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[SubWater]

BREAKING:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=356256581553112

This guy is on point 99.9% of the time with his news sources!!

Good bro
many people here said this design can not fly and Q313 is fake and propaganda.
I can predict their actions after Qaher 313 fly; They would say that is weak, slow and useless fighter.
But Qaher missions are specific and maximize with this design.
I personally think the idea of building Qaher come to the mind of Iranian engineers after building Bavar series flying boats.
I hope one day see joint project b/w Iran and Iraq to build heavy fighter bro.

 

[TheImmortal]

A simple re-configuration can completely change the plane.

-Increase air intakes size to resemble a normal fighter
-remove tipped downward part of wings
-Enlarge plane by 75%-100% of mock up size

Question is will it still be aerodynamically sound?

By doing the above changes the design starts to look similar to chinese j-31

 

[N_Al40]

A simple re-configuration can completely change the plane.

-Increase air intakes size to resemble a normal fighter
-remove tipped downward part of wings
-Enlarge plane by 75%-100% of mock up size

Question is will it still be aerodynamically sound?

By doing the above changes the design starts to look similar to chinese j-31

The taxi footage we saw last year of the F-313 was a 1:2 scale version of the final jet. So it will be enlarged

 

[TheImmortal]

The taxi footage we saw last year of the F-313 was a 1:2 scale version of the final jet. So it will be enlarged

Intakes should be enlarged and tipped downward wing configuration eliminated.

Ultimately that might happen if Iran wants to make this platform multi purpose (interceptor, bomber, CAS).

 

[mohsen]

Must watched interview

It's a big blow to those who wanted to justify the F14 purchases.

 

[Muhammed45]

It's a big blow to those who wanted to justify the F14 purchases.

Shah was corrupt and anyone around him was corrupt, poor commanders of air force wanted F 15s but Americans berifed Shah justifying purchase of F 14 Tomcats. F 14 is good no doubt, but it didn't add on firepower of iranian armed forces. Moreover they didn't buy those jets for Iran to meet Iranian requirements, Americans shoved it into arsenal of our air force to counter Soviets. Using iran as a frontline against Soviet to choke Soviets on her own boundaries. A fuppet, what we see in Arab countries nowadays.

 

[OldTwilight]

It's a big blow to those who wanted to justify the F14 purchases.

F15 was better platform , but F14 had better radar and Phoenix ....

Ultimately f15 would be better choice

 

[mohsen]

BREAKING:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=356256581553112

This guy is on point 99.9% of the time with his news sources!!

Nothing is visible.

 

[N_Al40]

Nothing is visible.

What do you mean?

 

[AmirPatriot]

It's a big blow to those who wanted to justify the F14 purchases.

Shah was corrupt and anyone around him was corrupt, poor commanders of air force wanted F 15s but Americans berifed Shah justifying purchase of F 14 Tomcats. F 14 is good no doubt, but it didn't add on firepower of iranian armed forces. Moreover they didn't buy those jets for Iran to meet Iranian requirements, Americans shoved it into arsenal of our air force to counter Soviets. Using iran as a frontline against Soviet to choke Soviets on her own boundaries. A fuppet, what we see in Arab countries nowadays.

Iranian F-14s shot down over 150 Iraqi jets and when the Iraqis were detected by American F-14s in 1991 they just turned around and ran away... What are you two talking about?

 

[mohsen]

What do you mean?

All I see is this:
BREAKING:

Iranian F-14s shot down over 150 Iraqi jets and when the Iraqis were detected by American F-14s in 1991 they just turned around and ran away... What are you two talking about?

70 F14 instead of 280 F15,
no data exchange with Iranian radars,
no ground attack capability,
no domestic support,
higher maintenance cost,
lower endurance,

the result is what we saw in Iran-Iraq war, Iraqi bombers reaching over tehran uninterrupted.
what's the f@cking point of having a radar and missile with 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000km range when your enemy's bombers reach above your head?

 

[SubWater]

It's a big blow to those who wanted to justify the F14 purchases.

F 14 is really better than F 15 BUT the price and its maintenance is very very high in compare of F 15 and that is it's significant disadvantage.
F 14 is flying RADAR.

All I see is this:
BREAKING:


70 F14 instead of 280 F15,
no data exchange with Iranian radars,
no ground attack capability,
no domestic support,
higher maintenance cost,
lower endurance,

the result is what we saw in Iran-Iraq war, Iraqi bombers reaching over tehran uninterrupted.
what's the f@cking point of having a radar and missile with 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000km range when your enemy's bombers reach above your head?

I read from C 130 pilot that Iraqis warplane hided behind C 130 and Iranian Radars could not find them b/c of that reason.

 

[AmirPatriot]

70 F14 instead of 280 F15

Who told you the choice was between 70 F-14s and 280 F-15s?

no data exchange with Iranian radars

Do you think we could expect that in the 1970s?

no ground attack capability

Neither did the F-15A/C.

no domestic support

Implying we were going to have an F-15 production line?

lower endurance

The F-14 had a huge combat radius and was in the air for hours because of aerial refuelling tankers.

the result is what we saw in Iran-Iraq war, Iraqi bombers reaching over tehran uninterrupted.
what's the f@cking point of having a radar and missile with 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000km range when your enemy's bombers reach above your head?

Of course because we couldn't keep them operational, because if you hadn't noticed we were under an international arms embargo!

 

[Muhammed45]

Who told you the choice was between 70 F-14s and 280 F-15s?



Do you think we could expect that in the 1970s?



Neither did the F-15A/C.



Implying we were going to have an F-15 production line?



The F-14 had a huge combat radius and was in the air for hours because of aerial refuelling tankers.



Of course because we couldn't keep them operational, because if you hadn't noticed we were under an international arms embargo!

According to an Iranian commander and pilot, the air force commanders were interested in F 15s because of its unique similarities to F 4 phantoms in case of maintenance and sub systems hence cheaper in both price and maintenance. All of pilots of F 4 could fly F 15s with the least training for same reason. F 14s were stronger in all terms but due to lack of experience and technological inability of iranian air force, F 15s were a better choice. F 14s were designed to safeguard carriers and basically useless against ground targets. During war, all of bombing missions were given to F 4s and F 14s could only play the role of a mini AWACS nothing more, and no actual firepower was added to our air force by purchasing of F 14s. If Americans allow me to buy some jets, I would simply go for F 18 growler and super hornets instead of F 22s for obvious reasons.

 

[AmirPatriot]

According to an Iranian commander and pilot, the air force commanders were interested in F 15s because of its unique similarities to F 4 phantoms in case of maintenance and sub systems hence cheaper in both price and maintenance.

The F-4 and F-15 share no subsystems.

All of pilots of F 4 could fly F 15s with the least training for same reason.

All our first F-14 pilots were trained at the US Navy Top Gun school. Training was not an issue.

F 14s were designed to safeguard carriers and basically useless against ground targets.

The F-15A/C, even today, cannot carry guided weapons. Same case for the F-14A.

During war, all of bombing missions were given to F 4s and F 14s could only play the role of a mini AWACS nothing more

Do you know why all the bombing missions were given to the F-4? Because the F-14 was so valuable and capable that Iran didn't want to risk them in offensive operations! So they were only used to defend Iranian airspace.

And the "mini AWACS" thing is a myth. They were used in combat and even western scholars say they got 150+ kills.