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Finally some actual good news.
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Finally some actual good news.
not good news at allFinally some actual good news.
hope one part of it remain rumor as it was the case for such news in last 20 years.
Why not?! Why is it when there is some good news for Iran, Iransetiz people like you crawl out of the wood work to rain on the parade. Explain yourself, Iransetiz!not good news at all
Think before typing! Realistically, is Iran likely to get spare parts or new upgrades on its F-14s from US or is it likely get that for potential Su-35 with Russia? Is there an alternative other than bending over and becoming a vassal to US...again?not good news at all
hope one part of it remain rumor as it was the case for such news in last 20 years.
poutdated airplane that don't even have AESA radar and is as bad as F-14 on maintenance cost.
there is hope it come from unofficial unnamed source , AKA fanboys.
iransetiz are people who want to repeat the mistake of the past , the people who in every step belittle our achievement and think because the product is foreign made its better than what we can make ourselves. go and instead of dreaming of wasting our limited resource on outdated equipment which are fossils of an bygone era look at our capabilities. the airplane light all modern radars , have no modern radar, have no useful datalink , and only excel in metrics that don't matter anymore.Why not?! Why is it when there is some good news for Iran, Iransetiz people like you crawl out of the wood work to rain on the parade. Explain yourself, Iransetiz!
think realistically , do Iran need spare for its F-14.Think before typing! Realistically, is Iran likely to get spare parts or new upgrades on its F-14s from US or is it likely get that for potential Su-35 with Russia? Is there an alternative other than bending over and becoming a vassal to US...again?
You cant be this illogical.
Oh the waffle machine has unleashed his ramblings. Here we go:iransetiz are people who want to repeat the mistake of the past , the people who in every step belittle our achievement and think because the product is foreign made its better than what we can make ourselves. go and instead of dreaming of wasting our limited resource on outdated equipment which are fossils of an bygone era look at our capabilities. the airplane light all modern radars , have no modern radar, have no useful datalink , and only excel in metrics that don't matter anymore.
by the way that alone show who is iran setiz, people can decide me or the ones that become glad with such news
بی ادب .Oh the waffle machine has unleashed his ramblings. Here we go:
Use your brain! How can Iran reinvent the wheel when there is an ally who is happy to trade with us what we want? I suppose, to use your maghz pook logic, NATO is also weak because they rely on US weapon?! Yes the Su-35 is a million times better than what we can produce in the next 50-100 years. So what do you propose we do, sit and do nothing thus being weak in the face of our western enemy (you'd like that, wouldn't you, gharbzadeye Iransetiz)?
OR
Should we at least have a few modern, upgradable, aircraft to keep out airforce in some sort of shape until we can make out own?
You complain about us relying on foreign weapons, then you bring J10 and F16 as an example. So not only are you Iransetiz, you're also a hypocrite who contradicts himself. Maybe China and US dont want to sell to us for obvious reasons, then what choice do we have other than Russian?
Only one Su35 got shot down in Ukraine and Russia has air superiority, what's your point? Do you have realtime data of clashes between Su35 vs F16 vs j10 vs grippen...or did you pull that out of your arse? Your point is moot when all we can purchase is one of those.
In conclusion, Su-35 is the best we can buy now and it's disgraceful that gharbzade Iran setiz like you demand us to purchase western planes when we are under sanctions. This is how ahmagh you are!
To ham ahmaghiyate nanato neshoon dadee be tamame memberhaye een site har vaghti ye pasokhi midee. Khak too saret.بی ادب .
خوب که توانستی تربیت خانوادگی خودت را به خوبی نشان بدی.
این شما وطن فروش ها هستید که همیشه جلوی توانایی های جوانهای کشور را گرفتید چون عاشق مارکهای غربی و شرقی هستید . تو حتی فرق تواناییهای رادار این پرنده ها را نمیدونی ولی میایی نظر میدی. در ضمن اگر به خودت زحمت میدادی و چند صفحه قبل را میخوندی میدیدی که ما در مورد توانایی این هواپیما حتی در برابر کوثر صحیت کردیم
البته میدونم برای یک وطن فروش تنها این مهم هست که بشنوه بجای یک تولید ملی از جنسهای 30 سال قبل شرقی و غربی استفاده شده.
آخر سر در مورد بحث غرب زده بودن. من به راحتی ده ها پست از تو میتونم بیارم که نشان میده چقدر از خرید اجناس از دور خارج شده روسی اظهار خوشحالی میکنی . تو اگر مردی یک پست بیار که من تبلیغ برای خرید یک جنس غربی بیار
در ضمن اگر روسیه دوست ما بود به تعهداتش عمل میکرد .
Note, this can be read differently (albeit unlikely): Iranians are training Russians on Su 35 integration with Iranian drones...which if true is amazing too.Finally some actual good news.
But how realistic are such „news“? IMO they are not …
After Pelosi´s visit TW, everything is possible.
The better armed Iran, the more resources US must employ to deal with. And nowadays J10C is not the top nocht fighter of China fighters, it is not J16 or J20. It is still a bit behind F15QA and F2000 of RSAF, at least cinematically.
After Pelosi´s visit TW, everything is possible.
The better armed Iran, the more resources US must employ to deal with. And nowadays J10C is not the top nocht fighter of China fighters, it is not J16 or J20. It is still a bit behind F15QA and F2000 of RSAF, at least cinematically.
when you brought me a fighter which is more agile than , a modern missile i believe you are right . its the electronic that count , not how maneuverable is your airplaneAccording to opponents of a Su-35 deal (minor in numbers) on here, kinetic energy counts for peanuts in modern air warfare.
in fact kowsar can do things that Su-35 can't for example it has data-link .To ham ahmaghiyate nanato neshoon dadee be tamame memberhaye een site har vaghti ye pasokhi midee. Khak too saret.
Beharhal, to ye gharbzadaye vatan foroosh fekr mikoni be gharb koon dadan yejoorayee ma ba esteghlal mishim? To koja boodi in 60 saal e akheer? Mardom e Iran system e Liberal e gharbiro nemikhan...fagahad ye edeye kami gharbzadehaye kesafat mesle khaar ar ar mikonan.
In nazare faghad to hast ke Su-35 mesle Kowsar e, ke man arzesh e pokham roosh nemizaram. Ba's inja darbaraye tavanehaye Su-35 vs xyz havapeyma nist...man migam tanha rahi ke chandta havapaymaye jangi betoonim begirim Su-35 hast, past yani sobat e tavanayee nesbat be jangandehaye dige bedard e ammat mikhore.
Rasti, man harja delam mikhad nazar midam va to hagh nadaree begee koja mitoonam pasokh bedan. Ya javab midee ya na.
To hameen alan daree mesale F-16 o Grippen miyaree...yani daree migee yejoorayee ma bayad ba gharb nazdeektar besheem ke inaro begirim. Chon man bayeed midoonam to enghadr tork bashee ke entezar dashete bashee Iran 50-100 saal vayse ke che ye rooz shayad ye fighter jet e mashdi beterekoone...ta oon moghe Iran shode Arabestan. Chareye ma che hast? Kheyli bihaali, dadash.
when you brought me a fighter which is more agile than , a modern missile i believe you are right . its the electronic that count , not how maneuverable is your airplane