Iraq's reconstruction and development

[Doritos11]

Turks are smart businessmen and are investing well. The Turks in KSA and their descendants (about 200.000 people) have done well with themselves. Most live in Hejaz and have integrated to the society and married locals. We Arab nations and Muslim nations should invest more in each other especially neighbors. Because unsuitability and conflicts have a negative impact on the region.



Yes, this is smaller malls I guess. They are the same here in Denmark. They don't call them malls but just separate names. In France there was mall complexes with Carrefour, Géant, Media Market and all those big firms.

Rotterdam? Hometown of RVP, LOL.

Yes, I believe that other cities are much nicer in Netherlands although I did not visit other big cities or lived there.

In KSA and UAE there are many local ones such as Al-Baik which many people like because it is cheap and good.

Al Baik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I mean all people copy the West today and fast food is no different. In 50 years time if something drastic those not change then I fear that the region will be turned into a fat mans heaven. This is why there must be a limit to malls in my opinion.

I think that for now these malls are good, after the economy recovers and security is guaranteed they should build a few malls in the 3 major cities ( baghdad, mosul, basra ) that compete with world malls, the population is big, without such big malls the other malls would be overcrowded. Currently GDP growth is about 15-18 billion a year.
They will also build a high speed rail over the country, underground metro in baghdad and an elevated light rail.

Now there is little competition, if security comes that would change.

 

[al-Hasani]

I cannot somehow see your latest post Doritos11 so I cannot reply. It only shows that you wrote a post 4.59 AM but when I try to see it then I can only see my post number 255. Very strange.

I think that for now these malls are good, after the economy recovers and security is guaranteed they should build a few malls in the 3 major cities ( baghdad, mosul, basra ) that competes with world malls, the population is big, without such big malls the other malls would be overcrowded. Currently GDP growth is about 15-18 billion a year.
They will also build a high speed rail over the country, underground metro in baghdad and an elevated light rail.

Now there is little competition, if security comes that would change.

Now I can see it, LOL. Yes, that sounds good. All the best of luck to Iraq. I hope that they will built in Adhamiyah and Ramadi too were some of my family members live. Also, you might not like this, but I would also like to see what is happening in Iraqi Kurdistan. It seems that they have some business going in Arbil at least.

Maybe in the future our region will be connected by train, sea etc. For example a direct train from Baghdad to Makkah/Madinah/Jeddah/Riyadh or to Damascus/Amman/Kuwait City/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Beirut/Muscat/Doha/Sana'a/Cairo/Istanbul etc. It could be amazing. Maybe in 50 years time?

 

[Doritos11]

I cannot somehow see your latest post Doritos11 so I cannot reply. It only shows that you wrote a post 4.59 AM but when I try to see it then I can only see my post number 255. Very strange.

Didn’t see it either first, now I see it, anyway if not seen unimportant.

 

[Doritos11]

I cannot somehow see your latest post Doritos11 so I cannot reply. It only shows that you wrote a post 4.59 AM but when I try to see it then I can only see my post number 255. Very strange.



Now I can see it, LOL. Yes, that sounds good. All the best of luck to Iraq. I hope that they will built in Adhamiyah and Ramadi too were some of my family members live. Also, you might not like this, but I would also like to see what is happening in Iraqi Kurdistan. It seems that they have some business going in Arbil at least.

Maybe in the future our region will be connected by train, sea etc. For example a direct train from Baghdad to Makkah/Madinah/Jeddah/Riyadh or to Damascus/Amman/Kuwait City/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Beirut/Muscat/Doha/Sana'a/Cairo/Istanbul etc. It could be amazing. Maybe in 50 years time?

The only reason the 3 usual posters here do not post Iraqi Kurdistan is to keep members from starting dicussions about it and considering we don’t want to attract them ultra nationalist kurds lol.
Anyway, from a political situation I’m pretty sure these Kurds are stuck with us for a long time.... they cannot go independent, maybe in the future Iraq will force them to raise the iraqi flag aswell considering their power is growing.
The current malls built in Baghdad are similar and bigger then the ones in KRG region, though they have better security thus better tourism and more investment by the western companies.

Maybe in the future our region will be connected by train, sea etc. For example a direct train from Baghdad to Makkah/Madinah/Jeddah/Riyadh or to Damascus/Amman/Kuwait City/Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Beirut/Muscat/Doha/Sana'a/Cairo/Istanbul etc. It could be amazing. Maybe in 50 years time?

This idea can be realised if the region turns into a EU style state, though for real fast transportation maglev is needed which is too expensive over such distances, even with the oil money, maybe in the future.
For now the planned high speed rail is 250 km/h, for the distances your talking about for example Baghdad-Riyadh at least 350 km/h is needed with good entertainment on that train, faster speeds recquire maglev.

 

[revojam]

Always pleasure to visit this thread keep it up.

 

[al-Hasani]

Yes, you are probably right in that department. Right now the construction of maglev is expensive but in the future it might become much cheaper. Some of the connections would easily be possible with the right planning etc. If there is a market for it after all. There are already highways. For example a train line between Riyadh and Amman is planned and Baghdad is closer. I mean having direct lines is not necessarily just lines to the nearest cities and from there to other more nearer cities. Like in Europe were the infrastructure is great at least in Western Europe. For example I could take the train from Copenhagen tomorrow and go to Hamburg. From Hamburg I could go all the way to Athens, Málaga or Rome thousands of km away. Something alike would be great for the region. Today there are just fortified borders, constant mistrust and small and big conflicts.

Yes, most people use planes today and the airline industry is only going to grow but alternatives could be fun. It does not even need to be by maglev. Maybe some will enjoy a transportation that is slower but where they can see more of the countryside and even make trips were they stop in city/region/area x or y and stay overnight to go further the next day etc.

The region can only survive if the countries work together on the long run and if the region wants to be as independent as possible.

Anyway going to bed now. Nice talking to you guys.

 

[QADRI]

This is excellent. Its always wonderful to see a Muslim country developing. But besides these developments I wish Iraq would also his own strong and huge and well equipment Army and Air force so that no one could come and destroy you again.

 

[Dizer]

KIRKUK MALL AND RESIDENTIAL TOWERS U/C

BAGHDAD JEWELS MALL U/C

HABANIYA DREAM CITY APPROVED

 

[xenon54 out]

Wow, looks like Iraq is one of the fastest growing countrys in ME, im happy for them, they deserved it after years of war and negative image.
Only this shia-sunni BS must stop so tourists can come.

 

[Dizer]

Wow, looks like Iraq is one of the fastest growing countrys in ME, im happy for them, they deserved it after years of war and negative image.
Only this shia-sunni BS must stop so tourists can come.

A lot of the unrest in Iraq is foreign sponsored chaos..but certainly we need to play our part in changing mentalities. We basically need an Iraqi Mustafa Kamal ataturk..

 

[Doritos11]

1st of 30 new Boeing 737-800 finished, soon to be delivered to Iraqi airways, all 30 to be delivered within 4 years.

 

[Serpentine]

I hope Iraq reaches its real place. Among all Arabs, I like Iraqis and Syrians the most.Most of them are progressive and open minded.
If only Saddam had not started that stupid and unnecassary war with Iran, maybe Iraq would never attack Kuwait and later scenarios would never happen. Iraq could be a developed country in ME.
Anyway, I like this thread, good going.I hope all these projects see the light of the day.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Sawah pearl residential project in the city of Samawah, Muthana province. 800 units+ schools, recreational area, shopping centre...*

Some updates
Ramadi sports complex in Anbar province. *+ hotel and secondary stadium.*

Hotel 75 room capacity+ swimming pool.*

Main stadium 30k capacity*

 

[Alshawi1234]

Mina stadium in Basrah

Karbala Janat hotel, to be constructed soon
This project contain 5 star hotel of 15 floors with total number of rooms 240 deluxe rooms and 82 suite, central market of 19 shops , several cafes, cafeterias, 3 restaurant , gymnasium, loopy and sitting area, swimming pool, green zones and car parks.*
Cost $132 USD

 

[Alshawi1234]

Shanasheel Al Basrah residential project. Construction in early stages
Cost:$200 million USD

Sadr city sports complex in Baghdad, updates.*
30k main stadium,*2k secondary stadium ,*500 capacity stadium with track, 4 star hotel, 500 capacity indoor Arena

Hotel