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India's actions against Arab economy will depend on Arab actions against India. So far, Arabs have not done anything, so there is no question of India doing anything either.Waiting for the day that how India will damage Arab economy and we will see the results as well. Rest about that fear, we are still on map since 1947 whereas India has been claiming the breakfasts in Lahore and many times about Pakistan off the map.
The front door was open, so I let myself in and ate your food.
India's actions against Arab economy will depend on Arab actions against India. So far, Arabs have not done anything, so there is no question of India doing anything either.
Lastly, I don't know why you bring Pakistan in. As a matter of fact the Pakistan that existed in 1947 does not exist now. So, no, you are not there on the map like you were.
Hypothetical scenario - if tomorrow because of India's actions, Pakistan gets split again and only the area of Punjab remains called 'Pakistan', will you still claim that India has not been able to do anything because 'Pakistan' exists?
Because similarly your map of Pakistan has radically changed since 1947.
I just said there are 3 countries in the world who can act against India economically without absolutely any fear of economic reprisals from us. Those are US, Russia, China
I knew you would say that.
the kashmir resistance which has turned into terrorism ??remember the resistance of Kashmir as well as other rising elements within India itself which clearly indicates that who's map is going to change next.
what he is not fantasy but reality ......maybe in your country where advertisment works for fantasyKeep saying that but tell you what no country is paying attention to such claim but a fantasy well advertised by GOI for her people otherwise that economy would have been more favored if people are living with every right they deserved though the recent protests of Jaat alone tells a lot. .
I knew you would say that.
Nobody trusts US.
I'm supposed to be going to sleep not you.
the kashmir resistance which has turned into terrorism ??
Describe 'other rising elements within India itself '??
what jaat protest tells you a lot ???
Great move . we should do this again on Indian shores with the newest IRIN naval ships .
Note to pakistani members : bros this is not your business . we didn't cry when you sent your troops to wahhabistan and we expect the same thing in return .
No one will use Iranian soil or Iranian bullets to fight pakistan . if anything we'll be there when you need us .
but don't mix things up . India was our ally ,is our ally and will remain our ally for the time to come .
our relations is nothing new ,its based on thousands of years of history .
The news is good, a strong maritime cooperation between India & Iran is imperative to provide security in the Gulf region against any country's misadventures there, such moves will also inspire greater confidence to trade & invest in the Chahbar port, the INSTC trade corridor, and give better hope to Afghanistan & Central Asia's access to the sea (via Zaranj-Delaram).
I hope to see the economic relations between Indo-Persian cultures (that includes the offshoots like Pakistan) to be taken to the next level, but obviously Pakistan could be a thorn in the flesh. Being heavily dependent on Saudi funding for survival, infrastructure and political/religious leadership, Pakistan will be slaving under the GCC for a long time to come. And in the process they will be propping up obstacles to the relationship in any way their masters in Arabia see fit.
That's why the maritime relationship becomes all the more important to maintain stability. These naval exercises are a first step toward that goal.
That said, the Pakistani members on the thread making statements like "these events will spell bye-bye to India-Arab relations" need to understand that GCC is balancing on a precarious cliff. With the oncoming collapse of oil, the economies of most (if not all) GCC states, especially KSA, are on a downturn and presently staring at a bleak future.
In order to come out of this impetus, they need to diversify their economy at a very fast rate (something that should've been done 10 years ago). In such a situation, they are not in position to leverage anything against anyone outside of the Saudi-led coalition of GCC and few other countries like Pakistan & Djibouti.
As such, any cooperation they get from countries like India, they will take with open arms and any favors we ask in return, they will give with no questions asked. That's why you see them offering huge amounts for investment in the sectors we point at...the offer to store their oil and take 2/3rd for free, and other contracts like launching their Mars mission in 2020 onboard our PSLV. There are other space-related plans on the table as well, including remote-sensing & civilian navigation.
We need to expand our clientele and for that we need contracts, so it is actually we who are leveraging the GCC. And we know how to maintain proper relations with Iran & Israel in the meantime. Especially Iran now because after lifting of sanctions they are more open to trade and we can build relationships with lesser restrictions than before.
As of Pakistan, it's not in a position to dictate terms to either Iran or Saudi. So whatever happens between India-Iran or India-Arabs, all that Pakistan can do by itself is sit by and watch on.
++ Some pictures to sign off ++
^^ Last pic from Iran's Navy Day events
P.S.
About US relationship,
Honestly, it are the Saudis who blew up the WTC, and yet if the Americans want to suck up to them, then obviously there's something very wrong with their outlook on the M-E region. However that's they're problem and I'm not going to concern myself with that any further.
As of US-India theatre...any form of a deep strategic relationship is unlikely for as long as US keeps supporting the Pakistani Taliban's stance on Afghanistan. I frankly don't see how they expect to destroy the problem by making friends with it? But hey, making friends with the Mujahideen has been one of the US's most important foreign policy decisions in history and that's unlikely to change. But then again, who said they actually want to solve the problem? Nah. That's most likely up to India, Iran, Russia and the Afghan leadership to deal with. The vacuum left by US in Afghanistan is being slowly filled up by these countries and by 2020 we can see a complete replacement of the US role.
@Abingdonboy @randomradio @PARIKRAMA @MilSpec @Omega007
In the rivalry against China the west has turned a blind eye, otherwise it is India which is the biggest terrorist on the planet. What more evidence is required when the hands of a PM (Modi) are tainted with the blood of innocent Muslims of Gujrat and it is not too long ago that he was declined a visa to visit US on this charge.
Hundreds and thousands of Kashmiri has been killed in an attempt to deny them their right of freedom.
Bal Thakura and RSS are fundamentalists Hindu organization and they don't let any opportunity go to attack other religions.
So much so matter as small as Cow beef has been turned into terrorizing Muslims.
Out side:
Except for Hasina Wajid regime in Bangladesh, India doesn't have good relationship with any other neighboring country.
India, is involved in terrorism in FATA and Baluchistan and proofs have been turned into India...
India is indeed a terrorist country, yes it is.
Thanks Mate, Me too would love to see this relation flourish into full potential just like how it was in the ancient times.The news is good, a strong maritime cooperation between India & Iran is imperative to provide security in the Gulf region against any country's misadventures there, such moves will also inspire greater confidence to trade & invest in the Chahbar port, the INSTC trade corridor, and give better hope to Afghanistan & Central Asia's access to the sea (via Zaranj-Delaram).
I hope to see the economic relations between Indo-Persian cultures (that includes the offshoots like Pakistan) to be taken to the next level, but obviously Pakistan could be a thorn in the flesh. Being heavily dependent on Saudi funding for survival, infrastructure and political/religious leadership, Pakistan will be slaving under the GCC for a long time to come. And in the process they will be propping up obstacles to the relationship in any way their masters in Arabia see fit.
That's why the maritime relationship becomes all the more important to maintain stability. These naval exercises are a first step toward that goal.
That said, the Pakistani members on the thread making statements like "these events will spell bye-bye to India-Arab relations" need to understand that GCC is balancing on a precarious cliff. With the oncoming collapse of oil, the economies of most (if not all) GCC states, especially KSA, are on a downturn and presently staring at a bleak future.
In order to come out of this impetus, they need to diversify their economy at a very fast rate (something that should've been done 10 years ago). In such a situation, they are not in position to leverage anything against anyone outside of the Saudi-led coalition of GCC and few other countries like Pakistan & Djibouti.
As such, any cooperation they get from countries like India, they will take with open arms and any favors we ask in return, they will give with no questions asked. That's why you see them offering huge amounts for investment in the sectors we point at...the offer to store their oil and take 2/3rd for free, and other contracts like launching their Mars mission in 2020 onboard our PSLV. There are other space-related plans on the table as well, including remote-sensing & civilian navigation.
We need to expand our clientele and for that we need contracts, so it is actually we who are leveraging the GCC. And we know how to maintain proper relations with Iran & Israel in the meantime. Especially Iran now because after lifting of sanctions they are more open to trade and we can build relationships with lesser restrictions than before.
As of Pakistan, it's not in a position to dictate terms to either Iran or Saudi. So whatever happens between India-Iran or India-Arabs, all that Pakistan can do by itself is sit by and watch on.
++ Some pictures to sign off ++
^^ Last pic from Iran's Navy Day events
P.S.
About US relationship,
Honestly, it are the Saudis who blew up the WTC, and yet if the Americans want to suck up to them, then obviously there's something very wrong with their outlook on the M-E region. However that's they're problem and I'm not going to concern myself with that any further.
As of US-India theatre...any form of a deep strategic relationship is unlikely for as long as US keeps supporting the Pakistani Taliban's stance on Afghanistan. I frankly don't see how they expect to destroy the problem by making friends with it? But hey, making friends with the Mujahideen has been one of the US's most important foreign policy decisions in history and that's unlikely to change. But then again, who said they actually want to solve the problem? Nah. That's most likely up to India, Iran, Russia and the Afghan leadership to deal with. The vacuum left by US in Afghanistan is being slowly filled up by these countries and by 2020 we can see a complete replacement of the US role.
@Abingdonboy @randomradio @PARIKRAMA @MilSpec @Omega007