TheImmortal
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explain how you build a helicopter without an engine.
Can you please elaborate why not..is it size, or power or weight...I am very curious to know.Nope.
Russia, China
Can you please elaborate why not..is it size, or power or weight...I am very curious to know.
If the Turks under zero sanctions are struggling to find an engine for their attack helicopter what makes you think Russia and China are gonna help Iran?
Right now the focus is on jet engines, micro jet engines (for UAVs and cruise missiles).
Tanks and Helicopters have zero priority. Especially all the Cobras Iran has already. Helicopters won’t survive in a war with US.
It’s that Iran cannot mass produce aeronautical engines at this point in time. Simple as that.
How many Owj engines have been made? How many Kowsar are flying? What happened to National helicopter project? Why was Iranian artesh checking out Russian choppers in Russia recently?
If Iran really could mass produce a helicopter engine or jet engine you would see them making them like hot cakes one after another. Instead efforts have been modernizing fighter Jets and modernizing helicopters.
Well Turks aren't being sanctioned like Iran however Germany is refusing to sell them spare parts for their Leopard 2 tanks. This is why they turned to the Koreans, however the Koreans depend on the Germans for the K2s transmission, which is why the Altay tank project is stuck in the mud right now.
At the same time Turkey is trying to sell a few dozen ATAK helicopters to Pakistan but because the engine is American, they can't. Now they're considering a Ukrainian engine but I doubt if that will work out.
This is all because of the CAATSA sanctions that were imposed on Turkey because they chose to purchase the S-400 from Russia. So yes Turkey is being sanctioned and those sanctions are preventing them from striving ahead.
At the same time, much of the Iranian militaries equipment will be rendered useless in a war against the USA. That doesn't mean that Iran should completely abandon its airforce or tanks, helicopters all together.
Aside from the USA, there is also the realistic threat of a regional war in the foreseeable future. Therefore Iran needs to purchase or produce new hardware including fighter jets, helicopters, tanks, etc.
If ambitious regional nations sense weakness and the opportunity arises, they will take full advantage and attack Iran.
In my opinion Russia or China will sell Iran military hardware including fighter jets, parts for tanks, helicopters, etc, however Iran needs to make a purchase large enough for it to go through.
Manned attack helicopters are a luxury design in this day and age. They are vulnerable as well and cannot travel far. So helicopters would only be used to defend Iranian territory from a land invasion and provide close air support to Iranian soldiers.
Given the possibility of a land invasion of Iran by her neighbors (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan) is next to 0% it makes very little sense to invest in helicopters at this point in time when the cost of overcoming sanctions hurdle outweighs the benefits.
Iran should be focused on building unmanned bombers ideally that can go supersonic and attack targets in the Middle East. That would be much more of a force multiplier than attack helicopters.
But you never know what the future holds.
Is there any news of Iran buying Su-30 and JF-17 to phase out F-14 and F-5?
Is there any news of Iran buying Su-30 and JF-17 to phase out F-14 and F-5?
Russia and China refuse to sell Iran game changer weapons.
Iran is very important for China strategically.
China is a joke when it comes to Chinese-Iranian military relations. Any Iranian knows this very well. China like Russia hasnt been a reliable arms partner and in some cases is even worse, the C-802 case study is a prime example of this.
And no one wants the JF-17 in the year 2022. Iran has already written off Chinese fighters. With US already working on an 6th gen fighter, I’d rather take upgraded F-5, F-4, and Migs than adding bunch of already obsolete tech like the JF-17 that will add more chaos to the established Russian/American logistics of Iranian airforce and only a small marginal benefit. Not worth cost and maintenance. 15-20 years ago maybe...but today? No way.
JF-17 is no joke. Other than J-10, J-20, F-35, there isn't another plane other than JF-17 that has DSI.