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JF-17 Block III i guesswhat exactly is J-17
to be fair when they made that proposal , J10-A was the latest model of J-10
china as of 2021 owed around 20 bilion dollar that because of banking sanction they refused to give iraN
Iran has still billions worth of Boeing and Airbus airliners that it bought in 2016, which only a bunch of them have been delivered, the rest froze because of reapplication of sanctions.
Russians are slow very slow... and Iran is not clever in its agreements and contracts.
Whoever thinks Iran can buy some JF-17/J-10C/J-16 or whatever like that is highly delusive and underestimate the power of the US economy wise
The two needs to merge together.Either
1- Stick with Russia as they are in the same situation of Iran sanction wise and doesn't care of US pressure
2- Work on the F-5 Kowsar endless project and rely on drones as air force support
3- Do both
Either
1- Stick with Russia as they are in the same situation of Iran sanction wise and doesn't care of US pressure
2- Work on the F-5 Kowsar endless project and rely on drones as air force support
3- Do both
the drama was mute even at the start , Russia need all its su-35 for the war , they don't have any to spare . and in their infinite wisdom , they relied on western and east asian parts for building those airplane , now they had problem sourcing them and it take time to replace them with local parts
The drama continues…
those f-5 optimization can be as good as f-16 depends on how yo u optimize them. F-20 lost to F-16 only because of political decision, otherwise there was nothing in f-16 that could not put inside in f-20, and in other metrics it was superiorIran must do both. I don t think F-5 optimized are useless. They can be good in great numbers to protect or chase attackers in national air space. But a country as Iran must think Big, when you think little you are weak, they need to be on the wave of technological providers and make projects in the state of the art. Being more honestly, Iran must think Big.
When Iran claims that persian gulf is persian gulf, it must not only based in historic reasons, it must be based in military power also.This what others obey,always.
Ties with russia must be based in mutual benefits, if Iran doesn t win important things, to me are useless. Iran must not have useless agreement with Russia as Syria or other countries have. Iran is a country that can give things, and has it s neeeds. I insist, whatever russians says, they will have war for years to come, its better for them to trust iranians and honours contrats, they don t have any other reliable country out of there, that not cares for US sanctions.
You need a Russian engine to get to the level of F20. RD 33 would be perfect for this.those f-5 optimization can be as good as f-16 depends on how yo u optimize them. F-20 lost to F-16 only because of political decision, otherwise there was nothing in f-16 that could not put inside in f-20, and in other metrics it was superior
We are waiting for Afghanistan jet engine production to catch up with us..after all it is all about Islamic unity BS..meanwhile Iran making sure all Palestinians have a personal rocket launchers at home..who needs RD33..lolYou need a Russian engine to get to the level of F20. RD 33 would be perfect for this.
I do not understand why Iran isn't doing this.
It amuses me that people still take you seriously after your anti-Iran rhetoric and rants. Why Torks are so obsessed with the Iranian threads here I have no idea, no Iranians care to spam the Torkish threads as much as you and your fellow Torkish trolls do here.You need a Russian engine to get to the level of F20. RD 33 would be perfect for this.
I do not understand why Iran isn't doing this.
It amuses me that people still take you seriously after your anti-Iran rhetoric and rants. Why Torks are so obsessed with the Iranian threads here I have no idea, no Iranians care to spam the Torkish threads as much as you and your fellow Torkish trolls do here.
It amuses me how you say this and proceed to take me seriouslyIt amuses me that people still take you seriously after your anti-Iran rhetoric and rants. Why Torks are so obsessed with the Iranian threads here I have no idea, no Iranians care to spam the Torkish threads as much as you and your fellow Torkish trolls do here.
If the aircraft development has to wait for the engine development to catch up, Iran will lose precious years.Alas, Iran already has a program to develop increasingly larger turbofan engines for military use and this is in progress. India with its massive budget, superior industrial base and human capital and no sanctions sunk billions into their domestic turbofan Kaveri program for almost 40 years (from 1986) and only after substantial French help did they make any progress (still very limited progress). Owj and Jahesh are great milestones and will continue to be built upon. Iranian funds are limited and allocated according to our needs as defined by our unique national security dynamics - i.e. mostly to mass production of increasingly potent and advanced ballistic missiles and air defence.
If TAI said "we'll wait for the Turkish engine" and sat waiting holding onto their dicks we would never have TFX. But TFX will fly this year and Turkish engine will come out 5 years later.
Who said "help"? money talks my brother.So stop repeating the same claims that Iran is “pig headed” and not accepting foreign help. There is no foreign help.