Is Karachi not a part of Sindh?

[Max]

No, we are occupied by Sindh.

 

[Cliftonite]

Then work together for the betterment of the province and country. Stop inciting separatism and hatred.

Shut up. We have never advocated for separatism. We only want the right to govern over our own city.

And the poor Sindhi labourer is just as much victim of you feudal lords as we Urdu speakers are. We want to get rid of the monster of Bhutto.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Yes. Exactly. This Altafist label for every Urdu speaker has gotten stale and overused.

Ek dafa azaadi dilwayi thi 1947 mein. Ab doosri dafa hum Karachi ke saath saath Thar ke ghareebon ko bhi inn Bhutto ke jiyalo se azaadi dilwayen ge.

Bhutto tu kasam se mulk k do tukray kerky, Karachi ko musalsal aag lagay k, Sindh k bera gharaq kerky, lait gaey qabar main.
Zia nain sai tanga is namoonay ko. Haq pe phansi lagi hai. Or jin logon k liay bhutto zinda hai woh bs bhutto k bahanay loot maar kerna chahtay hain or kch nahi.

 

[Syed1.]

Some outsiders might not know this but for Urdu speakers JI was the go to choice before MQM emerged and it also remained the choice for alot of Urdu speakers who were dismayed by MQM's violence, even if you weren't overly religious. This is because JI is/was democratic and did not participate in violence. My own family had voted for JI for many years before PTI emerged. Voting for PPP was like shooting your own self.

 

[Cygnus Black]

Karachi people has buried MQM and voted PTI.

Had PTI really cared about Pakistan's most important city, they would have returned its federal capital status. Or at least made it winter capital.

 

[Cliftonite]

Then work together for the betterment of the province and country. Stop inciting separatism and hatred.

What about your khusra leader who threatens to make Sindhudesh if article 149 is invoked? Humare saath tou yeh games khail hi mat na tu. Larkana mein chal jayen ge Karachi walo ke saath nahi.

 

[krash]

Quaid wanted Karachi to be capital of Pakistan,

Given the condition the country was born into, there weren't many choices. Later on, there weren't any such restrictions. Given Karachi's condition for the past many decades, many would argue that it ended up being a pretty fruitful decision.

this was not acceptable to Punjabi establishment instead they moved the capital barely a stone's throw away from LOC. Amazingly stupid decision.

Harsh but true.

Was Ayub Khan a Punjabi?

What exactly did the "Punjabi establishment" gain by moving the capital to Islamabad?

Also, Karachi's location right on the coast was arguably less secure, as evident from 1971.

Jab tak Karachi capital tha, mulk sahi chal raha tha.

Was it? There's plenty out there to show otherwise. Regardless, what exactly was it that made Pakistan better with Karachi as its capital?


ps: I don't really care for childish ethnic rivalries. However, I can't let ethnically charged, unfounded claims, that are only made by a specific group, go unanswered either. Point in case the following comment,

People of Pakistan out because of their hate and inferiority complex of Urdu speaking people has destroyed Karachi

I'm sure the armed gangs masquerading as political parties, flaming and riding this exact ethnic hatred, that were kept in power for decades by Karachi had nothing to do with it at all. It was definitely the rest of Pakistan.

 

[Cliftonite]

Separation ki baat karay Billo Rani aur ghaddari ka ilzaam hum Urdu speakers pe lagay?

 

[Cygnus Black]

What about your khusra leader who threatens to make Sindhudesh if article 149 is invoked? Humare saath tou yeh games khail hi mat na tu. Larkana mein chal jayen ge Karachi walo ke saath nahi.

Stop bullshitting. Bilawal never threatened, he only warned of the consequences of separating a province from its capital.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Then work together for the betterment of the province and country. Stop inciting separatism and hatred.

Sincere suggestion, defeat PPP in next election from sindh. Our probem is basically PPP's unwarranted policies for whole sindh. PPP talks about democracy but in reality doing kleptocracy, nepotism, corruption.
Elect the honest political party who really think about people and people needs.

Unfortunately karachits has no other choice but to vote for mqm and pti.

 

[Cliftonite]

Given the condition the country was born into, there weren't many choices. Later on, there weren't any such restrictions. Given Karachi's condition for the past many decades, many would argue that it ended up being a pretty fruitful decision.



Was Ayub Khan a Punjabi?

What exactly did the "Punjabi establishment" gain by moving the capital to Islamabad?

Also, Karachi's location right on the coast was arguably less secure, as evident from 1971.



Was it? There's plenty out there to show otherwise. Regardless, what exactly was it that made Pakistan better with Karachi as its capital?


ps: I don't really care for childish ethnic rivalries. However, I can't let ethnically charged, unfounded claims, that are only made by a specific group, go unanswered either. Point in case the following comment,



I'm sure the armed gangs masquerading as political parties, flaming and riding this exact ethnic hatred, that were kept in power for decades by Karachi had nothing to do with it at all. It was definitely the rest of Pakistan.

We are sick and tired of having to answer for MQM. And that too a rogue faction of MQM. Why don't Pathans ever have to live with the ghaddari of TTP? Why don't Punjabis have to live with the ghaddari of Nawaz Sharif in Kargil? Why don't Sindhis have to live with the ghaddari of Uzair Baloch and Aman Committee?

We are just asking for our rights. Make us a federal territory. Stop this whataboutism by bringing in Altaf Hussain everytime. And if you wanna talk about it, then address the thousands of Urdu speakers killed extrajudicially in false operations all throughout the 90s.

 

[krash]

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Separation ki baat karay Billo Rani aur ghaddari ka ilzaam hum Urdu speakers pe lagay?

Didn't Altaf Hussain actually threaten separation?

It's hard for people to admit openly that they follow the exact same garbage that they blame the other for.

 

[AZ1]

Zulm kara hei poray pakistan nei karachi se sath. Ais ko sindh ke sath jor ke really. PPP or sindhi has nothing to do with Karachi all they do is grab high posts they can't even win 1 seat and yet having govt in a city on which pakistan is dependent.

 

[AZ1]

Didn't Altaf Hussain actually threaten separation?

It's hard for people to admit openly that they follow the exact same garbage that they blame the other for.

And we karachities showed him the way. Can sindhi do the same?

 

[Blacklight]

Didn't Altaf Hussain actually threaten separation?

It's hard for people to admit openly that they follow the exact same garbage that they blame the other for.

He is not talking about separation, he is talking about making Karachi a Federally Administered Territory.

Any which way you look at it, Karachi as a Federally Administered Territory suits the State of Pakistan, just fine, and actually works at strengthening Pakistan and CPEC.