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Is Pakistan moving towards a Civil Disobedience Movement ?

Is Pakistan moving towards a full fledge Civil Disobedience Movement?

  • Yes it is Military's fault for no action

    Votes: 31 21.8%
  • Yes it is Supreme Court's fault

    Votes: 24 16.9%
  • Yes it is Private Channel's fault

    Votes: 12 8.5%
  • Yes it is Fault of Military , Supreme Court and Channel

    Votes: 48 33.8%
  • Yes it is PML , And PPP fault

    Votes: 21 14.8%
  • Yes it is PTI fault

    Votes: 13 9.2%
  • Yes it is foreign interference and plus Military , Supreme court and Channels

    Votes: 91 64.1%
  • No , we will have Milk and Honey flowing in 12 months

    Votes: 15 10.6%

  • Total voters
    142
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News is going around that US is working with the establishment to prop up Showbazz as some sort of statesman with international stature and doing everything to not hold early elections. Miftah is already in US and drawing parallels of IK with Talibans first rule in his speeches to think tanks and there's no way establishment will yield an inch to IK now.

Bad news for IK and his supporters and Pakistan in general. Elections will be held on time in 2023 giving enough time to establishment and their American patrons to build up Shobazz's image.
 
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News is going around that US is working with the establishment to prop up Showbazz as some sort of statesman with international stature and doing everything to not hold early elections. Miftah is already in US and drawing parallels of IK with Talibans first rule in his speeches to think tanks and there's no way establishment will yield an inch to IK now.

Bad news for IK and his supporters and Pakistan in general. Elections will be held on time in 2023 giving enough time to establishment and their American patrons to build up Shobazz's image.
I swear the anger in public is extremely uncontrollable
Establishment should thank GOD IK is extremely pacifist. Otherwise his one order can do a lot of damage.

Forgot 2023
The bubble will brust soon and people might attack GHQ and SC PMO dragging these guys out.
 
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Civil Disobedience Movement is on our Heads

If we look at what happened in India with Farmer's Movement that was a regional movement , it is best Showbaz & Bilawal start booking flights out of Pakistan

If USA loves Shobaz they should make him governor in USA state give him a green card , Pakistani people will happily package him up for Special Delivery

Bilawal can be on a permanent assignment out of country

In Pakistan National Level Movement will happen no doubt
 
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As for the GHQ, I am pretty sure it'll be cleansed by the patriots in the military, whose size is 99.9%. First, let the common folks rise...

There's no guarantee that anyone in the military will do anything. They take orders from the top guy. It's both a good and bad. It's good as the military stays united, but it's bad because they impose even bad decisions on the population.

Having said that, there were instances of the COAS being removed. Ayub Khan was forced to step aside. Zia's plane was blown up. Musharraf was overthrown by his ISI chief, Kayani, in almost exactly the same manner as Imran Khan.

So, it can go either way, but there's no guarantee. It depends on how widespread public agitation gets.
 
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Civil Disobedience Movement is on our Heads

If we look at what happened in India with Farmer's Movement that was a regional movement , it is best Showbaz & Bilawal start booking flights out of Pakistan

If USA loves Shobaz they should make him governor in USA state give him a green card , Pakistani people will happily package him up for Special Delivery

Bilawal can be on a permanent assignment out of country

In Pakistan National Level Movement will happen no doubt
As long as they are in partnership with establishment in doing Amreeka's bidding, no harm will come to them in Pakistan...

In order to upset the status quo of establishment's hold on power corridors, you'd have to fight and actual civil war, that ain't happening with IK's pacifist stance and unarmed movement.

There's no guarantee that anyone in the military will do anything. They take orders from the top guy. It's both a good and bad. It's good as the military stays united, but it's bad because they impose even bad decisions on the population.

Having said that, there were instances of the COAS being removed. Ayub Khan was forced to step aside. Zia's plane was blown up. Musharraf was overthrown by his ISI chief, Kayani, in almost exactly the same manner as Imran Khan.

So, it can go either way, but there's no guarantee. It depends on how widespread public agitation gets.
Army is very good in rooting out insubordination. Of all the garbage leadership PA has been cursed with, it is miracle nay a testament to their pliant/sheep training and nature that there hasn't been one rebellion.

In fact it's in Army's DNA going back to serving under a handful of British officer who then ruled the whole of India on the basis of loyalty form the pliant sheep sepoy foot soldiers.

Looks like HIGHER UPS AND PEOPLE IN POWER ARE GETTING SHAKY LEGS !! BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AIR MARSHALL SHAHID LATIF IS NOW THREATENING PAKISTAN CITIZENS OPENLY !!

On the contrary they gearing up to go Sissy route with full backing and cover from their Amreeki masters...
 
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In order to upset the status quo of establishment's hold in power corridors, you'd have to fight and actual civil war, that ain't happening with IK's pacifist stance unarmed movement.

Unfortunately, Imran Khan is not a revolutionary leader. Like you said, he's a pacifist. He seems to want to rule within the status quo, even if it doesn't allow him to do much good.

We're imagining that Imran Khan, if he comes back, will change the constitution, switch to a presidential system, create many provinces, free Karachi, purge the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the police etc. That's what needs to be done to fix the country.

However, It's all just imagination on our part. At no time has Imran Khan said that he'll do any of the above.

He just wants to return and keep ruling within the existing system.
 
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Unfortunately, Imran Khan is not a revolutionary leader. Like you said, he's a pacifist. He seems to want to rule within the status quo, even if it doesn't allow him to do much good.

We're imagining that Imran Khan, if he comes back, will change the constitution, switch to a presidential system, create many provinces, free Karachi, purge the judiciary, the bureaucracy, the police etc. That's what needs to be done to fix the country.

However, It's all just imagination on our part. At no time has Imran Khan said that he'll do any of the above.

He just wants powerfulto return and keep ruling within the existing system.
Even if he wants to do all these he needs time to first consolidate his power by compromising with the strong stakeholders. For example, Erdo'an took 14 years and had to survive numerous coup and assassination attempts to get to a position to start implementing his original plans....

IMO IK is doing OK so far. Why:
  • He has successfully presented himself and his party to the Pak public as the sole alternative to the ABSOLUTE EVIL. The Pak public has responded accordingly.
  • The public wreath is on IK's opponents.
  • If the "establishment" wants to confront him directly it's a HUUGE risk on their part. They may try to strike a some sort of deal with him. He may agree to the most important points to get to the power to implement his plans one by one. On the other hand, the "establishment" might bet on his getting unpopular with enough passage of time in power. I think it's a bet they'll take.
  • As for the US policymakers, IK is like a hot potato. They might want to subdue him at any cost, but it may turn out to be expensive for them too.
 
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This is very disturbing , hope the lady had proper sleep after the incident
I am not aware what is happening here what is the full scoop I hear some military person left country in haste to London

Who was this person why left the country
This woman is the mother of saem person who fled to london

He's war wounded soldiers who took early retirement after seeing massive corruption on afghan border trade.

He's spokesman of Ex-serviceman
After COAS meeting with Ex-Serviceman he posted on Twitter what COAS said in meeting.
COAS was trying to justify the ouster of Imran khan for which he faced huge backlash from public.

After that he was forced to delete tweets and faced harassment and riads on his house.
He escaped and eventually left the country with the help of some people inside FIA.
 
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Civil disobedience will break this country in pieces. Let's hope that the people who are running the show learn something from their mistakes. This is our country and not a state of the United States. We aren't Americans. We are Pakistanis. We will not obey orders from the Pentagon.
 
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Is Pakistan moving towards a Civil Disobedience Movement ?
In next 30-60 days

As we know Supreme court has gone on nice 90 day vacation

Discuss
1- In absence of clear resolution what are realistic options left for People of Pakistan

What would be the extent of the Civil Disobedience Movement !

Duration
7 Days -15 days - 30 days or 90 days or 180 Days !!!
Its all kinds of tutti frutti, media bakwas that is available on kind of media today. The truth is, we have gangs all over the place. Media gangs, judiciary gangs, political gangs, even gangs in military. These people runs mafias, and control this country.

For example this post : the mafia

Pakistan will start his journey after the brutal crush of all such gangs and mafias. It's my dream that I will assist the operation "cleanup".
 
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