Is Israel a True Ally of the United States?

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

And the Israelis did attempted to destroy our Nuclear Programe in the Past. I mean A denuclearized Pakistan would have been a great gift for the Unkle Sam by the Israelis.

 

[TruthSeeker]

And the Israelis did attempted to destroy our Nuclear Programe in the Past. I mean A denuclearized Pakistan would have been a great gift for the Unkle Sam by the Israelis.

Why didn't they succeed? Anyway they didn't and if they tried it was for themselves, not the US.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

Did they do that for the US or for themselves?

I think for both. It was a common Interest of both the US and Israel. The US had to maintain its superiority in the Middleast. And if the Iraqis had Nuclear bomb the things which we are seeing these days would be compleetely differnt . I mean the Iraqi - OIL was what US got due to that Strategik Arial Bombing.

 

[Joshi]

So, Joshi, if it's such "open knowledge", why don't you give me a few examples of tangible help that Israel has given the US, not just your conspiracy theory BS.....

What Conspiracy Theory?

OK you tell me if it's not for it's vested Geo-political interests, then why US help Israel too much?
Give answer to this question non-diplomatically.

Secondly. US has no historical connection to Jews. Then what make Americans so kind hearted helping people that they are helping Jews get a state in the MIDDLE EAST, where co-incidentally most of the world's oil and natural gas is found... Oh I forgot America's Democracy preaching, Pro-Freedom Foreign Policy.

But where is your shame supporting Theocratic regimes side-by-side? No Democracy valued then?
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I remember a quote by an American President in 1920s which was like...
'America's business is business.'

That totally sums up your Foreign Policy since then. Where there is no business, there is no America, and where there is business there is America. And there is a lot of business in Middle East.
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Does it still sound like a Conspiracy to you Mr. Truth Seeker?

 

[TruthSeeker]

Does it still sound like a Conspiracy to you Mr. Truth Seeker?

Yes. Please don't derail the thread. Can you give me some examples of Israel helping the US in a tangible way (not just in your mind) or not?

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

More ever the display of Latest US milletery Hardware in the Israely conflicts creates more worth for the US milletery Hardware in the Arms - Market bringing Billions of $$s of income.
for example due to the outstanding performance of the (US)Israeli F-15s in the Arab Israeli War . Saudia-Arabia got intersted in it and sighned the biggest Arms Deal worth Billions with the US to procure F-15s.

 

[Joshi]

Yes. Please don't derail the thread. Can you give me some examples of Israel helping the US in a tangible way (not just in your mind) or not?

You are not getting my point, do you?

Israel's mere presence in Middle East is more helpful to US than anything else.
Israel gives US the Diplomatic foothold in the Middle East. Just imagine Middle East without Israel. And think of how much less of influence US will have with the absence of Israel as it's ally.

That makes sense and I know you understand what I mean. Just want to turn the other way around.

 

[Joshi]

Here you go Mr. TS.

Israel has more companies listed on the NASDAQ than any country outside North America.
Google it.

That means Business, that means money, and that's what US loves buddy. Isn't it?

 

[Desertfalcon]

Here you go Mr. TS.

Israel has more companies listed on the NASDAQ than any country outside North America.
Google it.

That means Business, that means money, and that's what US loves buddy. Isn't it?

What are some of the big Israeli companies listed on the NASDAQ? About the only Israeli company I have even heard of is IMI, Israeli Military Industries, which we don't buy anything from.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Israel's mere presence in Middle East is more helpful to US than anything else.

I do disagree. I believe our support of Israel has cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. No arms sales can offset even 1% the cost that our support of Israel has entailed. If that is the tangible help that Israel has rendered, then no thanks.

 

[Joshi]

Here is the biggest help US got from Israel:-

During the Cold War it was Israel that supplied US with the Russian made weapons, as it had a stockpile of Russian made weapons. These Weapons were provided to the Afghan Mujjaheddin which finally defeated the USSR.
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So, Mr. TS was it any small of a help?

 

[dabong1]

Be an ally. Pakistan is a better friend to the US in tangible terms than is Israel......

I agree..


"The best of mankind will come from the jews and the worst of mankind will from the jews."

Jerusalem will the capital of the world with the UN ,world bank ect all moving there and the isreali will try to sell the deal to the world as a measure that sorts the ME conflict....i wonder how many jews there will be working in the corridors of power .....there we be a sprinkling of goyim for PR.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Israel has more companies listed on the NASDAQ than any country outside North America.

Allowing Israeli companies to sell stock in the US helps Israel, not the US.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

but in reality isreal is not a true ally of US. But the Mutual interst makes them one in almost every Arena.

 

[pak-marine]

You call this help? The US could easily stir up wars in the ME by giving more sophisticated arms to other ME countries, for example, Iran.

US wont come up directly it uses israel and thats why they help created Israel

first war : so caled War of Independence (1947 - 1949)
2nd The Sinai Campaign (Operation Kadesh - 1956)
3rd The Six-Day War (June 1967)
4th The War of Attrition (1968-70)
5th The Yom Kippur War (October 1973)
6th The Lebanon War: Operation Peace for Galilee (1982)
7th The Gulf War (1991)
8th The Second Lebanon War (2006)
9th the Gaza war
10th Afghan War
11th Iraq war
12th Pakistan war
13th could be Iran and so on

dude war is big business , people or countries get scared other one threatens one pile up weapons ... and so on its a huge industry .... just do the numbers man its bigger than any other industry. a bullet costs may be a dollar imagine those billions of bullets and misles fired every day and then multiply em over the years.