Is America going to put boots on the ground in Mexico?

[mike2000 is back]

CJNG's men primarily comprise of former Mexican Special Forces operatives many of them who were trained by the US itself. Check out their weaponry and gear which isn't surprising given the money they make.

Yeah i once(don't think i will take the risk again) went on holidays there in 2016, there are areas they warned us not to venture into. The country to me seems to be a semi failed state, since there are regions were the government machinery is barely existent and is run more by the Cartels. These Cartels are so powerful/influential and wealthy that they have many government/governors/state authorities/police(that's even more widespread/even the military on their payroll. In fact Mexico has even had presidents who were funded and backed by the Cartels. In short the country itself is run by the cartels in some ways indirectly. Since we can be sure that there is almost no Mexican public official who can say he hasn't had any links/benefited from some some of support/ties/relationship with the cartels in some way or another. So, i don't see how this issue can be resolved anytime soon. It has become part of the country itself and is actually one of the country's biggest industry if it could be officially documented and legalised. lol

 

[Zapper]

Man these guy's have armoured pick ups even FC and army don't have these.

Mexican cartels make billions of dollars every year and they'd only have to arm a few hundred men. Most of those pickups are Ford F-150s ($60k + mods) locally modified which can stop an AK round or at best a sniper shot...they're not effective against IEDs or RPGs which your FC or our military faces. What we need are actual APCs and MRAPs each costing a few million...not to mention, we'd have to equip tens of thousands of men

Secondly, these armored cartel units are extremely crucial to take out rival cartel gangs, civilians and govt officials which is why they're more than willing to spend money on equipping em while our govts primarily focus on big ticket items disregarding the safety and effectiveness of a foot soldier

Yeah i once(don't think i will take the risk again) went on holidays there in 2016, there are areas they warned us not to venture into. The country to me seems to be a semi failed state, since there are regions were the government machinery is barely existent and is run more by the Cartels. These Cartels are so powerful/influential and wealthy that they have many government/governors/state authorities/police(that's even more widespread/even the military on their payroll. In fact Mexico has even had presidents who were funded and backed by the Cartels. In short the country itself is run by the cartels in some ways indirectly. Since we can be sure that there is almost no Mexican public official who can say he hasn't had any links/benefited from some some of support/ties/relationship with the cartels in some way or another. So, i don't see how this issue can be resolved anytime soon. It has become part of the country itself and is actually one of the country's biggest industry if it could be officially documented and legalised. lol

US would want the violence and cartel wars in Mexico to continue since they'd make a ton of money in arms sales...also, boots on the ground isn't a realistic option since Mexico is one of the major economies with a GDP of $1.2 trillion and 130mn in population. If something goes wrong, US will not be able to deal with the refugee crisis

 

[KaiserX]

The US deep state benefits immensely geopolitically and economically with a destabilized mexico. Think about it almost half of the southern/Western US was taken from Mexico in wars throughout the 1800s. Many Mexicans have not forgotten that, and wish to one day take back all of their lands. A large hispanic population in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California only add fuel to the fire because they can form a destabalizing 3rd front for Mexico.

Geopolitically the US is able to dominate south central america. With a weak mexico that is economically and politically reliant on the US. Most of Mexicos trade is done with the US/Canada, yet the US never treats Mexico as an equal partner in a way Canada which is a member of nato is treated.

Economically the deep state makes billions annually from the drug trade. Most of the drugs in the US come through Mexico. The deep state turns a blind eye because it can keep control over a drug induced domestic population, while providing funds to criminal militias which will continue to destablize mexico causing mexico to go back to the US for more support.

Its a never ending loop.

 

[Azadkashmir]

A destabilizing Mexico is a real threat to America.

A new video (released a few hours ago) by Vice, with our very own Pakistani-Canadian Brother Suroosh Alvi risking his life to get the story. Be careful to those that live in the American Southwest, but more and more all of America. This is something the diaspora in America should be aware of if they don’t know of it already.

for the video check the Vice channel on YouTube.

Parallel could be drawn between Drug/warlord militias in Afghanistan and Mexico. Economic opportunities and ending corruption seems to be a universally accept ways to solve the problem, but hard for the systems to implement. Legalizing drugs doesn’t seem to be the answer.

cartels created n work for cia, but once they go big then they must go. like escobar.

 

[313ghazi]

The USA has no interest in stopping the cartels. They sell them loads of weapons and have used them in the past to fund off the books activities.

Troops on the ground won't work. What would work is shifting American manufacturing from China to Mexico.

Flood Mexico with jobs, suddenly there is much less need to work for a cartel.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

A destabilizing Mexico is a real threat to America.

A new video (released a few hours ago) by Vice, with our very own Pakistani-Canadian Brother Suroosh Alvi risking his life to get the story.

I see videos on Vice but from 2016. Which one is it?

 

[FuturePAF]

I see videos on Vice but from 2016. Which one is it?

There was a new one re-released two days ago, but I’ve lost the link. All the videos basically tell the same story. Also, this is something which should be of particular concern to those traveling through Mexico in general and especially for those crossing between Mexico and the US.

My Latino friends who go to Mexico regularly tell me if you don’t look Latino you should be more careful and only stick to the tourist areas.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

There was a new one re-released two days ago, but I’ve lost the link. All the videos basically tell the same story. Also, this is something which should be of particular concern to those traveling through Mexico in general and especially for those crossing between Mexico and the US.

My Latino friends who go to Mexico regularly tell me if you don’t look Latino you should be more careful and only stick to the tourist areas.

It's been bad for a LONG time.
15 years ago these Mexican friends of mine said it was too dangerous to even take a taxi in major cities as even if you are Mexican you have a good chance of disappearing/robbed. The drivers just ping their accomplices to stop the car and rob or drag you away. Mexico City and Monterrey especially.

 

[vishwambhar]

California used to be a part of Mexico once upon a time but US militarily snatched it away from Mexico..... Look at the California under US today.....

Mexico is a very unsafe and dangerous country to visit because majority of population is criminal mentality..... I don't know why.... Poverty cannot be a reason as there are so many countries even poor than Mexico yet crime ratio is lower....

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

California used to be a part of Mexico once upon a time but US militarily snatched it away from Mexico..... Look at the California under US today.....

Mexico is a very unsafe and dangerous country to visit because majority of population is criminal mentality..... I don't know why.... Poverty cannot be a reason as there are so many countries even poor than Mexico yet crime ratio is lower....

Yes, owned by Mexico until 1848...and keep in mind all the native Americans killed in that area between 1492 and 1848 were retroactively blamed on the US.

Of course Mexico is known for being a quiet, safe, peaceful society ....so I'm sure they did nothing to them during those 350 years...

 

[vishwambhar]

Yes, owned by Mexico until 1848...and keep in mind all the native Americans killed in that area between 1492 and 1848 were retroactively blamed on the US.

Even today criminal Mexicans staying near border areas of USA it's very common for them to infiltrate in US, kill, rape US citizens staying near border loot their valuables and come back to Mexico....

 

[52051]

Well, any armed force who set on boots in Mexico is a positive thing

 

[Oldman1]

The US deep state benefits immensely geopolitically and economically with a destabilized mexico. Think about it almost half of the southern/Western US was taken from Mexico in wars throughout the 1800s. Many Mexicans have not forgotten that, and wish to one day take back all of their lands. A large hispanic population in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California only add fuel to the fire because they can form a destabalizing 3rd front for Mexico.

Geopolitically the US is able to dominate south central america. With a weak mexico that is economically and politically reliant on the US. Most of Mexicos trade is done with the US/Canada, yet the US never treats Mexico as an equal partner in a way Canada which is a member of nato is treated.

Economically the deep state makes billions annually from the drug trade. Most of the drugs in the US come through Mexico. The deep state turns a blind eye because it can keep control over a drug induced domestic population, while providing funds to criminal militias which will continue to destablize mexico causing mexico to go back to the US for more support.

Its a never ending loop.

No we don't want a destabilized Mexico because it would in fact cause more refugees which means more Mexicans in the U.S. eh? And another thing is that Mexican-Americans or recent arrivals of Mexicans are not interested in trying to retake parts of territories for Mexico because its equivalent to saying Native Americans want to retake those lands when the Spaniards came over before Mexico existed and there is hardly any support for such retaking the lands with a mix of millions of people. And illegal immigrants escaping from their own countries don't want to bring just problems to the land of opportunity.

 

[KaiserX]

No we don't want a destabilized Mexico because it would in fact cause more refugees which means more Mexicans in the U.S. eh? And another thing is that Mexican-Americans or recent arrivals of Mexicans are not interested in trying to retake parts of territories for Mexico because its equivalent to saying Native Americans want to retake those lands when the Spaniards came over before Mexico existed and there is hardly any support for such retaking the lands with a mix of millions of people. And illegal immigrants escaping from their own countries don't want to bring just problems to the land of opportunity.

Funny and retarded post

US has been destabalizing mexico since the early 1800's with its settler colonial projects throughout the south & west which lead to the battle of alamao and taking almost half of mexicos land

Secondly you talk about refugees? there are almost 20 million illegal immigrants in the US most of which came from the southern border i mean how many more refugees would you want? thats more than 4x syrias total population.... also a large refugee population actually favors businesses because it provides cheaper labor cost which means larger profits. Something which the US has benefitted from since the early 1900s.

Do you know which state NEW mexico is named after? do you know where the name Texas or California came from? They are all mexican names given to their provinces which were taken by the US.

Any people who have had historical injustices done against them would hold a grudge... whether mexican, palestinian or kashmirir. How many mexican immigrants have you even had this discussion with?

Im a US citizen, love my country, yet I am not ignorant to reality and willing to talk to opposing viewpoints. Maybe you should do the same and actually read some history or talk to other people...

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Who is Señor penchod??