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Is it time to care about the Muslims in China?

China knows how to put troublemakers in their place which is one of the reasons I like China. :enjoy:

For the Chinese members, this poster is one of the members here who advocates discrimination against non-muslims (if you read some of his posts you will understand) back home in Bangladesh but seem to get his cheeks wet when his fellows are being torn apart elsewhere.
 
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China knows how to put troublemakers in their place which is one of the reasons I like China. :enjoy:

For the Chinese members, this poster is one of the members here who advocates discrimination against non-muslims (if you read some of his posts you will understand) back home in Bangladesh but seem to get his cheeks wet when his fellows are being torn apart elsewhere.

These kinds of people of worry me. When they live in a country with 1k USD GDP/capita, whose sovereignty is being suffocated by a neighboring hegemon, their first priority should be their own national interest and not some nebulous concept of a global ummah.
 
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These kinds of people of worry me. When they live in a country with 1k USD GDP/capita, whose sovereignty is being suffocated by a neighboring hegemon, their first priority should be their own national interest and not some nebulous concept of a global ummah.
This is what I have been saying for a long time. What's ironic is that even their Arab masters mock them at drop of a hat because of their economic conditions. If there is a medicine that is capable of convincing South Asians their priorities, I would use all of my personal wealth to buy and make them take it.
 
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China knows how to put troublemakers in their place which is one of the reasons I like China. :enjoy:

For the Chinese members, this poster is one of the members here who advocates discrimination against non-muslims (if you read some of his posts you will understand) back home in Bangladesh but seem to get his cheeks wet when his fellows are being torn apart elsewhere.

He support killing of secular blogger and french journalists but goes crazy over ban on fasting (though I don't support chinese government on this).
 
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Is it time to care about the Muslims in China? - Islam21c

Chinese Uyghur Muslims Under Oppression: Where is the World?

Attention by the mainstream press on the situation of Chinese Uyghur Muslim minority is dwindling. This, however, does not mean that their oppression by the Chinese government has ended. Just a couple of weeks ago I met a Chinese Uyghur Muslim who had left enormous landlocked Xinjiang to pursue further education in the UK. We had a thought-provoking conversation about the situation of his community in China.

To practice Islām completely in the vast autonomous region of north-western China is to live under an intricate series of regulations and restrictions directed to prevent the spread of Islām in the country. For around 8 million Muslim Uyghurs, discrimination, harassment, and oppression have become a horrific reality. Violent clashes with state forces have frequently occurred. Last year, for example, a protest turned riot ended in a large number dead.

The Chinese government has and continues to use heavy-handed strategies to suppress the Uyghur minority. Two of Islām’s five pillars – observing the fast in the holy month of Ramadan and thepilgrimage to Mecca – are also strictly regulated.[1] [2] Workers may lose their job if found to be praying or fasting at work during Ramaḍān – this is, reportedly, as it has been all along.[3] There have been cases where school students are forced to eat and drink during daylight in Ramaḍān or face dismissal.[4] Restaurants which closed during Ramaḍān are threatened with fines and cafeterias at state institutions are required to keep records of who has eaten.[5]

Not satisfied with prohibiting fasting, praying, and ḥajj, the government has long attempted to restrict the use of a veil for Muslim women, often through official order. More recently, the government introduced a new repressive regulation called “Project Beauty,” in which women are prohibited from wearing the face veil, known as Niqāb in Arabic, and men are not permitted to grow their beard.[6]

The New York Times also reported that Chinese Uyghurs are only permitted to use a specific version of the Qur’ān which had been approved by the authority.[7] Imāms are forbidden to hold private Islamic circles, and learning Arabic is only permissible at particular government institutions.[8] It wasreported earlier this year that Imāms were forced to dance in the street and to tell the people to stop practicing Islām.[9] There have also been incidents where Imāms are specifically targeted by the security forces.[10]

The government has labeled every major attack in the country as ‘terrorist’ attacks and has blamed them on Muslim Uyghurs.[11] Many of them have been sentenced to death and some to life imprisonment.[12] However, most of these allegations are weak, and evidence is rarely publicised. China has also imprisoned Uyghur activists, teachers, journalists, and writers for exposing the regime’s policy towards the Uyghur minority. It does not stop there, however, the Uyghur’s religious activities being restricted. The BBC reported that central government policies have gradually curtailed their commercial and cultural activities.[13]

Although several Human Rights organisations have warned the Chinese government for its continuous oppression against the Muslim Uyghur minority, their calls have frequently fallen on deaf ears.[14] The government claims that their actions are justified as a means of counter-terrorism. China has been seeking global support for its own campaign against the Uyghur minority by depicting them as terrorists with overseas connections. This situation has been exacerbated by the fact that not only has the government unwittingly contributed to the oppression, but the international community has also largely maintained its silence on the situation.

Undoubtedly, the ongoing oppression against the Chinese Muslim Uyghur minority cannot be allowed to continue. These people need serious, real, and genuine efforts by both the Chinese government and the world community to end this continuing misery.

If it is true that these people are a threat to Chinese society, it must be acknowledged that assassinating them, imprisoning them, or inhibiting them from practicing their religious duties would not in any way solve the problem. Rather, they are only likely to enforce antagonism and extremism. It is hard to see when all of this is going to end, but one thing has to be made very clear: if all of us remain silent, we will eventually have to pay a heavy price.

So what now?

So what can we do for our brothers and sisters in China? Firstly we must continually remind ourselves that they are in fact our brothers and sisters—despite their plight being notably absent from our public discourse. We must remember that the bond of īmān is stronger and more sacred than the bond of biology, as the Prophet (sallAllāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) likened us to one body. This should bring about a sincere love, and an eagerness and sincere desire to help our brothers and sisters.

This desire to help then needs to be steered towards means which will help bring about an ease to the suffering of our brothers and sisters. The first and foremost means to anything as a Muslim is to turn to Allāh sincerely that He gives us the tawfīq to make change. A truly believing Muslim is one who sees this causal relationship between du’ā and achievement, like he or she sees the relationship between eating and satiation; between fire and burning; the natural laws. Unfortunately du’ā is often looked down upon as something for the weak to take part in or as a last resort, but if we truly appreciated the power of Allåh and our dire need for Him, then we would realise the priority that du’ā has in any pursuit.

Once we have established our need for Allāh’s help and make du’ā to Him regularly for facilitating a path to ease for our brothers and sisters’ suffering, we must think of strategies to bring about this desired objective. It may be that Allāh, once He has seen the sincerity with which we beseech Him for our brothers and sisters, opens up a path for us to take as a means to this end. This may be in anything from speaking to politicians, activists, celebrities and wealthy businesspeople, to creating petitions, documentaries, raising awareness or even imploring people with power and influence closer to the region. We are not claiming to have the definite answers here, but we can be certain of one thing: if we truly care enough about our brothers and sisters, and we sincerely beseech Allāh constantly, He will facilitate a path for us to help our brothers and sisters one day.

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THis article is highly suspicious. Even from its link. It looks bogus. Most likely a propanganda article smearing China.

I suggest OP not to be taken so quickly about any article regarding China on uyghur.
First of all, China never stop Uyghur from practicing their religion and never restrict any of their practice. Many so called restriction is BS. The only thing China do practice one is banning of burqa due to terrorism as many disguise and evade capture. This is practice by France and Holland. So I do not know what is the issue?

Let me show you an typical BS article on China about muslim
Chinese Imams Forced to Dance - Asia-Pacific - News - OnIslam.net

The fact is, China is stopping extremism and these imam are just doing folk dancing to support fight against extremism. Nothing Haram.

To Denounce Islamic Militancy, Chinese Imams Dance and Pledge Allegiance to the State – Strategic Intelligence Service

Does they r "not the only Muslim community in China" argument justifies state sponsored persecution of Uygur muslims?

So u will force ordinary chinese muslims to be communists? I thought china gave freedom of religion to its citizens?




Niqab is a islamic practice but that's another discussion. Whatever it is how should it concern china? A communist secular state that didn't have problem with the islamic attire for 100s of years? Muslims in china didn't suddenly fall from the sky u know.

As for beards, what abt the numerous reports abt ban on not only beards but basic islamic practices like prayer, fasting and regulating young people from going to the mosque. Only china does such hideous acts against muslim.




U denying it won't make it false. U can only deny with no substantial argument.

And even if i agree with your denial for the sake of argument , people can't make reports out of thin air . There has to be some substance and in china's case it seems very much true. China is not north korea and information does readily come out of it no matter how much censorship is done.




When almost every Uyghur is suspected for "terrorism" then its definitely a joke.

And does "terrorist" attacks justify chinese persecution of ordinary Uyghur muslims? Banning fasting, forcing students to eat during ramadan, regulating entry to mosque, putting chinese flags inside mosques, making a mockery out of muslim imams etc etc.

American atrocities doesn't justify chinese atrocities.




If a chinese men peeks inside the house of muslims and tells them what to do , then yeah its definitely wrong and oppressive.




What's wrong in the author's argument?





Why restrict muslims from basic religious practices? And how come u expect people to accept such hideous oppression? Do u have a mind of your own or a CCP trained robot?



Does jailing "terrorist" involves banning fasting, prayer and other basic islamic practices of muslims?




So u claim to be representative of millions of chinese muslims?

A syrian muslim can still fast and pray under chinese/russian/iran backed assad air strikes unlike Uyghur muslims.



They have it so good that they have to risk their lives to escape china.

Define mainstream society ? Paying taxes and not breaking laws should mean mainstream. Vast majority of Chinese muslims already do that.

But u r preventing them from even migrating to turkey.

Many of your accusation against China is unfounded and are false lies setup by the western. Please do not easily believe such nonsense regards to uyghur issue.
 
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Ask yourself why this is happening,

@Luffy 500 China has 10 minority Muslim groups, why others no problems??why others are peaceful?

Please pay attention to Turkey's Kurdish human rights, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, the terrorists and the western intrusion,

China thing, you don't understand,so, don't need your care

before 2009, have you ever heard of Uyghur? When China poor, foreignconcern about Chinese minority? The so-called oppression of Uyghur, just a Western stop the rise of China's plan.I don't do too much to explain


About the article, again and again mentioned "oppression" problem,

1 China forbidden to fast, This explained a long time ago,, minors in Chinese is not religious, so schools are not allowed tofast. So is the government agency, because you choose to join the Communist Party, do not conduct religious activities in the office.

However, these two provisions are not strictly enforced, there are still a lot of minors and government officials to participate in religious activities (including various religious), in the mosque, church, temple, no mandatory ban, but in addition to schools and government agencies.

2 on the prohibition of veiled women problems, did not prohibit ordinary veil, Chinese ban the burqa. before no the attacks, may u have heard China "banned"anythings? ,.
This early in France banned, you can go to the attention of human rights in France, the French have a greater proportion than Chinese muslim.

Sorry, my English may not good.
 
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Because they don't have Turkish support. Turkey sees these as part of their Pan-Turkic expansion.

This is what they believe in: Pan-Turkism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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This is an important reason,Turkey first manufacturing problems,
At the same time, some countries want to stop China rise, therefore, to give Chinese manufacturing problems, Uyghur, just can use.
 
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If you are the wrong Muslim we'll be the hardest punch into your face...
No, it is not about being a 'wrong Muslim' but anybody who does not agree with Beijing's line. Remember Tiananmen square incident? Those were ordinary Chinese students and no 'wrong Muslims', yet they had the hardest punch in their faces and I believe they deserved it.
 
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I would take myself before my country other than anything else

Some of the Ultranationalist Uyghurian should act before their homeland and Country, in which is People Republic of China and if they can't accept some of the communism value they should learn something from the Hui on how to acts as rightful and law abiden Citizen
 
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No, it is not about being a 'wrong Muslim' but anybody who does not agree with Beijing's line. Remember Tiananmen square incident? Those were ordinary Chinese students and no 'wrong Muslims', yet they had the hardest punch in their faces and I believe they deserved it.
Tiananmen this matter, these people, if successful, Chinese could not have today's achievement. They are justbeing used by the West pieces. Nice, they fail!
 
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This is an important reason,Turkey first manufacturing problems,
At the same time, some countries want to stop China rise, therefore, to give Chinese manufacturing problems, Uyghur, just can use.

Well, those countries that you are referring to are allied with Turkey. As you know, Turkey is a NATO country. So, there you go. If they can start up a civil war in Syria, then why not in China as well.
 
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