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Iraqi MiG-29 Pilot Explains how he was able to Shoot Down a RAF Tornado during Operation Desert Storm

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/ira...-a-raf-tornado-during-operation-desert-storm/

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I manoeuvred the aircraft to be behind and above them, I selected R-60MK heat-seeking missile and a HUD symbology appeared (ER) which means target acquired and I fired,” Capt. Jameel Sayhood, IrAF MiG-29 Pilot.
The MiG-29, known as the Fulcrum in the west, became both one of the Soviet Air Force’s main fighter types and a successful Soviet export with nearly a third of the 1,500 first generation Fulcrums built up to 1996 being exported. It saw service with 25 nations around the globe.

Designed as a mass-produced and relatively cheap light tactical fighter, the MiG-29 first flew on Oct. 6, 1977. After extensive flight testing, it entered production in 1982 and deliveries to the Soviet Air Force began in 1983.

he Fulcrum received its baptism of fire during the First Gulf War of 1990-91 (the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the ensuing US-led military operation to force Iraq out of Kuwait), seven years later after entering Soviet Air Force service. However, when Operation Desert Storm (or, to the UK, Operation Granby) was launched, Iraq made no real effort to oppose the Western coalition; at any rate, there was very little fighter activity.

As reported by Yefim Gordon and Dmitriy Komissarov in their book Mikoyan MiG-29 & MiG-35, according to Iraqi sources, on Jan. 19, 1991 an Iraqi Air Force (IrAF) MiG-29 flown by Capt. Jameel Sayhood shot down a Royal Air Force/No.31 Squadron Panavia Tornado GR.1A strike aircraft (ZA467/’EK’, c/n BS097/283/3133) with an R-60 AAM. The Tornado was making a low level bombing attack on the Ar-Rutbah air defence radar site; the crew, pilot Squadron Leader G.K.S. Lennox and navigator Squadron Leader K. P. Weeks, did not eject and were killed.

This is the firsthand account of Capt. Jameel Sayhood. ‘January 19th, 1991, Al-Waleed AB. I was on standby alert with my wingman Capt. Alaa Abdul Jabbar that day in case the GCI ordered us for intercept. We were part of detachment from Al-Qadisiyah AB stationed at Al-Waleed/H3 AB (we moved there the day before, January 18th). Two days earlier, on the first night of the war, we lost two brave pilots from our squadron when two MiG-29s were downed by USAF F-15s over Talha airfield, and we were eager for revenge, despite the declining ability of the Air Force to counter the coalition aircraft as our bases, runways, EW radars and many other installations were either destroyed or damaged but thanks to the efforts of the repair crews who did everything they could to get us airborne.

Already on January 19th the day started for my squadron when two MiG-29s headed for an intercept of [a] US formation of AWACS and F-15s. So I was anxious to hear news about them.

‘Around midday the air defence sector commander […] called the standby unit and I answered the call. He told me the P-19 radars near the city of Hit had detected a four ship formation – probably British Tornados-heading north from the Saudi borders. “We assess their destination [as] either Al-Waleed/H3 AB or Saad/H2AB or Al-Qadisiya AB or even Tammuz AB. Since we experienced what these planes do to runways with their JP223 bombs so you should be in the aircraft in case Al-Waleed AB is their target.”

‘I was ready in the aircraft at 1220 hrs, waiting. I [had] already checked the systems and missiles. I was carrying two R27R semi-active radar guided missiles R-60MK heat-seeking missiles. […] I was thinking about the upcoming task and also about the other two MiG-29s already in the air to intercept the AWACS. Finally the order came at 12.26h. The Tornados were coining toward me, so I was given the permission to scramble immediately.

I switched the radio frequency to the AD sector and the GCI notified me that “an enemy aircraft is to the right and directly below you!” I turned my head to the right and noticed an airplane and since the sun was high in the sky I noticed its shadow on the desert floor (it was a RAF Tornado no doubt). […] I estimated the distance [as] 500 metres (1,640 feet), no more, and apparently they didn’t notice me… I manoeuvred the aircraft to be behind and above them, I selected R-60MK heat-seeking missile and a HUD symbology appeared (ER) which means target acquired and I fired. Within a second they turned their heads toward me… it appears they noticed the flash of the missile of their RWR warned them. That was the first and last time they seen me. A huge explosion rocked the plane and soon it was engulfed in fire and crashed to the desert floor. […] They were flying at only 70 metres (230 feet).’

However, western observers dismiss this claim because ZA467 was in fact shot down on Jan. 22, 1991 and attribute the loss to surface-to-air missiles. Another RAF Tornado GR.1Awas indeed shot down on Jan. 19 – a No.27 Squadron aircraft (ZA396/’GE’, c/n BS063/194/3095) flown by pilot Flight Lieutenant David Waddington and navigator Flight Lieutenant Robbie Stewart, but this was a confirmed SAM’kill’.

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To supplement this story, from Wiki;

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Second engagement
Sayhood continued his mission defending Iraqi airspace and came across two F-15Cs piloted by Captains Craig Underhill and Cesar Rodriguez. Underhill and Rodriguez were pursuing another pair of MiG-29s when they spotted Sayhood and his wingman. Sayhood and his wingman promptly engaged the two American aircraft and one of the most intense dogfights of the Gulf War ensued. The two MiGs and F-15s flew straight at each other, each attempting to visually identify their aggressors. Underhill faced Sayhood's wingman, while Sayhood himself faced Rodriguez. Underhill fired an AIM-7 at Sayhood's wingman, hitting him head on and killing him instantly. At the same time, Rodriguez sensed a radar lock by Sayhood, throwing him onto the defensive. Rodriguez dove down to the deck in order to confuse Sayhood's radar with ground clutter, hoping to shake the radar lock on his aircraft. After seeing his wingman killed, Sayhood briefly broke off the attack. Rodriguez and Underhill started heading south for a tanker, when Sayhood approached them from the north. Rodriguez and Underhill turned around to face Sayhood. Underhill got a radar lock on Sayhood with an AIM-7, but didn't fire because he wasn't sure if Sayhood was friendly or not. Sayhood sliced into their formation causing a "classic merge". Underhill climbed, keeping his lock on Sayhood, while Rodriguez stayed committed to the merge in order to visually identify the aircraft as hostile. As they passed each other, Rodriguez identified it as Iraqi, and each pilot turned left to engage the other. Sayhood was relying on the MiG's better turning radius to get onto Rodriguez's tail. They slowly spiraled towards the ground until Sayhood attempted to pull out using a split-s. Rodriguez didn't follow, and just before Sayhood could pull out, he crashed into the ground. He managed to eject from his MiG, reportedly with his crash site reportedly being merely a mile from the British jet previously shot down by him."

Conclusion of this aforementioned engagement with USAS Cesar Rodriguez, from Dogfight of the Mideast;


after seeing the enactment of the dogfight with Cesar and him, I didn't have faith in his dogfighting capabilities. A fighter pilot who misjudges with Split-S, in the middle of a dogfight, and not having a good SA (Situation Awareness), shouldn't get any sympathies for getting his opponent a "maneuvering kill", in my opinion.

To supplement this story, from Wiki;

"...
Second engagement
Sayhood continued his mission defending Iraqi airspace and came across two F-15Cs piloted by Captains Craig Underhill and Cesar Rodriguez. Underhill and Rodriguez were pursuing another pair of MiG-29s when they spotted Sayhood and his wingman. Sayhood and his wingman promptly engaged the two American aircraft and one of the most intense dogfights of the Gulf War ensued. The two MiGs and F-15s flew straight at each other, each attempting to visually identify their aggressors. Underhill faced Sayhood's wingman, while Sayhood himself faced Rodriguez. Underhill fired an AIM-7 at Sayhood's wingman, hitting him head on and killing him instantly. At the same time, Rodriguez sensed a radar lock by Sayhood, throwing him onto the defensive. Rodriguez dove down to the deck in order to confuse Sayhood's radar with ground clutter, hoping to shake the radar lock on his aircraft. After seeing his wingman killed, Sayhood briefly broke off the attack. Rodriguez and Underhill started heading south for a tanker, when Sayhood approached them from the north. Rodriguez and Underhill turned around to face Sayhood. Underhill got a radar lock on Sayhood with an AIM-7, but didn't fire because he wasn't sure if Sayhood was friendly or not. Sayhood sliced into their formation causing a "classic merge". Underhill climbed, keeping his lock on Sayhood, while Rodriguez stayed committed to the merge in order to visually identify the aircraft as hostile. As they passed each other, Rodriguez identified it as Iraqi, and each pilot turned left to engage the other. Sayhood was relying on the MiG's better turning radius to get onto Rodriguez's tail. They slowly spiraled towards the ground until Sayhood attempted to pull out using a split-s. Rodriguez didn't follow, and just before Sayhood could pull out, he crashed into the ground. He managed to eject from his MiG, reportedly with his crash site reportedly being merely a mile from the British jet previously shot down by him."

Conclusion of this aforementioned engagement with USAS Cesar Rodriguez, from Dogfight of the Mideast;


after seeing the enactment of the dogfight with Cesar and him, I didn't have faith in his dogfighting capabilities. A fighter pilot who misjudges with Split-S, in the middle of a dogfight, and not having a good SA (Situation Awareness), shouldn't get any sympathies for getting his opponent a "maneuvering kill", in my opinion.

Any capable pilot could have had this as a kill too, while flying in such a capable dogfighter as a Mig-29!

Time and time again, it's proven that it's not the plane but the guy flying it, wins the engagement.
 
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Any capable pilot could have had this as a kill too, while flying in such a capable dogfighter as a Mig-29!

Time and time again, it's proven that it's not the plane but the guy flying it, wins the engagement.

Iraqi pilots had not enough trainings and their plan makers were idiots. in one interview one of our pilots were saying that they always were putting their mig-29s against f-14 and after seeing the result they were doing it again, or in one case 3 mirages tailed 2 of our tomcats and fired 12 missiles and missed all of them, the pilots were saying they (iraqi pilots) always broke the radar lock while the missile was about to hit us. he said Saddam didn't know difference between a tank crew and a pilot. how ever IRQAF did some innovations during the war which on my opinion were remarkable, like arming mig-25s with anti radar missiles or integrating Russian missiles into f-1s and neka power plant raid.
 
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Also the contributing fact was that most of these pilot were appointed, sons/relatives of ruling party, on duty high officials. They were never going to succeed as they didn't go through a rigorous selection process, as most of the air forces do.
 
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Read the article you posted their one Tornado claims by Iraqi air force (not confirmed by neutral source) , rest is from friendly fire incidents, and crashes, read you quate before you post @undertakerwwefan

Not to accidents. Source: http://www.rjlee.org/air/ds-aaloss/

1/17 1933Z
Loss
GR.1
617 Sqn (RAF)
8nm NWW Tallil
AAA

1/17 0632Z
Loss
GR.1
15 Sqn (RAF)
1nm W Basra
R-SAM

/19 0642Z
Loss
GR.1
617 Sqn (RAF)
51nm SE Tallil
IR-SAM

1/19 1700Z
Loss
GR.1
15 Sqn (RAF)
H-3
R-SAM

1/19
Loss
GR.1
RSAF
AAA

1/24
Damage
GR.1
RAF
R-SAM

2/7
Loss
GR.1
27 Sqn (RAF)
R-SAM

2/14 0545Z
Loss
GR.1
15 Sqn (RAF)
50nm NW Baghdad
R-SAM
 
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Not to accidents. Source: http://www.rjlee.org/air/ds-aaloss/

1/17 1933Z
Loss
GR.1
617 Sqn (RAF)
8nm NWW Tallil
AAA

1/17 0632Z
Loss
GR.1
15 Sqn (RAF)
1nm W Basra
R-SAM

/19 0642Z
Loss
GR.1
617 Sqn (RAF)
51nm SE Tallil
IR-SAM

1/19 1700Z
Loss
GR.1
15 Sqn (RAF)
H-3
R-SAM

1/19
Loss
GR.1
RSAF
AAA

1/24
Damage
GR.1
RAF
R-SAM

2/7
Loss
GR.1
27 Sqn (RAF)
R-SAM

2/14 0545Z
Loss
GR.1
15 Sqn (RAF)
50nm NW Baghdad
R-SAM
We are taking about air to air fight losses by Iraqi air force not SAM and AAA hits @undertakerwwefan :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 
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