Is Kashmir key to Afghan peace?

[daredevil]

I would suggest you to refrain from speculative and unsubstantiated allegations. What we know is that it was an army general who wanted to have good relations with India just recently. what we also know is that it was Indian army which prevented Indian government from moving forward on Siachen dispute because how would they justify the crippling loss in terms of men and the money spent. what we also know that it was some of your politicians who torpedoed Agra joint declaration. I would advise you to refrain from posting such outrageous comments.
One thing more fellas, changing attitudes of changing US administration appear shocking to you because you recently joined the bandwagon otherwise all their "allies" are familiar with their idiocyncracies.
Regarding Obama, Pakistan knows what are its interests and is capable of pursuing those without any body's approval or otherwise.

There is nothing wrong with speculation as long as there is substance and logic to it.

What I'm saying is, if kashmir problem is resolved, PA will lose its stranglehold on pakistani politics and cannot protect the wealth that the army officers have amassed. Look at the PA's wealth amassed as pointed out by a book written by Dr Ayesha Siddiqi.

Book shines light on Pakistan military's '£10bn empire'

· Business interests range from cement to cornflakes
· Little transparency into officer-led conglomerates

Declan Walsh in Islamabad
guardian.co.uk, Thursday May 31 2007 11.34 BST
The Guardian, Thursday May 31 2007

The Pakistani military's private business empire could be worth as much as £10bn, according to a ground-breaking study. Retired and serving officers run secretive industrial conglomerates, manufacture everything from cement to cornflakes, and own 12m acres [4.8m hectares] of public land, says Dr Ayesha Siddiqa, author of Military Inc: Inside Pakistan's Military Economy.
The book tackles a previously taboo subject - the range and depth of the military's business interests - considered a major factor in the ambitions of the generals who have ruled Pakistan for more than half of its 60-year history. "It feeds directly into the military's political power; it's an expression of their personal and organisation strength," said Ms Siddiqa, a former director of research at the Pakistan navy.

Five giant conglomerates, known as "welfare foundations", run thousands of businesses, ranging from street corner petrol pumps to sprawling industrial plants. The main street of any Pakistani town bears testament to their economic power, with military-owned bakeries, banks, insurance companies and universities, usually fronted by civilian employees. Ms Siddiqa estimates that the military controls one-third of all heavy manufacturing and up to 7% of private assets.

Profits are supposed to be pumped back into schools, hospitals and other welfare facilities - the military claims it has 9 million beneficiaries - but there is little transparency. "There is little evidence that pensioners are benefiting from these welfare facilities," she said.

Of the 96 businesses run by the four largest foundations, only nine file public accounts. The generals spurn demands by parliament to account for public monies they spend.

The military's penetration into society has accelerated under President Pervez Musharraf, who has also parachuted 1,200 officers into key positions in public organisations such as universities and training colleges. The military boasts that it can run such organisations better than incompetent and corrupt civilians.

In a 2004 speech to open a new industry owned by the Fauji ("Soldier") Foundation, General Musharraf boasted of "exceptional" military-owned banks, cement and fertiliser plants. "Why is anyone jealous if the retired military officers or the civilians with them are doing a good job contributing to the economy?" he said.

But Ms Siddiqa says the military businesses thrive, thanks to invisible state subsidies in the form of free land, the use of military assets, and loans to bail them out when they run into trouble. "There are gross inefficiencies and the military is mired in crony capitalism. The primary purpose of a trained military is war fighting. They are not designed for the corporate sector."

Her £10bn estimate of military wealth is a "rough figure", she says, split between £6bn in land and private military assets.

"Military Inc." comes at a sensitive time for Gen Musharraf, who is struggling to rebuild his popularity after the botched dismissal of the chief justice, Muhammad Iftikhar Chaudhry, in March. The move sparked nationwide demonstrations that have snowballed into a powerful protest movement. The furore has offered an insight into the raw power wielded by the generals. This week, Justice Chaudhry told the supreme court how military intelligence chiefs spent hours trying to pressure him to quit on March 9, before placing him under effective house arrest.

Ms Siddiqa fears her book, which names names and pours cold water on boastful claims, may step on some powerful toes. "Over the past three years a lot of my friends have advised me not to publish this book. They think I have suicidal tendencies."

But Talat Hussain, a retired general and political analyst, said Ms Siddiqa was a "courageous" researcher. "This area has always been considered a sacred cow in our society," he said.

The book will be launched in Islamabad today. The main military spokesman, Major General Waheed Arshad, said he had not yet obtained a copy. "Let me read it and then I'll get back to you," he said.

Backstory

The 650,000-strong military has been at the heart of power since Pakistan was carved from northern India in 1947. Generals seized power in 1958 and have ruled intermittently since. The main intelligence service, the ISI, has consistently meddled in politics. Three-quarters of all army recruits come from Punjab, reflecting a similar imbalance in the country's power structures. The army's reputation for professionalism stretches back to colonial days, but has been eroded by business-related corruption allegations and three wars with India, including the loss of its eastern half, with the independence of Bangladesh in 1971.

 

[dr.umer]

There is nothing wrong with speculation as long as there is substance and logic to it.

What I'm saying is, if kashmir problem is resolved, PA will lose its stranglehold on pakistani politics and cannot protect the wealth that the army officers have amassed. Look at the PA's wealth amassed as pointed out by a book written by Dr Ayesha Siddiqi.

Ayesha Siddiqa’s MILITARY INC: A Deflective and Derogatory Book​

Dr Ayesha Siddiqa’s ‘The Military Inc.’ is a book deflective of reality, highly derogatory and against the very notion of sovereignty.

Dr Ayesha Siddiqa launches the book by giving the impression that her intention is to cover the entrepreneurial activities of military worldwide. However, in depth reading reaffirms suspicions that her book massively targets the Pakistan Military and the top echelons of the Armed Forces, most of which are based upon self serving assumptions and intentional hoodwinking. A labyrinth of financial figures is presented to further obscure the ordinary reader’s intelligence.

The book sets forward four arguments. First, that MILBUS (Military Business) is military capital that perpetuates the military’s political predatory style; and is kept concealed and includes questionable transfer of resources from public sector to individuals connected with armed Forces. Second, the military’s economic greed increases in totalitarian systems. Third, Military convinces the citizens to bear additional costs for security on basis of conceived threats to the State. Fourth, the book considers the Pakistan Military the cause of all ills, social disparity and democratic fiasco.

Let’s start by setting the record straight. MILBUS in Pakistan - is the result of honest intentions and visionary policies - to raise independent resources, to self-finance the on-going national technological development, to modernize strategic assets, and most importantly, the determination to rely less on Foreign Aid. While at the same time, build facilities for retired military personnel and their families; and slowly withdrawing from National Defense budget allocation as a percentage of GDP.

MILBUS also exists in well developed countries like the USA, UK, France, China, Israel or even Turkey. The Milbus or the PMEs (Private Military Enterprises) are generally known as the Private Military Industry. Famous US PMEs include Halliburton, Black-water worldwide, Defensecurity, Titan Corporations, Kellogg Brown & Root, Air Scan, DynCorp’s, CACI International, etc. Famous UK PMEs include Black-Op’s and Aegis Defense Services. Most of these are active beneficiaries of the Iraq War. The worldwide PME industry is now worth over $100 billion a year. Thus, this is not just a Pakistan specific industry.

MILBUS in Pakistan is being criticized unnecessarily, with the sole intention to malign the Armed Forces. The Pakistan military has never intended to deliberately conceal their economic activities and they do not cause injustice by weighing heavily on civilian corporate sector or individual leaders.

The book ‘Military Inc’ is based upon a series of presumptions and false accusations. Throughout her book, the author obstinately insists that the growth of Military economy is the case of self interest and predatory acquisition by senior officers, in which it allow the Generals to seek benefit for themselves and their clients.

The author fails to provide, any concrete evidence that could confirm her allegations, that questionable transfer of wealth is made to individuals connected with armed forces. All she could give in example were the 500 sq yard official plots given to the Generals at the end of their service, as part of their benefits, and hence her assumption that a retired general is worth from Rs.150 million to Rs.400 million.

Rarely do critics mention, that nominal deduction from the pay of all military officers are made during their service, in return for a small apartment or a small housing, which is handed over at the time of their retirement. However, this facility is still not available to all retiring servicemen.

Next, the book alleges that the military’s economic greed increases in totalitarian systems, where the general public, private businessmen, civilian corporate sector and national business units are all oppressed to encourage and endorse military business units. Her book focuses largely on the four welfare projects managed by the Pakistan Military i.e. The Fauji Foundation (FF), the Army Welfare Trust (AWT), Shaheen Foundation (SF) and Bahria Foundation (BF), and in some places the Frontier Works Organization (FWO).

The author believes that “the profit earned by military is directly proportional to power and gives the armed forces a sense of being independent of the incompetent civilians” - which can only be considered as an extremely reckless comment.

There was great wisdom behind establishing these welfare projects. The visionary minds knew that “the profit earned by the military will be directly proportional to Sovereignty of the Country and the Institution”.

The Military established its first welfare foundation in 1954, with funds received from the British as part of Pakistan’s share of the Post War Services Reconstruction Fund. In India, those funds were distributed immediately amongst those who fought the Second World War. Unlike India, Pakistan’s wise military opted to use those funds to establish projects that would ensure the overall well-being, availability of jobs, and a decent pension for their armed forces.

The initial purpose of these welfare projects was to create employment opportunities for the honorable retired or disabled military personnel. Servicemen - whose only obligation is defending the borders of Pakistan.

This one wise decision, not only raised the morals of the serving military men, but also gave the ordinary citizens a reason to join the Armed Forces of Pakistan and serve their country. Assured that their future is protected, the servicemen live their lives in testing times on borders, remote locations and a life away from family.

The Fauji Foundation, Shaheen Foundation and Bahria Foundation were all established under the Charitable Endowments Act 1890. The Army Welfare Trust was established under the Societies Registration Act 1860.

Then all these entities are registered Tax-paying Companies. The Army Welfare Trust and the Fauji Foundation pays tax at 20% of their profits. Shaheen Foundation and Bahria Foundation pay Taxes at 30% of their profits. Fair enough!

This limited industrial base that evolved over years added to the military’s credibility and resolves to contribute towards the Nation’s socio-economic development and Pakistan’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Like any ordinary successful businessmen or multi-national corporations (MNCs), the Pakistan Military utilized their available structure, nominal budget and dedicated their human resources for the welfare of the uniformed men and civilians working in those companies. While also pioneering technology, developing expertise and establishing quality control.

The book ‘Military Inc’ accuses the Pakistan Armed forces of running business (MILBUS) that are diverse in nature, ranging from small scale to large scale corporate enterprises. As examples, it quotes Schools, Banks, Insurance Company, Radio and TV, a Fertilizer company, Hospitals and Clinics, Cement plant, Universities and institutes, etc.

Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa left no opportunity to magnify and exaggerate the limited and partial presence of MILBUS competing in Pakistan’s broad based expanding economy.

Let’s analyze the limited magnitude and negligible worth of these Military run ventures, compared to similar mega business entities currently present in Pakistan.

According to State Bank of Pakistan, there are total 73 Banks in Pakistan. From which, there are 24 Limited banks, 11 Foreign Banks, 8 Financial Banks, 4 Specialized Banks, 13 Investment Banks, 7 Micro-finance Banks and 6 Islamic banks. Out of these total 73 banks - Dr Ayesha Siddiqa tends to be intolerable towards ONE ‘Askari Bank’ run by Military? In 2007, Askari Bank paid a Tax of Rs. 743 million.

According to Federal Bureau of Statistics, there are 24 Cement plants in Pakistan, and only ONE owned by ‘Fauji Cement Company Ltd’. A Tax-paying company listed on the Stock Exchange.

According to State Bank of Pakistan, there are total 59 Insurance companies in Pakistan. There are 4 in the Public sector, 50 companies in the private sector and 5 are incorporated abroad. Why should anyone be narrow-minded towards ONE owned by military - ‘Askari General Insurance Ltd’, which is listed on the Stock Exchange and pays Tax?

According to the Health Division and the P.M.D.C, there are around 924 Hospitals, 12,726 Medical Institutions, 560 Rural Health Centers and 4712 Dispensaries all over Pakistan. Out of these, if 10 Hospitals and 20 Medical Centers are being run by Fauji Foundation, what’s the hue & cry about? These Medical services are offered to the military and civilians alike. Even the prestigious Aga Khan Health Services (AGHS) own 7 Hospitals and 164 Medical Centers.

According to State Bank Pakistan, there are above 10 Fertilizer Plants in Pakistan from which 6 are State owned and the rest are private. Out of these, only ONE is military owned, the ‘Fauji Fertilizer Company Ltd’, which is listed on the Stock Exchange and audited by KPMG Taseer Hadi & Co, and pays Tax annually.

According to Higher Education Commission, there are 122 Universities in Pakistan. Out of which, 65 are in the Public sector and 57 in the private sector. Foundation University and Bahria University are the only two affiliated with Armed Forces providing quality education to all citizens alike.

Foundation Schools have 90 branches all over Pakistan; compared to the City School which has more than 150 branches and the Beacon-house School which has around 130 branches. We as a Nation should triumph the quality education being promoted by the Foundation schools and the model paradigm implemented.

The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP) has 50,125 companies registered with it. From these only 9 are MILBUS projects. Why can’t Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa accept these 9 MILBUS projects out of the 50,125 projects broadmindedly?

The author also alleges that Military’s Internal Economy is hampering the growth of Pakistan’s free market economy - which of course is not true. For her information, under this same system and era, and under the leadership of General Musharraf, Pakistan’s free market economy boomed from $75 billion in 1999 to become $160 billion in 2007.

In the last 6 years, the free market economy of Pakistan expanded by $85 billion. The expansion and growth the Civilian Corporate sector, National Business Units and Multi-National Corporations witnessed in these last 6 years remain unprecedented in Pakistan’s Economic History. Hence proven, that Military’s Internal Economy did not hamper Pakistan’s free market economy!

According to Dr Ayesha Siddiqa’s book, the worth of Fauji Foundation is $169m, the worth of Army Welfare trust is $862m, the worth of Shaheen Foundation is $34.4m and the worth of Bahria Foundation is $69m. Total worth of MILBUS entities in Pakistan arise to ONLY $1.135 billion.

Hence, the presence of MILBUS companies, in Pakistan’s free economy of $160 billion, amongst these other sectors and enterprises arises to a negligible maximum 0.8%.

The Karachi Stock Exchange (KSE) Market Capitalization in January 2008 stood at $75 billion. MILBUS worth as compared to KSE again arises to only 1.5%.

It’s amusing to note that Dr Ayesha Siddiqa wrote a whole book, to malign a system (MILBUS) whose worth does not exceed 0.8% of Pakistan’s free market economy.

Dr Ayesha Siddiqa’s desire to portray the Pakistan Military as a coercive and self serving breed aiming to consolidate their economic power at the expense of Pakistan, not only erodes her neutrality into bias, but the above economic comparisons also contradict all her presumptuous and sham claims. As MILBUS in Pakistan has been competing fairly in free market and contributing to today’s knowledge-based economy. It has played an active role to generate revenue for Pakistan and in contributing to overall GDP.

One of the greatest wisdom foreseen, behind establishing MILBUS was to liberate the Pakistan Armed Forces of international aid assistance and interference. Classified financial autonomy gives the Armed Forces a sense of self-respect and confidence of being independent of the dominating ‘International Coalition of the willing’ and their foreign aid.

The Pakistan Army has received a total of around $17 billion from the United States for arms, equipment and compensation since 1954, the year the United States entered into defense pacts with Pakistan. Much of it was uselessly spend during the 1980’s Afghan war and the wars Pakistan fought with India. After 9/11, the famous foreign assistance of $10 billion comprises 60% reimbursement costs for expenditure incurred by the Pakistani Military while patrolling on PAK-Afghan border, recorded in the ‘Coalition Support Funds’. These worthless assistances have not helped the Pakistan Army contrary to perception propagated in media reports.

Because, with these insignificant and worthless assistance, follows a series of humiliating articles and editorials composed in American print media. The clueless and prejudice Pakistani media ignorantly picks up the chanting and further plays an important role in distorting and altering the actual facts and figures. No relevant person is approached to clarify and set facts straight. Authors like Dr Ayesha Siddiqa bank on such distortion to further slander the admirable Pakistan Military.

After year 2000, the $85 billion expansion of Pakistan’s economy, decreased the ratio of US aid & assistance to Pakistan’s economy by around 100%. Now the U.S aid & assistance account to only 6.25% of Pakistan’s expanding economy. Pakistan is successfully wriggling out of foreign influence. Visionary MILBUS was the right step in the right direction at the right time!

Pakistan Military requires a proper platform utilized to clear the misperceptions being propagated against them and counter the sham allegations. In short, Pakistan military lacks the exposure to enhance their PR with the Public. Pakistani GHQ and ISPR should take up an active role similar to Pentagon and make their interactions more effective.

Next, the book ‘Military Inc’ considers Pakistan Military the root cause of social disparity and democratic fiasco. It alleges that socio-political fragmentation would result in strengthening the army’s control over politics. Throughout her book, Dr Ayesha Siddiqa lambasts and scoffs at the concept of MILBUS accusing the military of building assets and calling them as the ‘new land barons’.

In her desperation to smear the Army, she even fails to condemn the corruption practiced and coercive measures exercised by the inept political leaders. How these redundant leaders influence the bureaucracy, alter the constitution, plunder national institutions, stagnated the trade & exports, multiplied the foreign debts for the country, rob the country of the foreign reserves and accumulate their wealth in developed countries - is all together ignored by her conveniently.

The truth is that the Armed forces are forced to intervene reluctantly and take control of the state to save it from the irresponsible and hopeless politicians, who drag the country towards brink of collapse, every time they come to power.

In short, Pakistan’s external debt rose from $18 billion in 1988 to become $38 billion by end of 1999. In 1999, Pakistan’s total debt (internal & external) was almost 90% of its GDP. External debt in ratio to foreign exchange earnings were 347%. Debt servicing allocated in 1999 budget was 61% of total revenue resources. According to the World Bank, in 1999-2000 Pakistan was amongst the highly indebted countries.

Despite the above mentioned debacle for Pakistan - the substantial expansion in the personal wealth, land and business interests of Mr. Zardari and Mr. Nawaz Sharif has earned them a place in the ‘Top 5 richest people’ of Pakistan in 2007. Not a single General or military servicemen made it to the list of ‘Top 40 Richest Pakistani’. Who should we consider a peril to Pakistan’s existence - these fraudulent politicians or the reserved military?

The Raiwind complex of Nawaz Sharif, build on an area of around 2000 acre, consist of palatial residences, 300 acre farm, 500 bed hospital, a school, 200 acre dairy farm, etc - constructed at a cost of above Rs. 800 million. He personally owns Ittefaq foundries, three Sugar mills, numerous Textile mills, Steel Mills, Paper Mills, Spinning mills, Engineering companies, and numerous other business units. He owns several residential properties in Lahore and Muree. He owns vast acres of lands in Sheikhapura, Chunian, Raiwind, Multan and Bhopattian. These feudal turned politicians can easily be labeled as the ‘old Pakistani barons’.

Dr Ayesha Siddiqa also alleges that the military convinces the citizens to bear additional costs for security on basis of conceived threats to the State. She wants the public to believe that their taxes are being exploited at the expense of the notion ‘National Security’. This statement of hers is an attempt to ignore and snub the volatile situation Pakistan faces at its borders.

She also remains oblivious to the fact, that India allocates 5 times that of Pakistan’s defense spending.

However, under President Musharraf, the military spending DECREASED as percentage of GDP and National budget. It now stands at 3% of GDP and 15% of National budget. It strikes out though, how Dr Ayesha Siddiqa veils and ignores the bulk of the National budget of 85% that lies at the disposal of the manipulative hands of our shady politicians. The public has the right to know, what proper utilization has been brought about with that unaccountable 85% in the 1990’s?

This derogatory book ‘Military Inc’ intends to sow seeds of disenchantment amongst the general public against the modest and patriotic institution of the Armed forces of Pakistan, and lower its grace. Those Armed Forces of Pakistan that run to protect and deliver relief, to ordinary Pakistanis in times of calamities, natural disasters, floods, train accidents, and earthquakes. Does Pakistan have any other force or institution which is as disciplined and effective in providing speedy help immediately? Shouldn’t we strengthen this only institution that we have?

The publication of Dr Ayesha Siddiqa’s own book ‘Military Inc’ in 2007, in President Musharraf’s era, repudiates her claims to term the military rule as manipulative and suppressive. It’s evident that no subtle or coercive measures were taken against her or any arm-twisting to curb the publication of this highly controversial book! Where would she find such boundless and gracious freedom? The book ‘Military Inc’ has become a checker of the chessboard being maneuvered by the unknown and ambiguous foreign powers interested in Balkanization of Pakistan.

The ultimate objective of the book ‘Military Inc’ is to perpetrate friction and cause dissent amongst the ranks of the disciplined Armed Forces. By deliberately triggering upheaval within the lower ranks, the intention appears to encourage internal revolt. As a consequence, the unity, discipline and allegiance of the Armed Forces of Pakistan can be destroyed.

Thus, to protect the allegiance of the Armed Forces, the whole concept of visionary MILBUS is justified, as a set of activities for the development of Pakistan’s military might, meant to counter the rising regional threat convergence and decreasing dependence upon foreign aid - ultimately protecting the sovereignty of Pakistan and its savior Armed Forces!

 

[Kasrkin]

I hardly think that the threat from India will evaporate after Kashmir has been solved; what with India's dangerous and ever growing over-confidence, not to mention long term power projection ambitions. But I do think a Kashmiri solution will make it possible for Pakistan and India to at least contemplate the prospect of long term peace and stability.

Besides the notion that Pakistan Army does not want freedom for Kashmir because of some BS written in Ayesha Siddiqa’s book is retarded…

Pakistan has some very legitimate national concerns over Kashmir; even a blind man should be able to see that. So just because Pakistan doesn’t tow the Indian line like a subjugated state should does not mean Pakistan Army has some sinister purpose behind the Kashmir issue.

 

[daredevil]

I hardly think that the threat from India will evaporate after Kashmir has been solved; what with India's dangerous and ever growing over-confidence, not to mention long term power projection ambitions. But I do think a Kashmiri solution will make it possible for Pakistan and India to at least contemplate the prospect of long term peace and stability.

Besides the notion that Pakistan Army does not want freedom for Kashmir because of some BS written in Ayesha Siddiqa’s book is retarded…

Pakistan has some very legitimate national concerns over Kashmir; even a blind man should be able to see that. So just because Pakistan doesn’t tow the Indian line like a subjugated state should does not mean Pakistan Army has some sinister purpose behind the Kashmir issue.

Books are usually banned when the ruling people cannot digest the truth and which exposes them. This is what happened to Ayesha Siddiqa's book.

 

[dr.umer]

Books are usually banned when the ruling people cannot digest the truth and which exposes them. This is what happened to Ayesha Siddiqa's book.

Wikipedia states that there were reports that Ayesha Siddiqi was funded by India. How about digesting that part ?

 

[Imran Khan]

Banned Books in India: Call for Help
Kitabkhana's trying to put together a list of books banned by the Indian government or by various state governments from 1947 onwards in independent India. The obvious examples are there: Stanley Wolpert's Nine Hours to Rama, Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, but we can't locate a broader master list. We did the rounds of the Ministry of External Affairs, where a suffering PR person directed us to the Ministry of Home Affairs, where a suffering PR person directed us back to Point A. If readers know of a list of banned books or know where such a list might be compiled/ found, please email the Babu at hurree@gmail.com. Or leave a comment (yes, we have comments finally after a year of holding out against the dern things, and are we learning how to fight spam!).

posted by Hurree | 6/28/2004 04:15:00 PM

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6 Comments:
Unarmed Victory by Bertrand Russell. The first section of the book is about the Cuban missile crisis. The next one is about the Indo-China war of 1962 and it was banned because it says unflattering things about Nehru.

By Buchu, at 6/28/2004 05:15:00 PM

Polyester Tycoon has been banned as it does not show Dhirubhai Ambani in good light

By Anonymous, at 6/05/2005 05:51:00 PM

Nine Hours To Rama by Stanley Wolpert is banned because it discloses as to who were irresponsible in protecting Gandhiji that eventually led to his assassination.

By aditya, at 6/15/2005 05:37:00 AM

Books , Magazines, Booklets, Newspapers, Journals BANNED by the goverment of india.

What the indian goverment doesnt want the people to know.


‘Hindu Heaven’ by Max Wylie, published by Victor Gollancz Ltd., 14, Henrietta Street, Covent Garden, London.

Miss Katherine Mayo entitled “The Face of Mother India” published by M/s.Hamish Hamilton Ltd., 90, Great Russel Street, London.

“Old Soldier Sahib” by Private Frank Richards published by Faber and Faber Ltd., London.

“The Land of the Lingam” by Arthur Miles published by Hurst and Blackett Ltd., Paternoster, House, London

“Mysterious India” by Moki Singh published by Stanley Paul and Company Ltd., London

“Scented Garden (Anthropology of sex life in the Levant)” by Bernhard Stern, M.D., translated by David Berger, M.A. and published by the Ethnological Press, New York

July, 1946 issued of the journal “Britannia and Eve” printed by Odhams C.Watford Ltd., St. Albans Road, Watford, England and published by the Proprietors, British National Newspapers Ltd., Commonwealth House, 1-New Oxford St. John and containing an article entitled “Codijah the First and Devoted Wife of Mahomet” written and illustrated by F.Matania

“Behind the Iron Curtain in Kashmir:Neutral Opinion” and “The Kashmir Dispute Through Neutral Eyes”

PAKISTAN-PASMANZARWA PESHMANZAR, by Hameed Anwar, published by Ishait Manzil, Bull Road, Lahore

‘CEASE-FIRE’ by Agha Babar, published by Little Theatre Group, Lahore

‘KHAK AUR KHOON’ by Nazim Hajazi, published by Quami Kutab Khana, Lahore

CHANDRAMOHINI

MARKA-E-SOMNATH by Maulana Muhammad Sadiq Hussain Sahab Sadiq Siddiqui Sardanvi of Lahore

“BHUPAT SINGH’ (a tale of adventure of well-known outlaw of Saurashtra) written by Kaluwank Ravatwank, published by Messrs Ummar Hussan, Newspapers Agent, Sukkur, Sindh and printed at the Milat Printing Press, Lee Market, Karachi (Pakistan)

“American Military Aid to Pakistan (Its full implication)” written by Salahuddin Ahmed, published by Abdus Salam on behalf of Crescent Club from 37, Bishnuchara Das Street, Dacca and printed by G.A.Chowdhury, B.A. at Paramount Press Ltd., Dacca

"What has Religion done for Mankind” published by the Watch-tower Bible and Tract Society, New York

“Rama Retold” written by Aubrey Menon, published by Chatto and Windus Ltd., London and Clarke, Irwin Co. Ltd., Toronto, and printed by Butler and Tanner Ltd., Frome and London, in the United Kingdom

“Dark Urge” written by Robert W. Taylor and published by Pyramid Books, 444, Madison Avenue, New York, 22, N.Y.

The Ramayana” by Aubrey Menon, published by Charles Scribner’s Sons, New York

“Captive Kashmir” written by Aziz Beg, published by Allied Business Corporation, 54, The Mall, Lahore and printed by the Pakistan Herald Press, Karachi

“The Heart of India” by Alexander Campbell, published in English by Alfred A. Knopf, New York

“Nine Hours to Rama” by Hamish Hamilton Ltd., London

Any issue of the Tamil weekly entitled “Desabhimani” edited and published by Hassan Mohideen Packeer Mohindeen at Colombo, Ceylon

Any issue of the Urdu newspaper entitled “Daily Jang, Karachi” edited, printed and published by Mir Khalil-ul-Rahman from the Javed Press, Macleod Road, Karachi

“Nepal” by Toni Hagen published by Kummerely and Frey, Berne, Switzerland

“Ayesha” written by Kurt Frishchler, translated from German into English by Norman Denny and published by Barrie and Rockliff (Barries Book Ltd.), 2 Clement Mn., Strand, London and printed in Great Britain by Charles Birchall and Sons Ltd

Urdu periodical “Bang” published by ‘Azad Kashmir Radio

Any issue of Portuguese bulletin entitled “Noticias De Portugal – Boletin Semanal Do Secretriado Nacional Da Informacao” published from Palaciao Foz, Lisbon, Protugal

Any issue of the periodical entitled “Korea News” published by Korean Central News Agency, Pyongyang, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

Lushai weekly entitled “Ramthar” printed at Aung Thazin Press, Rangoon and published on behalf of Burma Lushai Organisation

Any issue of the weekly periodical entitled “The Muslim World – A Weekly Review of the Motamar” edited, printed and published by Inamullah Khan, Secretary-General, Motamar al-Alam-al-Islami (World Muslim Congress), from 294, Bahadur Shah Zafar Road, Karachi-5, and printed at Karachi Printing Press, South Napier Road, Karachi-2

Any copy of any issue of “Goan Voice” published by Majestic Printing Works Ltd., Nairobi

Any copy of any issue of the Magazine entitled “Noticia” published from Angola

Any issue of Portuguese newspaper entitled “Noticias De Macau” published from Macao

Any issue of Tamil weekly paper entitled “THEEPORI” edited by Mr.M.K.Anthonisil and published from Hatton (Ceylon)

The Jewel in the Lotus” (A Historical Survey of the Sexual Culture of the East) by Allen Edwards, published by Lancer Books, Inc. 185, Madison Avenue, New York, N.Y.10016 and printed in the U.S.A.

Any copy of any issue of the Magazine entitled “EASTERN HORIZON”, a monthly review, published by Eastern Horizon Press, 18, Causeway Road, 1st Floor, Hong Kong

Any issue of the Bi-Monthly International Magazine entitled “REVOLUTION” published from 52, Rue Galande, Paris 5, France, printed in France

“The Evolution of the British Empire and Commonwealth from the Americal Revolution”, by Alfred Le Ray Burt and published by D.C.Heath and Company, Boston, and printed in U.S.A. October, 1965

Any copy of the magazine entitled “Chinese Literature’ Nos.11 and 12/67” published by Foreign Languages Press, Pai Wan Chuang, Peking (37), China

A Struggle between two lines over the question of How to Deal with U.S.Imperialism” by Fan Asid-Chu, published by Foreign Languages Press, Peking, 1965

“Man from Moscow” by Greville Wynne, published by the Arrow Books Ltd., 178-202, Green Protlan Stree, London WI

Any issue of the periodical entitled “The Call”, the journal of the Afro-Asian Writers Bureau and published from 73, Castle Street, Colombo 8, Ceylon and P.O.Box No.9007, Peking, China

Any copy of the periodical entitled “The Vanguard” printed by the Challenge Press Pvt. Ltd., 66-Sydney Road, Coburg, Victoria, 3058 (Australia)

Any issue of the Punjabi Weekly entitled “LALKAR” printed and circulated by Avtar Singh Johal (a British National of Indian Origin holding British Passport No.937574), on behalf of the Extremist faction of the Association of Indian Communists in Great Britain, from 8, Sycamore Road, Smethwick Warley, (UK).

“MAKING THE MODERN WORLD – ASIA – FOOD AND PEOPLE” by Barry Williams, (edited by John Robottom, published by Longman Group Limited, London, first published 1970, and printed in Hong Kong by Sheck Wah Tong Printing Press)

“Early Islam” by Desmond Steward, published by ‘Time Life’ International (Netherland) N.V. and printed in 1971 in Holland

“Political Leaders of the Twentieth Century-Nehru-A Political Biography” by Michael Edwards (first published by Allen Lane the Penguin Press, 1971, published in Pelican Books, 1973, and made and printed in Great Britain by Coz & Wyman Ltd., London, Reading and Fakenhan set in Monotype Times)

“India Independent” by Charles Bettelheim, first published by Librairie Armand Colin, Modern Reader Paperback first edition 1971

“China’s Foreign Relations Since 1949” (World Studies Series) by Alan Lawrence, Department of History, Halls Park College of Education, Hertford, first published in 1975 by Routledge & Kegan Paul Ltd., Broadway House, 68-74 Carter Lane, London Ec 4V 5E1 and 9 Park Stree, Boston Mass, 02108 USA

 

[daredevil]

Wikipedia states that there were reports that Ayesha Siddiqi was funded by India. How about digesting that part ?

But wikipedia doesn't cite any reference for this allegation. Can you provide more credible source?.

 

[dr.umer]

But wikipedia doesn't cite any reference for this allegation. Can you provide more credible source?.

Since when you started asking for "credible sources" ?

Dr. Ayesha Siddiqi didn't provide any "credible source" or even single evidence supporting her claim and still you are raving about this book. First get me the credible sources of her allegations and then ask me a credible source.

You haven't even read that book and I am sure of it.

 

[daredevil]

Since when you started asking for "credible sources" ?

Dr. Ayesha Siddiqi didn't provide any "credible source" or even single evidence supporting her claim and still you are raving about this book. First get me the credible sources of her allegations and then ask me a credible source.

You haven't even read that book and I am sure of it.

Dude, she has written bits and pieces of the contents in various articles over the years and later compiled and made a book.

A sample of her bits and pieces written in pakistani media. link

 

[dr.umer]

Dude, she has written bits and pieces of the contents in various articles over the years and later compiled and made a book.

A sample of her bits and pieces written in pakistani media. link

Dude, I didn't ask how she compiled her book. Is it that hard to understand that whole book is without any evidence or a single supporting document ?

Read the whole book first and then talk about it.

 

[daredevil]

Dude, is it that hard to understand that whole book is without any evidence or a single supporting document ?

Read the whole book first and then talk about it.

Did you read the book?.

 

[dr.umer]

Did you read the book?.

Yes. I did.

 

[doobie86]

man, if Pakistan actually did give up its part of Kashmir and India followed suit, whats stopping Pakistan from turning Kashmir into another Afghanistan, it'll be the same story only this time it'll be closer to home, Pakistan will no doubt use the religion card and try to influence politics in the hopes of installing a pro-Pakistani, anti-India govt. next thing you know, Pakistan has a direct land route to China and India is, well, unhappy. Good luck trying to convince any Indian otherwise. The only way about this is if India retains all strategically important locations, because I doubt they would agree to anything else anyways, Pakistan will then also want to hold on to some of its strategically important land and so the only way out is the Kashmiri's getting a small, landlocked country to call home, and I guess both countries could drop in from time to time to see how things are moving along and verify that everything is still neutral and hunky dory.

 

[daredevil]

Yes. I did.

Are you sure?. You didn't find any references at the end of book?.

The book is open right in front of my eyes.

 

[dr.umer]

Wise guy, let's not derail thread by discussing that useless book.

Purchase the book and find it yourself what kind of references are there.