drmeson
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They are retaining it due to cost and it’s Brazil. Who are they going to be fighting exactly that they need expensive top of the line fighters? Not every country can splurge on F-35’s.
No, they are retaining it because it's simple to operate, and maintain platform that can be upgraded easily. Cost is one factor but not the only one. Even if we just consider cost as the sole factor it's a huge one for IRIAF itself.
You have some mental obsession with F-35 ... no country in Iranian surroundings operates F-35 and Israeli Adir cant reach Iran so your whole fixation on F-35 is impractical here.
Yes, I am cancelling it because people like you keep trying to make a 1960’s aircraft be something it’s not. Not because it doesn’t have value within Iran’s airforce....it does.
BS post. Except for its aerodynamic shape, nothing in Kowsar resembles F-5E/F. Its radar+ avionics package, engines, combat suite hell even the wheels are just different, and whatever resembles F-5 has been built new. People like you do not understand the fact that upgradation means everything in the field of aviation. F-16 also flew in 1976, it's a 46 years old aerodynamic design. By your logic, we should start calling F-16 Blk 60 an old plane because F-16 is 46 years? even the staunchest enemies of the Iranian government like BT accept the fact that Kowsar is a 100 % different plane with a 4.0 Generation suite. Iran needs it more than it needs its F-7N, Mirages, and current F-5 fleet. I would trust the decision-makers more than I trust anyone on the internet.
If it were that easy every country in the world would just fight their adversaries with their Yak-130’s and Advanced trainers. Life doesn’t work that way.
Your logic is wrong. Every country actually does operate light combat fighters in high numbers to complement their main machines. Taiwan has FCK-1 which is morphing into AIDC T-5, Iraq is getting FC-1 and T-50 not just F-16 Block 52, Thai are getting F-5T, India is replacing its 60 years old MIGs, not with SU-30 but with a 4.0 generation LCA, Pakistan has its FC-1 Blk II/II despite having a large fleet of F-16 an option to purchase more J-10C ... the list goes on. IRIAF will purchase probably Sukhois or J-10C too but they will replace F-4E/D, Su-24MK not Kowsars or whatever they will name the next generation of it.
F-5 is an F-5 aerodynamically and kinetically. An F-35 has radar of 250+ KM and even Nebo isn’t detecting it till maybe 75KM more likely 50KM in a stealth loadout.
F-5aerodynamics are not bad even against legendary 4+ generation fighers.
F-5E dogfighting trials at Nellis AFB in 1977, called ACEVAL/AIMVAL, "For the first three weeks of the test, the F-14s and F-15s were hopelessly outclassed and demoralized against F-5E carrying Aim-9L".
Again nobody Iran might face in air combat is operating F-35 except US.
The only way F-5 survives is hanging in a air defense zone and flying low to avoid radars. It may get lucky. If it flies in a formation of Mig and F-14, then it will be used as bait to draw out the enemy in the area.
wrong logic. Kowsar is not F-5E/F it has far better radar and avionics. Just on itself, a fully operationalized one will see any incoming threat from 90-95 KM and might shoot BVR missiles at the incoming attacker while from how far away any other 4-4+ generation fighter like F-16 or Mirage-2000 sees Kowsar depends upon their radars. Detecting RCS of 1-2 m^2 is not easy.
In real battle scenarios like IRIAF operations during the 2020 war in North west. Kowsars will fly with Fakour armed F-14AM and MIGs (with their R-27E) using some datalink operated from Khatam Al Anbiya network, taking inputs from Sepeher, Qader, Nazir, Asr like G-WACS and SIGNIT behind them. Your idea of one fighter vs one fighter is not realistic at all.
It’s happening in Ukraine right now. So again, you are incorrect.
Incomparable. Put Iran in place of Ukraine, IRGC would destroy the bases from where Russian fighters are coming in so the same fighters would have to use drop tanks to reach Ukrainian/Iranian skies with larger drag, enhanced RCS for LORADS + SHORADS to pick who would fire on them to disrupt the invader flight. It's a totally different scenario from Ukraine. Airforces operate in tandem with ground forces plans not alone. IRIAF being the weakest of Artesh forces will gets its job turn easy by IRGC aerospace command.
Hi guys;
Making a bit of OSINT in Google maps, and watching closely the Isfahan AB I found something interesting;
1.- See at least 4 F14s are out of the armored shelters. May be indicative about a certain (good in my oppinion) level of readiness.
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2.- What are those small VLJ aircraft?. Those seems to be discarded or storaged. HESA Dorna?.
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QRA at TAB-8.
Is that usual guys ?