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Is Atheism the Solution to Religious Persecution in Egypt?

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Violence against Christians is the latest sign of the precarious state of the Arab Spring. Unless moderate liberals can modernize Islam, atheism is the only option for Egypt.

Being Christian can be a bloody business. Today, we are the world's most persecuted religion, especially in Muslim countries. Radical Islamists are waging a war against Christian minorities, the violent wing of Islam's radical fringe is rearing its ugly head. All this despite the firm conviction -- articulated by many Islamic scholars -- that religious violence is by itself a violation of God's will. This has been made blatantly clear by the recent violence against Christians in Egypt and the unrest that resulted from it.

On the far side of the Mediterranean, an impressive struggle for freedom has unfolded over the past nine months. Yet it has also created a power vacuum that is now being exploited by a wide range of groups. Among those who have been empowered are Islamist groups who believe that Islam alone can provide the rules and norms according to which society must be organized. As a reminder: This is the exact opposite of the words of Pope Benedict XVI. before the German parliament. He demanded the retreat of the Church from the political sphere. Christianity never pretends to provide the faithful believer with a comprehensive list of laws according to which one ought to live in the world.

It should be self-evident that a state grounded in the doctrine of a particular religion does not afford general freedom of religion, nor will it accept many other liberties that have been at the core of modern societies: freedom of science, freedom of the press and others. Because Islamists are active in many countries -- and because the conservative Salafist movement can count on financial support from Saudi-Arabia -- politicians, activists and organizations in the West must make it their priority to curb the influence of Islam on the emerging civil societies in the Middle East as far as possible.

The exodus of Christians from the Muslim world is the best indicator for the ruthlessness and intolerance of extremists. Christians have been driven out of Iraq. And when they arrived in Germany as refugees, they had to listen to arguments from the Left that demanded a proportional share of asylum seekers from other persecuted minorities. Yet, Egypt is a special case in relation to its Christian population.

Coptic Christians constitute around 10 percent of the Egyptian population. Exact numbers are not published, for fear or persecution. The Christian minority is relatively large and relatively affluent, and thus becoming a prime target for discrimination and attacks. If the cowardly Islamists succeed in driving Christians out of Egypt, the consequences will be felt around the world. The exodus of Egyptian Christians would mark the triumph of radical political Islam. The stakes are higher in Egypt than in the rest of the Arab world, and Islamists are well aware of that fact.

Christians have had to endure a long history of discrimination in Egypt. Under Mubarak, they were persecuted. They have long been exposed to religious violence. In the West, we tend to forget that religion plays a central role in many Middle Eastern societies. We have secularized our ethics, Islam has not. Religion is regarded as unquestioned truth. It is the driving force behind the construction of identity and the demarcation from the rest of the world: against Americans, against Jews, against the West.

The only way to combat that unfortunate reality is to invest in education (and take education away from Quran schools). The Middle East is reliving a central development of European history: More education leads to less religiosity. In Europe, Christianity was able to adapt its complex theology and philosophy to modernity before sliding into oblivion. Today, moderate Islamic scholars and Muslim liberals are confronted with the same task. Unless they can modernize Islam, atheism is the only option for a country like Egypt. I am convinced that Allah prefers non-believers to those who murder in his name. :rofl:

Alexander Goerlach: Is Atheism the Solution to Religious Persecution in Egypt?
 
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Debates on theology are banned in Def.pk , repeated threads will attract a ban.

Mods - shut it down.
 
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Debates on theology are banned in Def.pk , repeated threads will attract a ban.

Mods - shut it down.

You actually read that article & decided that it was a normal theological discussion?
 
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Atheism is a solution to nothing ,

cannot but pity the man who recognizes nothing godlike in his own nature.

WILLIAM E. CHANNING

and the best one is :-Atheism is a disease of the mind caused by eating underdone philosophy.

AUSTIN O'MALLEY

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You actually read that article & decided that it was a normal theological discussion?
There is nothing theological about atheism .
 
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It's not about what you believe in
"Separation of Churches and State"?
 
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Atheism is a solution to nothing ,

cannot but pity the man who recognizes nothing godlike in his own nature.

WILLIAM E. CHANNING

and the best one is :-Atheism is a disease of the mind caused by eating underdone philosophy.

AUSTIN O'MALLEY

---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 PM ----------


There is nothing theological about atheism .

Tell that to the three oldest religions of India; Buddhism & Jainism are atheistic & the main thrust of Hindu philosophy has a large atheistic streak.
 
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Tell that to the three oldest religions of India; Buddhism & Jainism are atheistic & the main thrust of Hindu philosophy has a large atheistic streak.
Atheists are convinced there is no God, so no atheism is no solution to the Egyptian problem.
Seperation of state and religion is. Will need to enforce that seperation of course.
 
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World would be a better place without religion. There is no second thought about it.
 
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i dont know how atheism is going to fix this problem. Egypt just had a revolution so its going to take sometime before it becomes stable again
 
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Consider the question from the perspective of 6,000 years of Egyptian history. There are many episodes of murderous religious intolerance, both before and after the Muslim Conquest. If atheism is imposed on the Egyptian people some will quietly reject it while others will try to forcibly impose atheism on others. I'd expect huge book-burnings of Korans and Bibles.

I doubt, however, that that useful fake, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, would be included in the book-burn as it is the holy book of Jew-haters and most tyrants like to keep that religion alive, no matter what their professed atheistic beliefs may be.
 
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Christians are not being killed in Egypt because of religion, its something that rarely happens, and when/if it happens, it is not something organized or on a large scale...... On the other hand, christians are really being harassed and discriminated against especially by the "Salafis", and their "Sheiks". Salafis are minorities in Egypt, but they are very loud and they get a lot of money and support we all know by who. But the average Egyptians have no problems with eachother.

Now, Atheism is not the soultion to anything, and it impossible that Atheism can find its way in Egypt, either thru Christians or Muslims. The soultion is very easy, applying the law and enforcing it on everybody equally.
 
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there still is some atheists out there that thinks the world will be peacefull if we abandon all religion ... !?!?!?!
 
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