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[C130]

The first and the last country who used them was you

and thank god it was us
do you think Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan would of be as responsible with that kinda power???

we could of nuked the world into submission if we wanted, but that's not our MO

 

[SALMAN F]

and thank god it was us
do you think Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan would of be as responsible with that kinda power???

we could of nuked the world into submission if we wanted, but that's not our MO

You are the biggest threat to world peace that's why the international community need to take your nuclear arsenal away

 

[C130]

You are the biggest threat to world peace that's why the international community need to take your nuclear arsenal away

do you honestly think the world would be closer to world peace if the U.S never existed??


or if Western Europe never existed??

I believe world peace is only possible when us humans go extinct.

God willing though.

 

[Arminkh]

Iran, as a sovereign,stable nation with better than average education levels has full rights to a peaceful Nuclear Program which their own scientists are developing. Why should any third country have a problem? And why should Iran even care? Especially when their energy sources and national products are being sanctioned?

Iran is no North Korea..They have some of the best brains in the world. Some of India's greatest Scientists have Parsee origins. The regime might be a problem for a few countries to deal with but thats a problem if at all for the Iranians to deal with.

Boy, ever since I joined this forum my respect for India and Indian people has sky rocketed! They are thriving in every aspect of science and economy yet are still so humble and respectful!

This site is a great tool to find out who are the real friends and who are the real enemies. I hope our administration also come to the same conclusion and expand its ties with friendly nations like India. (I think they have already started!)

Thank you India for your kind attention like always!

 

[Faiez]

Iran, as a sovereign,stable nation with better than average education levels has full rights to a peaceful Nuclear Program which their own scientists are developing. Why should any third country have a problem? And why should Iran even care? Especially when their energy sources and national products are being sanctioned?

Iran is no North Korea..They have some of the best brains in the world. Some of India's greatest Scientists have Parsee origins. The regime might be a problem for a few countries to deal with but thats a problem if at all for the Iranians to deal with.

in your wet dream

biased towards Iran due to religious beliefs...

Iran keeps threatening its neighbours (most of them) with war all the time, funds hezbollah, funds syrian regime, stones citizens to death etc etc...

Iran is nothing on its own without russian and chinese backing. FACT.

Boy, ever since I joined this forum my respect for India and Indian people has sky rocketed! They are thriving in every aspect of science and economy yet are still so humble and respectful!

This site is a great tool to find out who are the real friends and who are the real enemies. I hope our administration also come to the same conclusion and expand its ties with friendly nations like India. (I think they have already started!)

Thank you India for your kind attention like always!

the reason is the common socialistic thinking that Iranians and Indians both have...Same is the case with Iranian relationship with Russia and China. These guys just love socialism.

 

[monitor]

Congratulation to Iranian brothers for their achievement but the plane seems very old degine compare to modern Chinese Russian or European degine

 

[Arminkh]

biased towards Iran due to religious beliefs...

Iran keeps threatening its neighbours (most of them) with war all the time, funds hezbollah, funds syrian regime, stones citizens to death etc etc...

Iran is nothing on its own without russian and chinese backing. FACT.

China and Russia have supported two rounds of UN sanctions on Iran. Russia used the same as an excuse for not delivering the S-300 system to Iran when Iran was being threated by Israel and US every day. Is this the support you are talking about?

 

[Faiez]

China and Russia have supported two rounds of UN sanctions on Iran. Russia used the same as an excuse for not delivering the S-300 system to Iran when Iran was being threated by Israel and US every day. Is this the support you are talking about?

When you're threatening to wipe out entire countries (Israel and Saudi Arabia) off the map, not even your best friends are going to support you...Other than that, you very well know the kind of technical support Russia and China gives to Iran.

 

[The SC]

China and Russia have supported two rounds of UN sanctions on Iran. Russia used the same as an excuse for not delivering the S-300 system to Iran when Iran was being threated by Israel and US every day. Is this the support you are talking about?

Without the Indian voice in the UN to support the sanctions against Iran, these sanctions could not have been implemented. It was the biggest betrayal to Iran ever and it came from India, Your own dearest and soothing friend. Read a bit about it...

 

[Arminkh]

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Can someone translate a little part of this video ?

I will do it tonight if none of my fellow country men did it by then.

When you're threatening to wipe out entire countries (Israel and Saudi Arabia) off the map, not even your best friends are going to support you...Other than that, you very well know the kind of technical support Russia and China gives to Iran.

When was Saudi Arabia added to the list?? Wiping out Israel was also a wrong translation that Israelis used very well to their own advantage.

Providing technical support is not the kind of support that keeps countries relevant in the political struggle. Support is what Russia and China did for Syrian government. They didn't let a single threatening resolution pass in UN. Any country can get technical help when it pays for it. I'm sure yours can and already does too.

At the end of the day, any country should and would look after its own interest. Russia in particular doesn't want to see Iran becoming a big power in the middle east but also doesn't want it to be taken over by the west and become another poppet nation. So if you pay close attention you'll see that it is trying to maintain a balance, whenever it thinks Iran is becoming too strong, it is on the west side supporting their action. Whenever it feels it is getting to the point that Iran may fall apart and become a western satellite state, it changes its position and starts supporting Iran. There is no good will. It is just Russia looking after its own interest. Same is true for China.

Without the Indian voice in the UN to support the sanctions against Iran, these sanctions could not have been implemented. It was the biggest betrayal to Iran ever and it came from India, Your own dearest and soothing friend. Read a bit about it...

Countries look after their own interests and so does India. Nobody should reasonably expect India to jeopardize its economic ties with the west in return for keeping its trade with Iran which is insignificant compared to what it may lose.

What I call a good, friendly nation is the one that is looking after its own interest and is happy when its neighbors are also progressing. What I call an unfriendly nation are those that are not going anywhere themselves and feel threatened when another nation does and do try to sabotage that nation's interests in any way they can. India has never been that sort of country towards Iran.

I also think the new Indian government has a totally different attitude and from what I can see in this forum it is consistent with overall Indian public opinion.

 

[SALMAN F]

do you honestly think the world would be closer to world peace if the U.S never existed??


or if Western Europe never existed??

I believe world peace is only possible when us humans go extinct.

God willing though.

Your so called us and Western Europe are responsible for genocide and wars and starvations

The world will be more peaceful if wasn't for your warmonger politicians and military complex

 

[The SC]

I will do it tonight if none of my fellow country men did it by then.



When was Saudi Arabia added to the list?? Wiping out Israel was also a wrong translation that Israelis used very well to their own advantage.

Providing technical support is not the kind of support that keeps countries relevant in the political struggle. Support is what Russia and China did for Syrian government. They didn't let a single threatening resolution pass in UN. Any country can get technical help when it pays for it. I'm sure yours can and already does too.

At the end of the day, any country should and would look after its own interest. Russia in particular doesn't want to see Iran becoming a big power in the middle east but also doesn't want it to be taken over by the west and become another poppet nation. So if you pay close attention you'll see that it is trying to maintain a balance, whenever it thinks Iran is becoming too strong, it is on the west side supporting their action. Whenever it feels it is getting to the point that Iran may fall apart and become a western satellite state, it changes its position and starts supporting Iran. There is no good will. It is just Russia looking after its own interest. Same is true for China.



Countries look after their own interests and so does India. Nobody should reasonably expect India to jeopardize its economic ties with the west in return for keeping its trade with Iran which is insignificant compared to what it may lose.

What I call a good, friendly nation is the one what is looking after its own interest and is happy when its neighbors are also progressing. What I call an unfriendly nation are those that are not going anywhere themselves and feel threatened when another nation does and do try to sabotage that nation's interests in any way they can. India has never been that sort of country towards Iran.

I also think the new Indian government has a totally different attitude and from what I can see in this forum it is consistent with overall Indian public opinion.

I am not sure about it brother. looks can be deceiving. And India is befriending Iran's top enemies who live and die with "by way of deception". This was the biggest betrayal of any "friendly" country of Iran, since it allowed these 35 years sanctions imposed on Iran. Not long ago, maybe a year or so, An Indian oil ship poured its highly polluting waist in Iranian water and took its oil from Iraq... For no reason other than Iran asking for its oil money!!! Think whatever you want about it, but these are not friendly behaviors. Iranians are wise enough to know how to deal with overt or covert threats...

 

[Daneshmand]

Questioning the Phoenix makes me a troll? very well then, happy to be one.


Read about it from actual sites rather than wikipedia. It was made to counter slow moving bombers and yes cruise missiles, but NOT fighters, it was simply not maneouverable enough. Some modifications were made to it in 90's by USA to give it some effectiveness vs fighters, but with questionable results. Even so Iran did not get that upgrade from USA since it was post-revolution.

Wrong. It has been used a few times and failed to get a single kill. In 30 years of use, it has been unable to secure a single kill. Iran claims to have shot some planes with it but that, like other claims by Iran, is questionable. Iran used F14's as a poor man's AWACs in the Iran-Iraq war rather than as a fighter due to its powerful radar.

You are a troll who is ignorant. It is of no use to debate with you. As can be seen you have a very illogical and distorted way of thinking. You are the same person who is saying that Pakistan does not have any BVR capability on another thread, and then on this thread you have the audacity to criticize Iran's BVR capability in an ignorant unscientific way. Let's look at your statement: Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2 | Page 560

our agreement with USA forbids BVR weapons on [Pakistani] F-16s.

So if as per you, Pakistan is not even "allowed" to have BVR capability by United Sates, hurrah to Iran that actually reverse engineers AIM-54 and AIM-7.

 

[mohsen]

Can someone translate a little part of this video ?

Blah...Blah...It's the result of two years project (saeqe1->saeqe2), it's a multi-role fighter for use in air to air missions, close combat support for ground and naval unites, and also advanced training.

 

[SipahSalar]

You are a troll who is ignorant. It is of no use to debate with you. As can be seen you have a very illogical and distorted way of thinking. You are the same person who is saying that Pakistan does not have any BVR capability on another thread, and then on this thread you have the audacity to criticize Iran's BVR capability in an ignorant unscientific way. Let's look at your statement: Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2 | Page 560

Meh, read my posts on this thread. When did this become PAF vs IAF?

So if as per you, Pakistan is not even "allowed" to have BVR capability by United Sates, hurrah to Iran that actually reverse engineers AIM-54 and AIM-7.

Yes, that belief was based on an interview with a PAF pilot several years ago. Still, it was good to be corrected, i did't argue pointlessly after the reference was given. Again, totally irrelevant since this is not about PAF vs IAF, or even IAF. It's about AIM-54.