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Check this article out,

http://www.counterpunch.org/hallinan07082006.html

Is Pakistan Expendable?
Dumping Musharraf

By CONN HALLINAN

There is a whiff of "regime change" in the air these days, but not where you might expect it. Not in Iraq, where the conservative U.S.-backed Shiites are already in power. Not in Iran, where White House threats have served to unite, rather than divide, that country. But in Pakistan, where President Pervez Musharraf has recently fallen out of U.S. favor.

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And according to Syed Saleem Shahzad, Pakistan bureau chief for the Asia Times, " Western intelligence" has helped funnel money through Oman, the United Arab Emirates, and London to insurgents in Pakistan's Baluchistan Province.

One can hardly blame Pakistan for feeling as though they are in the U.S. crosshairs. But why the sudden thumb's down from Washington? Musharraf has basically done everything the White House wanted him to do, including breaking with the Taliban and sending 90,000 troops to seal the border with Afghanistan.

The answer is not that Pakistan has fallen out of favor, but that it is a pawn that has outlived its usefulness in a global chess match aimed at China.'

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The law of unintended consequences may be playing itself out with Indian and Pakistan as well. India's central strategy has always been to insure control of Kashmir and to weaken the Pakistani Army, two goals that the Bush administration seems to share.

According to the Asia Times, a CIA official told the Indians that weakening the Pakistani army was central to the U.S. goal of bringing "democracy" to Pakistan, though the lack of it never bothered Washington in the past. The Times also reports that the CIA has been meeting with exiled former prime ministers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif, who recently formed the Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy.

General Hamid Gul, former head of the Pakistani InterService Intelligence organization, told the PakTribune that he thought the United States was aiming to replace Musharraf.

If the United States sides with India on Kashmir, Pakistan could be looking at a strategic defeat in a long-running dispute that would not only weaken the army but possibly destabilize the entire country.


Jump ahead to the year 2000 and a Foreign Affairs article by soon-to-be national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice: "China is not a 'status quo' power, but one that would like to alter Asia's balance of power in its own favor The United States must deepen its cooperation with Japan and South Korea and maintain its commitment to a robust military presence in the region," she wrote, adding that the United States had to "pay close attention to India's role in the regional balance" to recruit the latter into an anti-China alliance.

The anti-China alliance is already well underway.

Japan and Australia have agreed to field U.S.-supplied anti-ballistic missiles, and the administration is wooing India to do the same. While the rationale for the ABMs is North Korea, the real target is China's twenty intercontinental ballistic missiles.

makes sense with their military investment in india, offering nuclear fuel and f-18s, and more stuff that you lot prolly know but i dont.

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Although the author in his article brings up good points, his notion about Pakistan being used as a pawn against China is ridiculous, if anything China is the one firm ally of Pakistan. but other stuff about USA working against Pakistan is factually correct it seems. bhutto and sharif, are two american agents who've damaged pakistan so immensely which Musharraf has been working hard to repair and mostly succeeded.
 
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Welll its not new.

In Balochistan the intellegence was and still may be that KGB, US, India all factors were and still working.

now as far as weakning Pak Army nahhhhh they cant and wont ever.
bringing democracy is also not visible by this way.
After all no matter how stupid the politicians are they wont see their army weakned as this would mean an end to their rule and security of the country which they rule also so this isnt much more than wishful thinking of US.
 
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The mercenaries do get paid handsomely for the task at hand but by definition there is no friendship and no longitivity in the relationship.
Like it or not that is where Pakistani American relationship stands. Do some dirty work and get paid for it, whether your heart and soul is in it or not, like it or not. It is absolute stupidity to ask Bush for things promised to Indians while he stops over in Islamabad to check on Musharraf's performance.
Pakistanis needed to learn and work the American political system but that didn't happen. The Pakistani had no unity or system in the States to nurture those political relationships and also lacked the connections and finesse and had less money as compared to Indians.
As they say Indians and Pakistanis were considered in two different political ball parks. It is considered bad manners if you make demands from the neocolonial boss at the time of his visit.
So any thing can happen, my question is when will Pakistanis get some self respect and stand on their own feet. Almost six decades have gone by since the white masters vacated the Lt. Gov. houses. Is that what Jinnah and Iqbal dreamt about?
 
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airbus wrote:musharaf is bless for pakistan,.........ok
All martial law administrators in Pakistani coups were called blessings in the past. Why are you living in Italy and not in the blessed land?
 
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Sign*Reader said:
airbus wrote:musharaf is bless for pakistan,.........ok
All martial law administrators in Pakistani coups were called blessings in the past. Why are you living in Italy and not in the blessed land?

very good question:coffee:

Lets see what people who live in paksitan have to say about this.
 
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Sign*Reader said:
airbus wrote:musharaf is bless for pakistan,.........ok
All martial law administrators in Pakistani coups were called blessings in the past. Why are you living in Italy and not in the blessed land?

My Dear,
Iam serving in ARMY and in italy iam as military attache......got it.:bat:
:mad:
 
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now as far as weakning Pak Army nahhhhh they cant and wont ever.

You fail to see that the PA does'nt need an enemy to weaken it.

Saying 'cant and wont ever' is alright but you can never say never - history will come to haunt you.
 
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Samudra said:
You fail to see that the PA does'nt need an enemy to weaken it.

Saying 'cant and wont ever' is alright but you can never say never - history will come to haunt you.

Oh my God dear how u are very worried for our army :smile: see yes indeed u r the real friend arround :biggrin:


dont worry our army atleast dont indulg in tomato catchup :biggrin: :biggrin:
weakening it aint easy sweet heart.
 
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Oh my God dear how u are very worried for our army

When your own army aint caring and self respting enough to take back your dead soldiers - somebody has to worry for them.

weakening it aint easy sweet heart.

If PA is becoming any more stronger it is becoming so at the expense of Pakistan.You lost your lands in the East because of this very army that claims to be defending Pakistan.

As I said, you dont need enemies to weaken PA
 
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Samudra said:
When your own army aint caring and self respting enough to take back your dead soldiers - somebody has to worry for them.

Dont wast ur time better invest it on thinking about Indian army soldeirs who are killing each other after becoming sycho :biggrin: and forced deployment in Kashmir and after being fed up of killing innocent people.
 
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Dont wast ur time better invest it on thinking about Indian army soldeirs

That my army does.As we speak, hundreds of Kashmiris are joining the Indian army to fight their enemy.

and forced deployment in Kashmir

Actually, people are volunteering.

after being fed up of killing innocent people.

Children butchering, Hindu massacring people are innocent to you?
 
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airbus said:
My Dear,
Iam serving in ARMY and in italy iam as military attache......got it.:bat:
:mad:

Colonel,

If you don't mind me asking, how did you get such a cushy job? I mean what qualifications and what competition were there?
 
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