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Is Pakistan ready for foreign tourists ?

When we came back to Pak, my better half and children had their mind set to visit the legendary Naran Valley see Lake Saif ul Malook when we finally traveled, well I summarize our experience as follows:

  • It is not about promotion of tourism it is all about fleecing the tourists considering they are stupid
  • Barrage of beggars and filth
  • Afghan children swarming you with lowest quality sweets
  • No facilitation, no information for tourists
  • No washrooms, where they are they are not suitable for use by any human with a keen sense of smell
  • hostile locals and law enforcement
  • Lowest quality food at exorbitant prices, no hygiene half of your time is spent rushing/finding toilets despite keeping your cars storage compartment filled with mineral water
  • Forgot to mention every local ogling at females which makes female tourists extremely uncomfortable.
Nut shell within two days we decided to travel back, if that's the case with us desis imagine what foreigners would have to endure. I mean I know tourist always are a source of income but such crudeness its really too much. A stinking Karahi and the restaurant people arguing with you there is nothing wrong with that Karahi the stink is normal.

Sum it up, hell we are not ready for tourists.
 
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When we came back to Pak, my better half and children had their mind set to visit the legendary Naran Valley see Lake Saif ul Malook when we finally traveled, well I summarize our experience as follows:

  • It is not about promotion of tourism it is all about fleecing the tourists considering they are stupid
  • Barrage of beggars and filth
  • Afghan children swarming you with lowest quality sweets
  • No facilitation, no information for tourists
  • No washrooms, where they are they are not suitable for use by any human with a keen sense of smell
  • hostile locals and law enforcement
  • Lowest quality food at exorbitant prices, no hygiene half of your time is spent rushing/finding toilets despite keeping your cars storage compartment filled with mineral water
Nut shell within two days we decided to travel back, if that's the case with us desis imagine what foreigners would have to endure.
That is why I said we are not ready for heavy international tourist papulation …. Our Govt have to step in , they cannot leave every thing on private sector ……. First Govt have to develop proper infrastructure of their own (Roads , Hospitals for any emergency , Police , New Laws , Hotels and motels , Transportation , Guide line book , Public facilities like bathroom , markets etc. and most important educating the papulation)
 
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Tourist with money demand resorts and better quality accommodations.
India has been very good at that. They have managed to create a tourist industry for every pocket size.
We right now are only really catering to low end tourist, but if we build better facilities we can attract the high end as well.

Uske sath sath we need safai. Itny gund hoty hmary shehron men. Pairh podon ka nam nahe. Ye Ameer partian usmen aengi?
 
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"Pakistani travelers are not going to have the same experiences as these white influencers are. Pakistani tourists won't receive security escorts when they go to sensitive areas. Pakistani backpackers aren't going to get free handouts just because they walked down the street.
"I experience this first hand as most people think I'm Pakistani when I walk around. Pakistani women message me all the time on my blog that they want come and travel to Pakistan but they're worried because they're not going to receive the same welcome as these white or foreign travelers do."

She has a point though. Pakistanis will give free stuff to complete strangers but will treat their own worse than dogs.

Charity begins at home, and if you want to show off with your "hospitality" then start treating each other with respect as Islam teaches us to, before you start showing off your "hospitality" to strangers.
 
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First of all Pakistan has piss poor infrastructure to cater for its own population never mind hordes of tourists, for now Pakistan is likely to remain just a adventurer tourist destination not one where you can come and stay in a resort on a beach or in resort in the country side of Pakistan with your family.
 
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Is Pakistan ready for foreign tourists ?

ISLAMABAD: Many entrepreneurs associated with the tourism sector, such as tour operators, agree with an American traveller and blogger who recently described Pakistan as a country where tourists face a number of problems.

Alex, who is behind the travel blog called “Lost With Purpose”, was invited to speak at the Pakistan Tourism Summit last month. However, she alleged that her talk was cancelled at the last minute after organisers said it was too critical.

Explore: We need to be honest, Pakistan is not an easy country to travel in: travel blogger Alex

After being “silenced” thus, Alex decided to upload her talk on Facebook. In her talk, she pointed out how the government seemed serious in developing the tourism sector.

In the 14-minute video, however, she argued that the current social media coverage of Pakistan as an ideal tourist destination was rather misleading.

She pointed out that “oversimplification of travel in Pakistan” could create problems for independent travellers as they were likely to encounter unofficial restrictions, harassment from officials, unclear bureaucratic procedures and mandatory armed escorts, besides the potential for cultural clash.

Most private tour operators concede that Pakistan as a tourist destination has long been neglected by the government, which for many years was engaged in trying to improve a deteriorating law and order situation. But they also believe that the outside world considers Pakistan as an ideal tourist destination because of its landscape, culture, history and archaeology, which will pull visitors from all corners of the planet.

During a tourism promotion conference last week, speakers, nonetheless, complained that on the ground, tourists faced many problems starting with the arduous process of getting a “very” difficult Pakistani visa.

“Last year a small number of 17,823 foreigners travelled to Pakistan on tourist visa. The number of tourists should have been in hundreds of thousands, given the potential the country offers. The entire visa process is discouraging [potential tourists],” said president of the Sustainable Tourism Foundation Pakistan, Aftab Rana, who is also a member of the new Tourism Board formed by the PM.

Mr Rana believes that bloggers often exaggerate things in an effort to make their videos viral and says that Pakistan still has a lot of shortcomings.

“There is much reality in her [Alex] observations. Genuine complaints, such as the behaviour of security personnel in her video cannot be wished away and we must address all the problems she has highlighted, especially problems they face with security agencies,” he said.

Other speakers at the conference also complained about how visitors in groups, who came through registered tour operators, were made to step out of their vehicles to register at a dozen or so security pickets before being allowed to continue with their journey into Gilgit-Baltistan.

“That 18-hour journey can easily become a 24-hour one. Even though a new notification about free movement of foreigners was issued in March, it remains to be implemented. Behaviour at check posts with tourists has to be friendly. We must give them respect and honour them. All the positive aspects about Pakistan such as our amazing hospitality will be undermined if these concerns are not addressed,” said a speaker.

“They will pick up the little things that cause them discomfort and inconvenience. We must admit the truth that we do have problems,” he said.

Another private tour operator, Mohammad Ali, said there was no doubt that the visitors did face problems, like getting no-objection certificates and getting “harassed” by security personnel everywhere. “A tourist, who comes in a holiday mood, should not be held up at multiple security pickets as pointed out by Alex,” he said.

Many believe that many factors needed to be managed first — such as how to facilitate visitors by providing them facilities — and only then should Pakistan be publicised as an ideal destination.

“Until then tourists such as Alex will face difficulties and will highlight the problems on social media, which we cannot afford,” said veteran climber Jabbar Bhatti. “If we tell the truth the tourists will still come,” said the oldest Pakistani climber of Mount Everest.

Secretary of the Alpine Club of Pakistan Karrar Haidri drew attention of the authorities towards the lack of facilities and infrastructure, like lack of electricity in most parts of the Northern Areas and road blocks after landslides, which could take three days to clear.

“But the decision to welcome tourists is an excellent one. This will have far-reaching effects in the long run. At least the government is sincere.”

While the Inter-Services Intelligence did not respond to requests for comment and neither did interior ministry officials, the only official who did comment on condition of anonymity said, “Material on social media cannot be used to write reports.”

The Gilgit-Baltistan Council, however, claimed that tourists who visited the region for climbing or trophy hunting faced few problems.

“The concerns are genuine and some corrective measures are needed. But we are a country afflicted with 30 years of terrorism and tourists need to be extra cautious. A tourist visiting Pakistan strictly for tourism hardly faces problems. There was a foreign lady who toured the country on a motorbike and had no trouble,” said one GBC official.

He also drew attention to Pakistan’s social, economic, political fabric which was destroyed fighting a war that was “theirs” and a society exposed to wrongs such as killings and drugs.

“The fact that we did not turn into Afghanistan and Iraq is an accomplishment. And so many tourists still visit Pakistan is fascinating. There is plenty of propaganda against Pakistan and most countries issue unnecessary advisories to their citizens to scare them,” he said.

“Alex obviously holds a grudge for not being allowed to speak [at the conference]. We should break the myth that Pakistan is an unsafe country. There isn’t a better place for tourism than Pakistan despite the limited resources,” said another official.

Published in Dawn, April 22nd, 2019
No bcz of our security agencies and police they will hrass them to death.
 
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Many of the previous Pakistanis sold themselves to the west, and here we are today repeating the same thing again. Whenever a foreign tourist comes and asks us for something we do it immediately, but when a poor man asks us to do something we reject him, we mimic him, we make him an outcaste and we frame him in society. Shame on us.
 
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When we came back to Pak, my better half and children had their mind set to visit the legendary Naran Valley see Lake Saif ul Malook when we finally traveled, well I summarize our experience as follows:

  • It is not about promotion of tourism it is all about fleecing the tourists considering they are stupid
  • Barrage of beggars and filth
  • Afghan children swarming you with lowest quality sweets
  • No facilitation, no information for tourists
  • No washrooms, where they are they are not suitable for use by any human with a keen sense of smell
  • hostile locals and law enforcement
  • Lowest quality food at exorbitant prices, no hygiene half of your time is spent rushing/finding toilets despite keeping your cars storage compartment filled with mineral water
  • Forgot to mention every local ogling at females which makes female tourists extremely uncomfortable.
Nut shell within two days we decided to travel back, if that's the case with us desis imagine what foreigners would have to endure. I mean I know tourist always are a source of income but such crudeness its really too much. A stinking Karahi and the restaurant people arguing with you there is nothing wrong with that Karahi the stink is normal.

Sum it up, hell we are not ready for tourists.

Stay at Army facilities arranged through contacts and the entire experience becomes very pleasant.

Seriously tried-and-true technique.
 
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Long story short. We need resorts all over Pakistan, from the north to the south. The resort should be a large complex, which contains a market, wide variety of hotels/motels(1 star to 4 star) a hospital, clinic, police and fire station, tourist office, lost and found, parks, and transportation.

Not the sort of resorts that come to mind when we say the word resort. These should be like small villages. These should be located near a somewhat large population, so that the locals can buy food from the market and use the medical, police, fire and park facilities. Also these locations should be near huge tourist spots, like naran, etc.

First of all Pakistan has piss poor infrastructure to cater for its own population never mind hordes of tourists, for now Pakistan is likely to remain just a adventurer tourist destination not one where you can come and stay in a resort on a beach or in resort in the country side of Pakistan with your family.
I agree with you, first basic infrastructure like roads, hospital, clinics, police/fore stations and large public parks. Then building actully hotels
 
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Her points are valid for every country you go to, even America where she was born. Her speech was declined rightful so, the summit had its intentions clear. It was about the start of tourism not the downfalls of it. She seems to have been told off that's why she seems so butthurt.

Exactly. I can't believe this woman Alex is getting all the attention. I saw her YouTube video and decided to ignore her--not to grace her with my comments. She can be very easily rebutted.
Of course she has made a few good points especially about the lack of clarity yet on Visa on Arrival. But her overall tone is condescending, bitter and devoid of truth. Sour Loser!

For every one of these bitter persons there are a hundred satisfied foreign tourists. Her lies like being a woman you can't ride motorbikes--well, what about that Canadian woman who toured alone for weeks? About the White Privilege, that's not just in Pakistan but exists in most of the non-Western world to varying degrees. And still Pakistan has a Chinese woman solo traveling and is getting all the love--she ain't white.

I wanted to write a strong rejoinder to this Alex Sourloser on her YouTube complaining video but decided not to give her anymore attention. Unfortunately, Dawn manages to find anything anti Pakistan and highlights that.
 
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Exactly. I can't believe this woman Alex is getting all the attention. I saw her YouTube video and decided to ignore her--not to grace her with my comments. She can be very easily rebutted.
Of course she has made a few good points especially about the lack of clarity yet on Visa on Arrival. But her overall tone is condescending, bitter and devoid of truth. Sour Loser!

For every one of these bitter persons there are a hundred satisfied foreign tourists. Her lies like being a woman you can't ride motorbikes--well, what about that Canadian woman who toured alone for weeks? About the White Privilege, that's not just in Pakistan but exists in most of the non-Western world to varying degrees. And still Pakistan has a Chinese woman solo traveling and is getting all the love--she ain't white.

I wanted to write a strong rejoinder to this Alex Sourloser on her YouTube complaining video but decided not to give her anymore attention. Unfortunately, Dawn manages to find anything anti Pakistan and highlights that.
I feel like she has a personal issue and took everything out on the country. There was also a nordic girl that rode her bike all across Pakistan for months and even camped. Multiple bikers, hikers, and backpackers came and left. They had no issue but she does.
 
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I have still not watched the video and it just doesnt seem to go away. I think we should welcome all sort of opinion though, its not for all of us to see necessarily but as the current government wants to give boost to tourism, they must have got the message by now.

Even without watching the video I’ve got the gist of it. We have a long way to go and we are making a start, now everyone just shut the eff up. We as Pakistanis need to chin up, we know what we are capable off. One thing I want to say is stop this SELF HATE. For the love of God.
 
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