.
all other spheres..number of poor, rich ,super rich billionares,Politicians.everything in multiples...so what am thinking is do not confront India tit for tat..

 

[WAQAS119]

I don't think RAW is involved..

Your thinking cannot change realities.

maybe thr r some military people in embassies trying to collect data about military etc..not the type Pakistan accuses India of..

so innocent!!! Is this that simple a game??

Let me post just one incident ! during the Mumbai incident at the height of Indian Su30's crossing Pak border..the militia men LET & Taliban..offered to fight along side Pak regulars if the Pak army stop operations against them.

Let me correct you! Our own brave tribal offered us to fight against any expected Indian hostility.. They are also participating in operations against indian sponsored TTP.

Thr r lots of terrorists roaming around in Pakistan to create havoc the moment they r attacked elsewhere and who trained these killers..as said before "SOW WHAT U REAP" so when u have very high levels of illiteracy & unemployment do we anything more for these terrorists to multiply ? &

Where were all these roaming terrorist before indian involvement in Afghanistan after 9/11? And I must repeat you statement that 'As You Sow So Shall You Reap'
, this is true for all.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I read the article again to find the proof but still couldnt find it.
What i would love to see is actual convitions, court records. The guilty paraded before the media. ISI reports with a named member making a statment listing the evidence.
Who was paid, when and to do what.

I have no doubt RAW is active in Pakistan, seeing the belief in India that Pakistan still funds jihadist groups to attack India they would be mad not to be.
What i am yet to see is any more proof than Malik says so.

There is in fact no proof, except in the minds of a few fanboys.

It is difficult, for that exact same reason, to adduce disproof.

Instead, I propose to present, one at a time, the views of Pakistanis, most of them responsible members of society, worried about the situation in Pakistan, and no longer willing to go along with these ridiculous infantile tantrums by defeated sectarians who have ripped apart their original conception of a liberal, democratic Pakistan as depicted by Qaid-e-Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah.

If you delve into their personalities and backgrounds, each of the vociferous supporters here will turn out to have been members of the lost generation, those who were fed on doctored texts and an incessant stream of hate by a morbidly-obsessed dictator.

 

[indushek]

Nice thinking and great mindset!!!! I mean you are are saying that terrorist activities by RAW are showing their competence---this is the mindset that is prevalent in whole indian oligarchs thus problem arises for both of the countries. You cannot expect us to sit like dumb a&&es and enjoy RAW terrorism but answer will be same. But this not the solution.
Hostile nature of indians will not make them bully boy of Asia but will surly increase their enemies, and consequence will be devastating.

Chill bro, how many times have we seen these kind of threads?? Look as a common man neither u nor i are privy to any such hard intel. So all we do is make accusations, however sometimes somethings are discernible though not visible (if u know what i mean) so nothing is definite. I was just responding to Joe about the norm here about highlighting of RAW, and we Indians always think about our govt institutions as incapable of any good work, infact many of us have great admiration (though a negative one) of ISI since though it has limitations in funds it has pulled of lot of rabbits from the hat. So when we here something great about our agency it sure makes us bemused (not about killing of people for sure though).

 

[Srinivas]

There are lot of guessing articles you can find in the internet. Unlike ISI which is poised to break India and infect terror you can clearly see RAW do not have any motives. RAW is working for its motherland security by not following aggressive policies like terror, just like ISI.

 

[somebozo]

Largest proof of RAW participation in anti-Pakistan terror was arming and training the Mukti Bahini. If Bengalis were so happy to cozy with Indians, they wouldnt murder entire family of Mujeed few years later on. So if they have done it back in 1971, they could do it again. No doubt about it. They have a clear hand in Baluchistan often confessed openly by Baluch insurgents themselves. Indian has bred an entire army of strictly anti-Pakistan Deobandi preachers who advocate Pakistan as a nation diverted away from its course of "islamic nation" and shall be put back in track..aka become a hardline jehadi state. You just have to attend some indian "Tableegi Jammat" political wings to understand this.

 

[SMC]

There are lot of guessing articles you can find in the internet. Unlike ISI which is poised to break India and infect terror you can clearly see RAW do not have any motives. RAW is working for its motherland security by not following aggressive policies like terror, just like ISI.

To know this, you have to know both RAW's and ISI's policies and their goals from the inside - not what you're talking by GoI or GoP. I highly doubt you have knowledge of either of the two.

 

[AbuSalam]

There are lot of guessing articles you can find in the internet. Unlike ISI which is poised to break India and infect terror you can clearly see RAW do not have any motives. RAW is working for its motherland security by not following aggressive policies like terror, just like ISI.

Yup instead of harming India with thousand & millions of cuts..it should've used that energy to do self betterment !! India is ahead in all spheres..what r u trying to prove..? having Indian hand in all Paks ills ? pathetic !!!

 

[Srinivas]

To know this, you have to know both RAW's and ISI's policies and their goals from the inside - not what you're talking by GoI or GoP. I highly doubt you have knowledge of either of the two.

Buddy can u explain the policies of the spy agencies to people here?

 

[Weapon Of Choice]

Let us believe for a second that RAW is really blowing up everything in pakistan.
What's wrong with it?? I mean isin't this what pakistan's satanic ISI is doing in india for past many decades.
Both india and pakistan are in a state of war from the time they came into being.
I whole heartedly support the activities of RAW in pakistan for whatever it is accused of. That is one of the job of any spy agency.

 

[Patriot]

This is defeatist attitude of our members.Even if RAW is doing it (which i don't think it is.There is no doubt Suicide Attacks are 100% indigenous or Afghan related).We can also retaliate so why are we not retaliating?It means RAW is not behind this.

 

[indushek]

This is defeatist attitude of our members.Even if RAW is doing it (which i don't think it is.There is no doubt Suicide Attacks are 100% indigenous or Afghan related).We can also retaliate so why are we not retaliating?It means RAW is not behind this.

Thanks bro, finally a sane comment.

 

[third eye]

What is the issue here ?

RAW does for its govt what any other Intel agency does for its Govt. As far as deaths in Pak are concerned, going by the number & type of groups that have spawned post Zia, few people as expected would die of old age.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

A prime example of Indian Terrorism.

Flashbacks - Golden Temple attack​

Flashbacks - Golden Temple attack

Twenty years ago this week the India army stormed the Golden Temple complex in Amritsar, the holiest shrine in the Sikh religion.
The BBC's Asit Jolly has been speaking to people involved in the Operation Bluestar and those caught up in it.

The background to Operation Bluestar


Aftermath of the army attack on the Golden Temple complex (Photo: Swadesh Talwar, Indian Express)
In June 1984, India's late former Prime Minister Indira Gandhi gave personal approval to Operation Bluestar.
The objective was to flush out militant Sikhs, fighting for an independent homeland of Khalistan, from the Golden Temple complex.


Bluestar achieved its military objectives.

But the costs were enormous. There has never been agreement on how many people were killed in and around the temple, and how many of the dead were innocent bystanders, rather than militants.

Later that year Mrs Gandhi's Sikh bodyguards assassinated her.

That in turn triggered a wave of anti-Sikh rioting which left nearly 3,000 Sikhs dead.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Flashbacks - Golden Temple attack

 

[WAQAS119]

What is the issue here ?

RAW does for its govt what any other Intel agency does for its Govt. As far as deaths in Pak are concerned, going by the number & type of groups that have spawned post Zia, few people as expected would die of old age.

So you are claiming that RAW is following GoI's order thus this means GoI is not sincere with us even Peace talks are underway!!!!

What exactly is the purpose of peace talks? I guess just an eye wash for world. India want to continue its ambitions to become bully boy of Asia by destabilizing its neighbours. I must tell you that thiis hostile nature of GoI is not new but it has been same since 47 and is the main reason of hot temperature of Subcontinent.