Is China bigger or the rest of East Asia and ASEAN combined together bigger?

[beijingwalker]

Is China bigger or the rest of East Asia and ASEAN combined together bigger in area? Who knows the facts and figures

 

[beijingwalker]

China looks bigger on the map

 

[Psi]

I doubt ASEAN is even half the size of China

 

[pr1v4t33r]

I doubt ASEAN is even half the size of China

including the water body, ASEAN + East Asia - China is quite big. Indonesia alone take quite a big chunk.

 

[beijingwalker]

including the water body, ASEAN + East Asia - China is quite big. Indonesia alone take quite a big chunk.

South China Sea should not be included, only the landmass

 

[pr1v4t33r]

South China Sea should not be included, only the landmass

For continental country like China yes, but for Indonesia, Philippines, and Japan this "rule" should not be applied. We are Archipelagic countries. In Indonesia, homeland literaly called "tanah air" or "land-water" not without reason.


From the ASEAN wiki, and this

Total ASEAN landmass is around 4,435,618 km2

ASEAN territorial waters cover 3 times larger than the land, around 13.3 million km2
Combine land and water territory of ASEAN around 17.7 million km2, even bigger than Russia total landmass.

Indonesia landmass is around 1,904,569 km2 and water area cover around 5,8 million km2.
Combine land and water territory of Indonesia around 7.7 million km2.

Total China landmass is around 9,596,961 km2

 

[alaungphaya]

Countries of Asia by Size Area (List)

China: 3,694,982 square miles (9,596,961 sq km)

Indonesia: 735,358 square miles (1,904,569 sq km)
Mongolia: 603,908 square miles (1,564,116 sq km)
Myanmar (Burma): 261,970 square miles (678,500 sq km)
Thailand: 198,456 square miles (514,000 sq km)
Japan: 145,883 square miles (377,835 sq km)
Malaysia: 127,317 square miles (329,750 sq km)
Vietnam: 127,220 square miles (329,560 sq km)
Philippines: 115,830 square miles (300,000 sq km)
Laos: 91,429 square miles (236,800 sq km)
Cambodia: 69,899 square miles (181,040 sq km)
North Korea: 46,540 square miles (120,538 sq km)
South Korea: 38,502 square miles (99,720 sq km)
Taiwan: 13,891 square miles (35,980 sq km)
Brunei: 2,228 square miles (5,770 sq km)
Singapore: 267 square miles (693 sq km)
Hong Kong: 421 square miles (1,092 sq km)

You're right. The rest of E.Asia and ASEAN combines only comes to about 2.5million miles^2 even including Mongolia. That's quite eye opening. Myanmar is the second largest ASEAN country and twice the size of Vietnam (never knew that) and the Koreas and Taiwan are tiny.

India: 1,269,219 square miles (3,287,263 sq km)
Kazakhstan: 1,049,155 square miles (2,717,300 sq km)

India is also tiny by comparison to China and not much bigger than Kazakhstan. Makes you think.

 

[beijingwalker]

Countries of Asia by Size Area (List)

China: 3,694,982 square miles (9,596,961 sq km)

Indonesia: 735,358 square miles (1,904,569 sq km)
Mongolia: 603,908 square miles (1,564,116 sq km)
Myanmar (Burma): 261,970 square miles (678,500 sq km)
Thailand: 198,456 square miles (514,000 sq km)
Japan: 145,883 square miles (377,835 sq km)
Malaysia: 127,317 square miles (329,750 sq km)
Vietnam: 127,220 square miles (329,560 sq km)
Philippines: 115,830 square miles (300,000 sq km)
Laos: 91,429 square miles (236,800 sq km)
Cambodia: 69,899 square miles (181,040 sq km)
North Korea: 46,540 square miles (120,538 sq km)
South Korea: 38,502 square miles (99,720 sq km)
Taiwan: 13,891 square miles (35,980 sq km)
Brunei: 2,228 square miles (5,770 sq km)
Singapore: 267 square miles (693 sq km)
Hong Kong: 421 square miles (1,092 sq km)

You're right. The rest of E.Asia and ASEAN combines only comes to about 2.5million miles^2 even including Mongolia. That's quite eye opening. Myanmar is the second largest ASEAN country and twice the size of Vietnam (never knew that) and the Koreas and Taiwan are tiny.

India: 1,269,219 square miles (3,287,263 sq km)
Kazakhstan: 1,049,155 square miles (2,717,300 sq km)

India is also tiny by comparison to China and not much bigger than Kazakhstan. Makes you think.

Hong Kong is part of China

 

[alaungphaya]

Interestingly, if you take Tibet and Xinjiang out (~1 million sq.miles), then China is about the same as ASEAN+EAsia.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Hong Kong is part of China

Right bro, and so is Taiwan.
国共两党首度共同确认"两岸同属一个中国"_新闻中心_中国网

Talking about Taiwan, may I side-track a bit. Last year when I traveled to Taipei for summer holiday, I noticed the map they use differs to that of Beijing (i.e. the 9.6 million sqkm version), seems a lot bigger. Both Beijing and Taipei should standardize the map.

 

[LowPost]

Right bro, and so is Taiwan.
国共两党首度共同确认"两岸同属一个中国"_新闻中心_中国网

Talking about Taiwan, may I side-track a bit. Last year when I traveled to Taipei for summer holiday, I noticed the map they use differs to that of Beijing (i.e. the 9.6 million sqkm version), seems a lot bigger. Both Beijing and Taipei should standardize the map.

If KMT were to take over Zhongnanhai and and maintained their claims I wish them best of luck in handling the situation. Just saying. Also I want to show you lot another version of the map for comparison:

 

[Hello It's me]

Countries of Asia by Size Area (List)

China: 3,694,982 square miles (9,596,961 sq km)

Indonesia: 735,358 square miles (1,904,569 sq km)
Mongolia: 603,908 square miles (1,564,116 sq km)
Myanmar (Burma): 261,970 square miles (678,500 sq km)
Thailand: 198,456 square miles (514,000 sq km)
Japan: 145,883 square miles (377,835 sq km)
Malaysia: 127,317 square miles (329,750 sq km)
Vietnam: 127,220 square miles (329,560 sq km)
Philippines: 115,830 square miles (300,000 sq km)
Laos: 91,429 square miles (236,800 sq km)
Cambodia: 69,899 square miles (181,040 sq km)
North Korea: 46,540 square miles (120,538 sq km)
South Korea: 38,502 square miles (99,720 sq km)
Taiwan: 13,891 square miles (35,980 sq km)
Brunei: 2,228 square miles (5,770 sq km)
Singapore: 267 square miles (693 sq km)
Hong Kong: 421 square miles (1,092 sq km)

You're right. The rest of E.Asia and ASEAN combines only comes to about 2.5million miles^2 even including Mongolia. That's quite eye opening. Myanmar is the second largest ASEAN country and twice the size of Vietnam (never knew that) and the Koreas and Taiwan are tiny.

India: 1,269,219 square miles (3,287,263 sq km)
Kazakhstan: 1,049,155 square miles (2,717,300 sq km)

India is also tiny by comparison to China and not much bigger than Kazakhstan. Makes you think.

Even though, India is 1/3rd of China, the population is spread across the country while in China the population is concentrated only towards the east. Most of the land in China lies barren.

 

[Shotgunner51]

If KMT were to take over Zhongnanhai and and maintained their claims I wish them best of luck in handling the situation. Just saying. Also I want to show you lot another version of the map for comparison:

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Thanks for the info! Anyway China's map has always been changing for many millennia (see below), just need an agreed update between different parties for the current one.

Middle Kingdom for recent two to three millennia

202 BC

669 AD

1208 AD

1271 AD

1368 AD

1820 AD

 

[DoTell]

Here is the map of the Chinese Empire in the eyes of the almighty British Empire in 1910. It was less than 1/3 of what is today. Smaller than "Indian Empire" (in light pink). We must be the "most peace loving people" (the name they crown to Tibetans nowadays) in the world back then

 

[applesauce]

Here is the map of the Chinese Empire in the eyes of the almighty British Empire in 1910. It was less than 1/3 of what is today. Smaller than "Indian Empire" (in light pink). We must be the "most peace loving people" (the name they crown to Tibetans nowadays) in the world back then

the areas such as tibet and mongolia, among others, are listed a "dependents of china" and the whole thing(including dependents) is the "empire of china" of course this is also during the final days of the qing dynasty when it had lost control over even china proper and japan was already showing its militism for a decade or so