Is China's record trade growth 'fair' to the rest of the world?

[Martian2]

China is accommodating to western companies, because China has an annual trade surplus of $400 billion to $500 billion per year. Most of that trade surplus derives from trade with western countries.

A few minor issues must not jeopardize China's trade surplus and peaceful relations with the west.

Thus, China is focused on the strategic picture and is not intent on winning every tactical battle. Winning the war is more important than a few minor incidents.

 

[scope]

Recently even small potato Canadian pm tried to preach shit to CPC during a trade negotiation.

I think the reason is that these CPC guys are nerds at heart. They're good for engineering, running the economy, migrating rural people to cities, and making weapons. However, they usually lack the killer mindset. Whereas, the West is by default run by the world's #1 terrorists, liars, and war criminals.

 

[Jlaw]

I think the reason is that these CPC guys are nerds at heart. They're good for engineering, running the economy, migrating rural people to cities, and making weapons. However, they usually lack the killer mindset. Whereas, the West is by default run by the world's #1 terrorists, liars, and war criminals.

I don't think being smart is a bad thing. They need some trolls in the CPC. It's like a hockey team with great goal scorers and good defense but without any goons. You can't win the cup being just a finesse team.

 

[scope]

I don't think being smart is a bad thing.

I agree. It is not bad. However, there are limits to what nerds can achieve. Like you said, China needs a mix. Martian2 made a good point about picking our battles wisely but focus on winning the war. I think there is a middle ground, where our primary interests can be secured while messing with the West.

For example, the West uses the CIA's new face, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), to incite unrest in target nations to destabilize them. They run campaigns in Tibet, Xinjiang, HK, etc. I don't see why China should not return the favor.

The West, at this time, is more unstable as ethnic tensions continue worsening as their economy is increasingly challenged by an ascendant China. Exacerbating the brain drain reversal is just one of many ways to accelerate the West's decline. Increasingly nativist sentiments combined with racial profiling have pushed numerous Chinese scientists back East. They cannot afford to lose that talent, which is why they should be poached even faster.

 

[Jlaw]

For example, the West uses the CIA's new face, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), to incite unrest in target nations to destabilize them. They run campaigns in Tibet, Xinjiang, HK, etc. I don't see why China should not return the favor.

They can't even write a news article with proper title. What chance do they have against CIA with money , experience, and established reputation? Ancient Chinese rulers take advantage of situation. Modern Chinese leaders, with exception of Mao does not. Case in point, in 2013 at the height of tension with Philippines, China had a chance to fully control Huangyan iskand since PH was busy fighting a hurricane that struck them hard. Instead China sent hospital ship to PH. Now Huangyan remain unresolved.

 

[scope]

Modern Chinese leaders, with exception of Mao does not

That goes back to their benevolence mindset. I think, if they wanted to, they could learn alternative...harder approaches to attaining their objectives. China can make their own supercomputers so it's not a lack of iq. The problem appears to be in their mindset and some inexperience (but that can be rapidly fixed).

re:reputation
That was the past. Alternative media has changed a lot of that. Lots of whistleblowers now. Internet/social media is a whole new battlefield. There were a few pla essays on this. They know what's up...to a degree.​

 

[Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA]

China is accommodating to western companies, because China has an annual trade surplus of $400 billion to $500 billion per year. Most of that trade surplus derives from trade with western countries.

A few minor issues must not jeopardize China's trade surplus and peaceful relations with the west.

Thus, China is focused on the strategic picture and is not intent on winning every tactical battle. Winning the war is more important than a few minor incidents.

Half of the said trade surplus isq made by western companies themselves!

 

[TaiShang]

I agree that a little bit of more of aggressiveness and bullying is the call of the time. After all, there must be a reason to build such a strong army with complete nuclear retaliation capability.

If not in terms of territorial expansion, China needs to switch to a higher gear in terms of rhetoric and discourse.

However, I am still not sure which rhetoric is most destructive to the West in the long term:

1. The discourse of Russia-Today or Sputnik that mock the West and point out their fault lines by disrespecting their most cherished icons such as democracy and human rights?

2.The discourse of Peoples Daily or CGTN that presents the Belt and Road narrative and an alternative world view?

Would the result be different from the USSR if China went an openly aggressive rhetoric against the West by demonizing them?

I do not know the answer.

Perhaps China has surpassed the USSR in terms of material-technological capacity to face off the West so the result would not be similar if China confronted the West on the discourse plane head to head.

Read President Xi's The Governance of China Volume II (in English or in Chinese, or available online and also for sale). I find it hard to believe that such a strategic and philosophical minded person would miss out the big strategic picture.

Still, of course, we cannot be sure the editors of various publications houses (such as in the OP) are of the same mind (or realization) with President Xi.

 

[Georg]

China is not the only booming country.. Germany export raised till Nov 2017 by over 8 % over record year 2016 and like China it raised with all major trading partners ... EU USA and China..roughtly the same ammount

 

[Martian2]

Half of the said trade surplus isq made by western companies themselves!

No. The US value added from manufacturing on mainland China is 4.2%.

Chinese exports to the United States contain 4.2% value-added by American companies.

The bulk of the Chinese trade surplus accrues to Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies.

It doesn't matter that Taiwanese companies have a large share of the Chinese trade surplus, because much of it is reinvested into mainland China. Examples include the new multi-billion dollar plants being constructed on mainland China by TSMC and AU Optronics.
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[AndrewJin]

China is not the only booming country.. Germany export raised till Nov 2017 by over 8 % over record year 2016 and like China it raised with all major trading partners ... EU USA and China..roughtly the same ammount

Then you should create a thread in south asia section or europe section.

No. The US value added from manufacturing on mainland China is 4.2%.

Chinese exports to the United States contain 4.2% value-added by American companies.

The bulk of the Chinese trade surplus accrues to Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies.

It doesn't matter that Taiwanese companies have a large share of the Chinese trade surplus, because much of it is reinvested into mainland China. Examples include the new multi-billion dollar plants being constructed on mainland China by TSMC and AU Optronics.
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Mexicano rocks!

 

[Georg]

Then you should create a thread in south asia section or europe section.


Mexicano rocks!

As I mention the overall numbers for 2017 are not published yet... only till Nov 2017

 

[TaiShang]

No. The US value added from manufacturing on mainland China is 4.2%.

Chinese exports to the United States contain 4.2% value-added by American companies.

The bulk of the Chinese trade surplus accrues to Taiwanese and mainland Chinese companies.

I am very grateful that you have demolished one of the enduring city rumors (as to high-value added in China's exports controlled by US companies).

The other rumor that cannot be scientifically debunked enough is the so called China's over-dependency on export as percentage of its GDP.

In fact, that's almost half as small when compared to, for instance, Germany and about the same with the US.