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Who the **** are you? And why are you in this thread? Go **** your beloved erdog and let this Iraqi thread for the rest you pest
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ISIS Will Be Around For At Least Another 15 Years, Says Author
10:56 PM 03/12/2015
WASHINGTON — ISIS is establishing for itself a formidable ideological legacy, and will not be disappearing any time soon, according to a co-author of the book “ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror.”
“I don’t think ISIS is being defeated as you hear in the headlines,” Hassan Hassan said Thursday at an event hosted by the Woodrow Wilson Center. “It’s possible to defeat ISIS, but I see it in the region for at least another 15 years.”
While they have been contained in some parts, Hassan explained that it is a profoundly autonomous group where, organizationally, everyone is dispensable, and if you demolish ISIS in one area, it doesn’t really affect the others.
Another thing he pointed out was the extreme dedication and loyalty of those involved.
He said that, generally speaking, it’s almost too late when someone starts to buy into their ideology because they then become virtually immune to counter-messaging tactics.
“I’m convinced that when people join ISIS, and leave and say they have abandoned the group, they are most likely either lying, or they have never been with ISIS,” he said.
The ideological component, Hassan suggested, is the most dangerous and lasting element of the group.
He explained that ISIS’ existence as an army or insurgency will likely last for somewhere between five to ten years, but even after that, it could continue to operate and “override Al Qaeda and become a global kind of an inspiration for jihadis.”
Such jihadis, he said, “are not random. They are based on Islamic references.”
“The debate that we are hearing about today that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam I think is a Western debate, not a Middle-Eastern debate. I think in the Middle East there is a recognition that we have a problem as Muslims,” said Hassan.
He said that every act of violence committed by ISIS has a religious justification. They just don’t rely on the Koran as much as they do on other events and stories in Islamic history — which they see as a source of authority, especially when it comes to the caliphate, and early figures in Islamic history who were closer to the Islamic revelation.
“ISIS, again, is immune to the messages because it considers all clerical establishment as illegitimate, and also because they can cite examples,” Hassan explained. “When ISIS burns someone alive, they do it because someone in the history of Islam did it.”
“If you talk to ISIS members and say ‘why did you do that?’ they would say immediately they were referring to their religion and they could talk to you for hours about how it was justified.”
He concluded that he sees the current situation as favoring ISIS so far, and that its heartlands in places like Tikrit have not really been threatened yet by any internal or external challenges, although CNN reported on Monday that Iraqi forces are expected to retake Tikrit within a matter of days.
Regardless, Hassan noted that no matter the country, it is very hard to either predict or prevent those who seek to join the terrorist organization.
“As I was writing the book and researching it, I feared for my own son.”
Read more: ISIS Will Be Around For At Least Another 15 Years, Says Author | The Daily Caller
May be ISIS will be around 15 years or even 50 years. But:
1) ISIS will be no longer in Syria and Iraq. It will be soon cleaned completely . Much earlier than what US claimed.
2) ISIS will be around more than 15 years, but in US backed countries like Saudia, Turkey, Jordan etc.
3) ISIS will be around the US and US backed countries for many many coming years .... just like US gave illegal birth to Taliban, but Taliban has been around US for many many many years.
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i have warned you of interfering and taking sides. if you did such thing again il hold you responsible.
plus the shaheed in my avatar brought down the soviet union to its knees.
but the sweet kid in your avatar was somebodies boy if you know what i mean.
and for all the dumb apes here. ISIS is not the only group fighting terrorist shia and iranian militias. so the fact that you try and make this only about ISIS and that there is only one group fighting means that you are hiding behind ISIS and making them an excuse. thats why i say ISIS top leaders are taking orders from iran. ISIS have achieved irans goal by distracting the rebels and world community and forget about everyone on the ground and make this a war against "terror" instead of a war against dictatorships and iran.
for us ISIS and iran are one. we are fighting both.
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If that ape is a shahid and goes to paradise, I and every other decent human being prefer deepest spots of hell.
You are fighting no one, don't let the illusion distract you. You create a group and ideologically inspire it, then you fight it, that's indeed something to be laughed at.
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mark my words those weapons will be used against sunni ppl of iraq. they already started actuallyIQAF and IAA in the battle of Tikrit
For more than ten days, combat for the recovery of the city of Tikrit in the hands of the Islamic State since June 2014 are intense. Iraqi forces managed to enter the Qadisiyah district on Wednesday 11. The Iraqi Air Force and the Iraqi Army Aviation were engaged from the beginning of the battle. Despite the heavy presence of IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) on the ground in the recent operations in Iraq, nor IRIAF (Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force), IRGC-ASF ( Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp's Aerospace Force) and IRIAA (Islamic Republic of Iran Army Aviation) hadn't any presence in the air. IQAF (Iraqi Air Force) have played very effective role with its own Su-25s and its own pilots whom a second group, ended its gunnery training sessions in Russia just three months ago. Also, Iraqi Army Aviation had a very important role with Eurocopter EC-635, Mi-28s and Mi-35s during these operations.
These photos below shows two Eurocopter EC-635 (YI-274, YI-275) from 55th Attack Squadron together with two Bell IA-407 (YI-131, YI- ???) from 21st Armed Reco Squadron and one Mi-35M from 35th Attack Squadron in those improvised helicopter base near Samarra. These helicopters are currently supporting operations on Tikrit. One of the two EC-635 may be the Eurocopter seen in thevideo published on Tuesday on this blog.
Special thanks to Green Lemon for this pictures
Bell IA-407 and Eurocopter EC-635 (YI-275)
Mi-35M on the background and Eurocopter EC-635 (YI-275)
Bell IA-407 (YI-131) and Eurocopter EC-635 (YI-274)
AéroHisto - Histoire de l'aviation: IQAF and IAA in the battle of Tikrit
This video was already posted (i think),but it is so good to see terrorists being slaughtered.
@haman10 @Malik Alashter @1000 @Alshawi1234 etc.
what he just said reminded me famous iranians who made famous poets cursing arabs and their gods. thats what you were tought in school. i told you. you are sick. please arab shia listen and watch
in shaa allah you will go there. and i hope soon.
we are waiting.they all will be coming to play with saudi soon.and all dogs in saudi will flee too.
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I know the education system in Saudi Arabia is bad but this is epic.The terrorists Khattab never fought the Soviet Union
He is dead, Russia and Chechnya are not.You are one Sick Takfiri if you claim that it is taught in Schools.
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you dumb ape this was held in a government bulding. they have those ppl poems in the Parliament. if im not mistaken.
and talking about schools its enough that arabs are not allowed to study in their own language even balouch.
what does takfiri mean ? you parrot pick up lines from the media and use it like a fool.
what about your sick friends comment " If that ape is a shahid and goes to paradise, I and every other decent human being prefer deepest spots of hell. "
thats what the famous poet said in his poem. it meant something like that
you are coward thats what you are.
dont let me bring you proof and show you that they are takfiri not us. you will look like a fool
go check how many Russians got killed by him. you want me to teach you your own history ?! lolI know the education system in Saudi Arabia is bad but this is epic.The terrorists Khattab never fought the Soviet Union
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Wut were you saying?
Iraqi forces pause in battle to drive Islamic State from Tikrit
(Reuters) - Frustrated by guerrilla tactics from Islamic State militants, Iraqi forces paused for reinforcements on Friday in a major offensive to take back the city of Tikrit.
The operation appeared to have stalled for the time being, two days after Iraqi security forces and their mainly Shi'ite militia allies pushed into Tikrit, the home city of executed ex-president Saddam Hussein.
A source in the military command said Iraqi forces would not move forward until reinforcements reached Tikrit, of which Islamic State still holds around half.
If government forces wrest full control, it will be the first time they have won back a city from Islamic State since it over-ran large areas of the country last year and declared an Islamic caliphate in territory it is holding in Iraq and Syria.
From there it has spread fear across the region by beheading Arab and Western hostages and killing or kidnapping members of religious minorities like Yazidis and Christians.
In Tikrit, the militants have deployed snipers and turned streets into a labyrinth of home-made bombs and booby-trapped buildings.
Forces loyal to powerful Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and known as the 'Peace Brigades' appeared to be positioning themselves to join the government offensive. Up to 1,500 fighters had reached the sacred Shi'ite city of Samarra, south of Tikrit, a source in Sadr's provincial office told Reuters.
The deployment came days after Sadr announced the "unfreezing" of his forces' participation in battles against the militants. He had suspended their actions after allegations of abuses committed by other Shi'ite militias during recent operations.
One official said he was told that the Peace Brigade fighters intend to push north toward Tikrit on Saturday.
Hadi al-Amiri, the head of the Shi'ite paramilitary Badr Organization and now one of the most powerful men in Iraq, said the outcome of the battle for Tikrit was in no doubt, but Iraqi forces needed time.
"We are not in a hurry, but we have a plan and we are following it," Amiri told state television from the frontline. "Even if the battle drags on for two, three or four days that is okay. We will celebrate the liberation of Tikrit from the enemy.”
IRANIAN ROLE
A victory in Tikrit would give Iraqi forces momentum for the next stage of the campaign to retake Mosul, the largest city under control of Islamic State.
But the involvement of Iran, which backs some of the Shi'ite militia at the forefront of the campaign and is also playing a direct role, is a source of unease for some Sunnis in Iraq and across the wider region.
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander Qassem Soleimani has been spotted on the battlefield overseeing the Tikrit offensive. The foreign minister of Sunni Saudi Arabia, Saud al-Faisal, last week said the battle for Tikrit showed how Iran was "taking over" Iraq.
Islamic State fighters overran the city last June during a lightning offensive that was halted just outside Baghdad. They have since used the complex of palaces built in Tikrit under the late Saddam as their headquarters.
The insurgents were still in control of the presidential complex and at least three other districts in the center of Tikrit on Friday.
Iraqi special forces attacked a medical college in southern Tikrit at dawn, but the militants managed to fend them off, killing three soldiers, according to the military command source. A further six people were killed when a Humvee vehicle packed with explosives rammed into an outpost of the Iraqi forces to the west of the city.
More than 20,000 Iraqi troops and Shi'ite militias, supported by local Sunni tribes are taking part in the offensive, which began 11 days ago.
OFFENSIVE AROUND KIRKUK
Islamic State spokesman Abu Mohammad al-Adnani said in an audio-recording published on Thursday that its fighters remained "steadfast" and were growing in strength, dismissing its enemies claims of gains in Tikrit as "fake".
Adnani warned followers of the danger posed by Shi'ites, using a derogatory term to refer to them: "The rejectionists have entered a new phase in their war against the Sunni people: they have begun to think of taking and controlling the Sunni areas," he said. "They have come to take your homes and belongings, kill your men and rape and enslave your women."
Even if the militants are routed from the city, they still hold a vast area straddling the Syrian border where they are likely to regroup, and Iraqi forces have previously struggled to hold ground they have retaken from the extremist group.
Islamic State is on the back foot in the north, where Shi'ite militia and Kurdish forces known as peshmerga went on the offensive around the oil-rich city of Kirkuk on Friday.
The peshmerga began attacking IS positions near Kirkuk on Monday and have retaken territory and a number of villages to the southwest. Kurdish commanders said they had faced relatively weak resistance, but were being held up by homemade bombs.
Iraqi forces pause in battle to drive Islamic State from Tikrit | Reuters
Iraqi forces pause in battle to drive Islamic State from Tikrit
(Reuters) - Frustrated by guerrilla tactics from Islamic State militants, Iraqi forces paused for reinforcements on Friday in a major offensive to take back the city of Tikrit.
The operation appeared to have stalled for the time being, two days after Iraqi security forces and their mainly Shi'ite militia allies pushed into Tikrit, the home city of executed ex-president Saddam Hussein.
A source in the military command said Iraqi forces would not move forward until reinforcements reached Tikrit, of which Islamic State still holds around half.
If government forces wrest full control, it will be the first time they have won back a city from Islamic State since it over-ran large areas of the country last year and declared an Islamic caliphate in territory it is holding in Iraq and Syria.
From there it has spread fear across the region by beheading Arab and Western hostages and killing or kidnapping members of religious minorities like Yazidis and Christians.
In Tikrit, the militants have deployed snipers and turned streets into a labyrinth of home-made bombs and booby-trapped buildings.
Forces loyal to powerful Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and known as the 'Peace Brigades' appeared to be positioning themselves to join the government offensive. Up to 1,500 fighters had reached the sacred Shi'ite city of Samarra, south of Tikrit, a source in Sadr's provincial office told Reuters.
The deployment came days after Sadr announced the "unfreezing" of his forces' participation in battles against the militants. He had suspended their actions after allegations of abuses committed by other Shi'ite militias during recent operations.
One official said he was told that the Peace Brigade fighters intend to push north toward Tikrit on Saturday.
Hadi al-Amiri, the head of the Shi'ite paramilitary Badr Organization and now one of the most powerful men in Iraq, said the outcome of the battle for Tikrit was in no doubt, but Iraqi forces needed time.
"We are not in a hurry, but we have a plan and we are following it," Amiri told state television from the frontline. "Even if the battle drags on for two, three or four days that is okay. We will celebrate the liberation of Tikrit from the enemy.”
IRANIAN ROLE
A victory in Tikrit would give Iraqi forces momentum for the next stage of the campaign to retake Mosul, the largest city under control of Islamic State.
But the involvement of Iran, which backs some of the Shi'ite militia at the forefront of the campaign and is also playing a direct role, is a source of unease for some Sunnis in Iraq and across the wider region.
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander Qassem Soleimani has been spotted on the battlefield overseeing the Tikrit offensive. The foreign minister of Sunni Saudi Arabia, Saud al-Faisal, last week said the battle for Tikrit showed how Iran was "taking over" Iraq.
Islamic State fighters overran the city last June during a lightning offensive that was halted just outside Baghdad. They have since used the complex of palaces built in Tikrit under the late Saddam as their headquarters.
The insurgents were still in control of the presidential complex and at least three other districts in the center of Tikrit on Friday.
Iraqi special forces attacked a medical college in southern Tikrit at dawn, but the militants managed to fend them off, killing three soldiers, according to the military command source. A further six people were killed when a Humvee vehicle packed with explosives rammed into an outpost of the Iraqi forces to the west of the city.
More than 20,000 Iraqi troops and Shi'ite militias, supported by local Sunni tribes are taking part in the offensive, which began 11 days ago.
OFFENSIVE AROUND KIRKUK
Islamic State spokesman Abu Mohammad al-Adnani said in an audio-recording published on Thursday that its fighters remained "steadfast" and were growing in strength, dismissing its enemies claims of gains in Tikrit as "fake".
Adnani warned followers of the danger posed by Shi'ites, using a derogatory term to refer to them: "The rejectionists have entered a new phase in their war against the Sunni people: they have begun to think of taking and controlling the Sunni areas," he said. "They have come to take your homes and belongings, kill your men and rape and enslave your women."
Even if the militants are routed from the city, they still hold a vast area straddling the Syrian border where they are likely to regroup, and Iraqi forces have previously struggled to hold ground they have retaken from the extremist group.
Islamic State is on the back foot in the north, where Shi'ite militia and Kurdish forces known as peshmerga went on the offensive around the oil-rich city of Kirkuk on Friday.
The peshmerga began attacking IS positions near Kirkuk on Monday and have retaken territory and a number of villages to the southwest. Kurdish commanders said they had faced relatively weak resistance, but were being held up by homemade bombs.
Iraqi forces pause in battle to drive Islamic State from Tikrit | Reuters
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Go back and get an education. The Chechen war started in1994, the second war started in 1999 The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, so how can you claim Khattab brought the Soviet Union to its knees?
And guess what, a lot more terrorists including Khattab were killed then Russians
Khattab and his friends are dead, Chechnya and Russia are still here.
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IM SPREADING AWARENESS NOT HATE. what a fool
when i show ppl your true face how am i a racist. actually i was defending you specifically cuz i knew you were going to comment. you know how i did that ? by simply showing you what iranians think of you. all i did is showed you a video of a man insulting arabs and islam in a government building. including shia arabs. how am i racist ? if anything it was a wake up call for you. im not asking you to become sunni. im showing you how iranians are using you and how racist they are, not all of course.
i thought you have some dignity left in you and understand that iran are using shia arabs as a tool. just do some research and you will know that there are tons of info that shows how iran hate arabs.
but im starting to think you are not arab. you might be iranian pretending to be arab.
again just to be clear. i dont have problems with iranians. i had many friends from iran. the problem is the government and those who support their government.
hamdulelah i still got a brain and im using it. stop attacking me and prove what im saying is wrong. you cant.
you have to make this personal and attack me and distract ppl from the main subject i was talking about.
khattab was in afghanistan then when the soviet union collapsed he went to Chechnya. if you cant use your brains at least use google!Go back and get an education. The Chechen war started in1994, the second war started in 1999 The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, so how can you claim Khattab brought the Soviet Union to its knees?
And guess what, a lot more terrorists including Khattab were killed then Russians
the names changed but he was fighting the same ppl.
dont get too emotional about this. no need to make it personal. you got some info wrong no problem.
do you understand and speak arabic ?
يا اخي الفاضل ... ان شاء الله ساجاوب على ردودك و لكن فيها تفاصيل طويله و معقده فاتمنى نخليها يوم ثاني.
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