The yellow journalism and lies of Indian media is well known but the media jingoism surrounding uri attack and its aftermath has been unprecedented but not surprising. They literally helped their government sell the "surgical strike" propaganda to 1 billion people. The power of the media is really scary if one thinks about it. They are calling for war 24/7 and Pakistani artist are now targets of jingoistic , vile Indian journalist like arnab goswami who is known for click bait stories , lies , bullying , rude manners. He single handedly scripted the whole media trial against Dr. Zakir Naik based on ludicrous and baseless allegations from anti-islamic BD media. Now according to Indian media every single Indian must show what they call "national solidarity" to Modi and the Indian army and even raising questions against government narrative is a grave unforgivable sin:
The Delhi CM here has literally been tried , convicted and sentenced as a traitor to the state.
The Indian actor om puri was also lynched by the media for defending PAK artist in India :
https://defence.pk/threads/om-puri-...television-supports-pakistani-artists.453344/
While here Arnab is questioning the audacity and blasphemy Salman Khan apparently committed by defending Pakistani artist right to not criticize their goverment.
Look at social media and PDF , the indians regardless of party affiliation is defending their goverment's stand.
Part of the narrative is also that the army is a sacred red line that can not be criticized. There is a cult of personality around popular leaders like modi and putin.
Just recently famous American football player , Colin Kaepernic was literally lynched by US media for not standing and singing the anthem as protest for US police brutality against black people. There were calls for him to get his act together , apologies or resign as to recompense for the sin he committed.
The Bath party in ME justified all sorts of heinous repressions and oppression based on arab nationalism.
In BD , the tyrannical awami regime has appealed to its support base with the notion of bengali nationalism. All sorts of ludicrous non-sense and fallacies are being justified with this.
The Nazis during the Nuremberg trials said in their defence ‘we did it in the national interest’.
Attaturk Turkish nationalism required stripping turks off their islamic identity , greeks , armenians , arabs were kicked out and kurds were told to become turkified. Attaurk's famous statement - "How happy is the one who says I am a Turk".
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” George Orwell
What I am trying to say is that for the western lead secular world order certain things have become sacred:
- Instead of venerating God, the symbols of the state *must* be venerated.Instead of blind obedience to God, obedience *must* be demonstrated to the interests of the State (which essentially translates as obedience to politicians whose interests coincide with those of multi-billion dollar corporations).
- Instead of respecting people who serve God, respect must always be shown to 'our troops' who serve the country, and whose loyalty and mission become sacrosanct.
- Instead of following the teachings and books of God, the country's Constitution must be given complete and blind allegiance and can never be challenged.
- Instead of blasphemy being disrespect to God and His Prophets, modern blasphemy becomes to criticize the nation-state or to disrespect its signs.
- And instead of being 'religious', one must be 'patriotic' in order to be accepted and respected.
Like religious belief, the ‘country’ is not a physical entity that can be seen, it has symbols and idols (flags), religious holidays (e.g. Independence days), hymns (anthems), people make symbolic gestures to the idols (saluting the flag, hand on heart etc). Unlike religious belief, where God exists outside of the human mind, and the universe – the country exists purely in the mind (imagination) of its followers. Consequently, it is what is termed Idolatry.
As a muslim I ask muslims to NOT to be like them. Many muslims with good intention do behave just like egoistic nationalists subconsciously because since birth many are taught that unconditional admiration of nation states is something praiseworthy, army has been given a very lofty image and status , students are made to sing anthem and salute the flag etc etc. These are all post-colonial non-sense that were forced on muslims. Nations rise and fall, and are not tangible, living, bestowing entities. They comprise of the people who live in them and who run them. It makes absolutely no logical sense to give ultimate loyalty to an entity that, in the end of the day, is undefinable, temporary, and intangible.
Yes, we obey the laws of the land insofar as they are just and fair, but our ultimate loyalties must be to the Creator of that land, and not to a group of people who temporarily are in charge of it.
P.S - I am not asking muslims not to defend your military. Pakistan has been wronged by India over the last 50 years. Muslims should definitely respect their army men for the work they do but NOT unconditionally and uncritically as secular nationalists do. The respect should be based on islamic solidarity recognizing and acknowledging the fact that the army is defending a muslim territory and goverment is fighting for the interest of muslims. If goverments takes an foreign policy decision that adversely effects muslims of other lands, that should not be supported by muslims . Unislamic acts of goverment and politicians should not be supported but rather their faults should be pointed out with wisdom and kindness. i.e Everything should be supported or opposed based on Islamic principles of judging right and wrong.
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The Delhi CM here has literally been tried , convicted and sentenced as a traitor to the state.
The Indian actor om puri was also lynched by the media for defending PAK artist in India :
https://defence.pk/threads/om-puri-...television-supports-pakistani-artists.453344/
While here Arnab is questioning the audacity and blasphemy Salman Khan apparently committed by defending Pakistani artist right to not criticize their goverment.
Look at social media and PDF , the indians regardless of party affiliation is defending their goverment's stand.
Part of the narrative is also that the army is a sacred red line that can not be criticized. There is a cult of personality around popular leaders like modi and putin.
Just recently famous American football player , Colin Kaepernic was literally lynched by US media for not standing and singing the anthem as protest for US police brutality against black people. There were calls for him to get his act together , apologies or resign as to recompense for the sin he committed.
The Bath party in ME justified all sorts of heinous repressions and oppression based on arab nationalism.
In BD , the tyrannical awami regime has appealed to its support base with the notion of bengali nationalism. All sorts of ludicrous non-sense and fallacies are being justified with this.
The Nazis during the Nuremberg trials said in their defence ‘we did it in the national interest’.
Attaturk Turkish nationalism required stripping turks off their islamic identity , greeks , armenians , arabs were kicked out and kurds were told to become turkified. Attaurk's famous statement - "How happy is the one who says I am a Turk".
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” George Orwell
What I am trying to say is that for the western lead secular world order certain things have become sacred:
- Instead of venerating God, the symbols of the state *must* be venerated.Instead of blind obedience to God, obedience *must* be demonstrated to the interests of the State (which essentially translates as obedience to politicians whose interests coincide with those of multi-billion dollar corporations).
- Instead of respecting people who serve God, respect must always be shown to 'our troops' who serve the country, and whose loyalty and mission become sacrosanct.
- Instead of following the teachings and books of God, the country's Constitution must be given complete and blind allegiance and can never be challenged.
- Instead of blasphemy being disrespect to God and His Prophets, modern blasphemy becomes to criticize the nation-state or to disrespect its signs.
- And instead of being 'religious', one must be 'patriotic' in order to be accepted and respected.
Like religious belief, the ‘country’ is not a physical entity that can be seen, it has symbols and idols (flags), religious holidays (e.g. Independence days), hymns (anthems), people make symbolic gestures to the idols (saluting the flag, hand on heart etc). Unlike religious belief, where God exists outside of the human mind, and the universe – the country exists purely in the mind (imagination) of its followers. Consequently, it is what is termed Idolatry.
As a muslim I ask muslims to NOT to be like them. Many muslims with good intention do behave just like egoistic nationalists subconsciously because since birth many are taught that unconditional admiration of nation states is something praiseworthy, army has been given a very lofty image and status , students are made to sing anthem and salute the flag etc etc. These are all post-colonial non-sense that were forced on muslims. Nations rise and fall, and are not tangible, living, bestowing entities. They comprise of the people who live in them and who run them. It makes absolutely no logical sense to give ultimate loyalty to an entity that, in the end of the day, is undefinable, temporary, and intangible.
Yes, we obey the laws of the land insofar as they are just and fair, but our ultimate loyalties must be to the Creator of that land, and not to a group of people who temporarily are in charge of it.
P.S - I am not asking muslims not to defend your military. Pakistan has been wronged by India over the last 50 years. Muslims should definitely respect their army men for the work they do but NOT unconditionally and uncritically as secular nationalists do. The respect should be based on islamic solidarity recognizing and acknowledging the fact that the army is defending a muslim territory and goverment is fighting for the interest of muslims. If goverments takes an foreign policy decision that adversely effects muslims of other lands, that should not be supported by muslims . Unislamic acts of goverment and politicians should not be supported but rather their faults should be pointed out with wisdom and kindness. i.e Everything should be supported or opposed based on Islamic principles of judging right and wrong.
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@Zarvan @Apprentice @Malik Abdullah @Aslan @Tipu7 @T-Rex @Al-zakir @tesla @Yellow-place @dsr478 @bsruzm @CrimsonFury @Zulkarneyn @HAKIKAT @Jamaal Yelmaaz @jamal18 @LeGenD @Arefin007 @Stannis Baratheon @asad71 @monitor @Psychic @Indus Falcon @Djinn @lastofthepatriots @war&peace @Saiful Islam @django @Sparkle229 @Mrc @alarabi @Decisive Storm @Akheilos @Timur @naveedullahkhankhattak @Talwar e Pakistan @Major Sam
@Ghareeb_Da_Baal @hussain0216 @Azad-Kashmiri @Genghis khan1 @ThE-ShOwStOpPeR @Suff Shikan @user1
@Clutch @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @ebungo @mb444 @Areesh @Kash_Ninja @Assailiant @Moonlight @ebrahym @GenerallyKhan @AUz @PATHAN786KING @Feroz Alam Khan @AsianUnion @James Jaevid @abdulbarijan@That Guy
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