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US had existing base in Baghdad and US apache helicopters provided support for Iraqi ground troops when ISIS was trying to advance near Baghdad or Karbala. Reality is Iraq needed US support and US military is many times more capable and logistically prepared than Iran. Iran simply gave salaries to some militias in Iraq who were not militarily competent at the time. US Air Force orchestrated whole anti-ISIS offensive under Obama and no one else can fill that role besides maybe Russia.

Americans never won a single battle on their own. Even when they were fighting for their freedom from Britain they only won after France and Spain and Holland started fighting Britain on their side.
 
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US had existing base in Baghdad and US apache helicopters provided support for Iraqi ground troops when ISIS was trying to advance near Baghdad or Karbala. Reality is Iraq needed US support and US military is many times more capable and logistically prepared than Iran. Iran simply gave salaries to some militias in Iraq who were not militarily competent at the time. US Air Force orchestrated whole anti-ISIS offensive under Obama and no one else can fill that role besides maybe Russia.
That's what I called it managing. USA sometimes fights against Taliban only when her own benefits goes under threat. USA waited until fall of Baghdad but we didn't. We were there when Iraqis needed our help. The same thing that USA did to Kabul and Tripoli. With their own created terror groups armed and charged by Ale Saud, they go to fighting them, isn't it the biggest irony dude? They first destroy them and then by making terror groups the excuse, they start to advancing in muslim countries.
Iran has never paid a single iraqi soldier you liar, they are all nder control of iraqi government. Pull your head out of that shit that sharif al marghuz pushed it deep into that shit. We are not paying iraqi neither they needed our money. And what do you know ow of ISIS advance In iraqi cities? When iraqi government asked US for help, they delayed it. But after our sincere help to Iraqis they came in to stop the possible friendship between Iraq and Iran.
 
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That's what I called it managing. USA sometimes fights against Taliban only when her own benefits goes under threat. USA waited until fall of Baghdad but we didn't. We were there when Iraqis needed our help. The same thing that USA did to Kabul and Tripoli. With their own created terror groups armed and charged by Ale Saud, they go to fighting them, isn't it the biggest irony dude? They first destroy them and then by making terror groups the excuse, they start to advancing in muslim countries.
Iran has never paid a single iraqi soldier you liar, they are all nder control of iraqi government. Pull your head out of that shit that sharif al marghuz pushed it deep into that shit. We are not paying iraqi neither they needed our money. And what do you know ow of ISIS advance In iraqi cities? When iraqi government asked US for help, they delayed it. But after our sincere help to Iraqis they came in to stop the possible friendship between Iraq and Iran.

You did next to nothing, US was not waiting on anything. Mosul was lost very suddenly when Iraqi army withdrew. US was aiding Iraqi forces in Fallujah in beginning of 2014 when Iraqi forces lost it again. Obama wanted Maliki to take political steps to build better relations with tribes and win over some Sunni's. US goal in Iraq is to build up Iraqi army, not to fight war, that is Iraqi army's job. US needed to bring carriers and organize coalition which they did. Iran did play a role on ground but it wasn't as significant as you make.

Yes certain militias in Iraq are funded by Iran, this well known among everyone in region. This forum is not a place with uneducated people who you can keep lying to and spreading propaganda. You are clearly an immature person.
 
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You did next to nothing, US was not waiting on anything. Mosul was lost very suddenly when Iraqi army withdrew. US was aiding Iraqi forces in Fallujah in beginning of 2014 when Iraqi forces lost it again. Obama wanted Maliki to take political steps to build better relations with tribes and win over some Sunni's. US goal in Iraq is to build up Iraqi army, not to fight war, that is Iraqi army's job. US needed to bring carriers and organize coalition which they did. Iran did play a role on ground but it wasn't as significant as you make.

Yes certain militias in Iraq are funded by Iran, this well known among everyone in region. This forum is not a place with uneducated people who you can keep lying to and spreading propaganda. You are clearly an immature person.

What did Americans do to fight ISIS? Iranians used UCAV against ISIS.

 
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You did next to nothing, US was not waiting on anything. Mosul was lost very suddenly when Iraqi army withdrew. US was aiding Iraqi forces in Fallujah in beginning of 2014 when Iraqi forces lost it again. Obama wanted Maliki to take political steps to build better relations with tribes and win over some Sunni's. US goal in Iraq is to build up Iraqi army, not to fight war, that is Iraqi army's job. US needed to bring carriers and organize coalition which they did. Iran did play a role on ground but it wasn't as significant as you make.

Yes certain militias in Iraq are funded by Iran, this well known among everyone in region. This forum is not a place with uneducated people who you can keep lying to and spreading propaganda. You are clearly an immature person.
Yeah the much Americans are helping Palestinians to lose their lands to israelis, they have helped Iraqis to overcome ISIS. You cannot make any sense, cut the crap
 
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Yeah the much Americans are helping Palestinians to lose their lands to israelis, they have helped Iraqis to overcome ISIS. You cannot make any sense, cut the crap

The guy that needs to cut the crap is you. You are like any other Middle Easterner involved with government that spreads propaganda and expects people to accept it. This is not Middle East where people can get in trouble for not accepting your narrative. You are no different than the Arabs who support their regimes with insanity. You are both different sides of same coin.

Everyone knows only US provide necessary firepower for Iraq and it did and it wasn't you. Not many people want to correct you because you're a waste of their time.
 
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The guy that needs to cut the crap is you. You are like any other Middle Easterner involved with government that spreads propaganda and expects people to accept it. This is not Middle East where people can get in trouble for not accepting your narrative. You are no different than the Arabs who support their regimes with insanity. You are both different sides of same coin.

Everyone knows only US provide necessary firepower for Iraq and it did and it wasn't you. Not many people want to correct you because you're a waste of their time.
USA is trying to have presence In Iraq and their support any kinds of support I mean, is due to higher hand of iraqi army on the battlefield. USA has never helped middle eastern people to overcome their own terrorism but managed terror groups to hold its geopolitical gains. Israel is one and main of those geopolitical gains. Why you cannot understand this simple fact that USA wants its domination in middle east? Denying all the sacrifices of Iranians and giving all the credit to Americans is unfair and angering thing.
 
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Having followed this campaign since 2014 closely, daily I can say that there's been times the US was idle and let IS advance whilst they could have stopped them. A very clear example of this is the fall of Ramadi in 2015, where a week before its fall previous US chief of staff Martin Dempsey stated in a television interview that 'Ramadi is not a priority, they can reclaim it later'. What followed was a massive IS convoy entering Ramadi as seen in the image below, the USAF could have leveled this.

IS entering Ramadi
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Until a point all serious USAF support was only for Kurds, that only changed once Russia began air operations in Syria. US-led coalition air support become more intense for the ISF which increased gradually, Mosul air support was maximum. IS could have been defeated quicker if not for all the political obstacles and strings that slowed down the process and costed many life's as well.

Without US involvement Arbil would have fallen to IS and the ISF would not have reclaimed Mosul yet, Baghdad would not have fallen but the situation would not be good. Another option was that we'd have seen Iranian troops in Iraq which would cause problems within Iraq. Initially (2014 and 2015) it was the PMU and ISOF which took the upper hand in operations, 2016 and onwards it was ISOF, the army and police units that took the upper hand which is due to US-led coalition restructuring and retraining of these forces. It has been a very effective effort obviously so importance of US contribution cannot be denied here.

ISOF has always been a very effective force, this once again is due to its proper formation, governance and maintenance of the force which is a US effort initially. Iraq has been too disorganized to do this alone without foreign help and that help better comes from the US rather than any neighboring country as that would meet strong disapproval from locals and neighbors have plans that undermine Iraq whereas the US has different interests.
 
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Having followed this campaign since 2014 closely, daily I can say that there's been times the US was idle and let US advance whilst they could have stopped them. A very clear example of this is the fall of Ramadi in 2015, where a week before its fall previous US chief of staff Martin Dempsey stated in a television interview that 'Ramadi is not an interview, they can reclaim it later'. What followed was a massive IS convoy entering Ramadi as seen in the image below, the USAF could have leveled this.

IS entering Ramadi
isis-in.jpg


Until a point all serious USAF support was only for Kurds, that only changed once Russia began air operations in Syria. US-led coalition air support become more intense for the ISF which increased gradually, Mosul air support was maximum. IS could have been defeated quicker if not for all the political obstacles and strings that slowed down the process and costed many life's as well.

Without US involvement Arbil would have fallen to IS and the ISF would not have reclaimed Mosul yet, Baghdad would not have fallen but the situation would not be good. Another option was that we'd have seen Iranian troops in Iraq which would cause problems within Iraq. Initially (2014 and 2015) it was the PMU and ISOF which took the upper hand in operations, 2016 and onwards it was ISOF, the army and police units that took the upper hand which is due to US-led coalition restructuring and retraining of these forces. It has been a very effective effort obviously so importance of US contribution cannot be denied here.

ISOF has always been a very effective force, this once again is due to its proper formation, governance and maintenance of the force which is a US effort initially. Iraq has been too disorganized to do this alone without foreign help and that help better comes from the US rather than any neighboring country as that would meet strong disapproval from locals and neighbors have plans that undermine Iraq whereas the US has different interests.

Good points, Iraq now is in a better political state and more organized on the ground. They need time to become an world class army but I don't think that is the goal right now and I don't know how they plan to modernize the army. If that is even a priority right now. Right now they the concern is securing the state which they are doing a good job of. Seems like terror bombings in Baghdad have really slowed down too.
 
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Good points, Iraq now is in a better political state and more organized on the ground. They need time to become an world class army but I don't think that is the goal right now and I don't know how they plan to modernize the army. If that is even a priority right now. Right now they the concern is securing the state which they are doing a good job of. Seems like terror bombings in Baghdad have really slowed down too.

There's financial problems to building a large conventional army and air force given all the need for reconstruction. It's a difficult neigbhorhood with threats from every side and within. The Kurdish problem is still there as well. Baghdad's safety increased immensely, bombings have become rare and small
 
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Having followed this campaign since 2014 closely, daily I can say that there's been times the US was idle and let US advance whilst they could have stopped them. A very clear example of this is the fall of Ramadi in 2015, where a week before its fall previous US chief of staff Martin Dempsey stated in a television interview that 'Ramadi is not an interview, they can reclaim it later'. What followed was a massive IS convoy entering Ramadi as seen in the image below, the USAF could have leveled this.

IS entering Ramadi
isis-in.jpg


Until a point all serious USAF support was only for Kurds, that only changed once Russia began air operations in Syria. US-led coalition air support become more intense for the ISF which increased gradually, Mosul air support was maximum. IS could have been defeated quicker if not for all the political obstacles and strings that slowed down the process and costed many life's as well.

Without US involvement Arbil would have fallen to IS and the ISF would not have reclaimed Mosul yet, Baghdad would not have fallen but the situation would not be good. Another option was that we'd have seen Iranian troops in Iraq which would cause problems within Iraq. Initially (2014 and 2015) it was the PMU and ISOF which took the upper hand in operations, 2016 and onwards it was ISOF, the army and police units that took the upper hand which is due to US-led coalition restructuring and retraining of these forces. It has been a very effective effort obviously so importance of US contribution cannot be denied here.

ISOF has always been a very effective force, this once again is due to its proper formation, governance and maintenance of the force which is a US effort initially. Iraq has been too disorganized to do this alone without foreign help and that help better comes from the US rather than any neighboring country as that would meet strong disapproval from locals and neighbors have plans that undermine Iraq whereas the US has different interests.
USA help for Kurds was also a part of American plan. Weakened Baghdad and an strong government in Erbil could be the outcome hence partitioning of iraq. Some folks likes to believe that ISIS fighters came from sky and had nothing to do with Sauds, not in my concern, but important fact is that ISIS mentality exists until Sauds are ruling in peninsula. So Iraq is always close to threat, white flags, ISIS, Nusra are potential threats to iraqi safety. Iranian supported groups are all guardians of iraqi lands, like the hezbollah of Lebanon, they try for iraqi safety, however they are ethnics of Iraq, raised by iraqi mothers and they have the credit of destroying ISIS, others came second to them.
 
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Basically its US and Iran behind Iraq regime, which it self operates death squads within Iraq.
 
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@Falcon29

Thanks for bringing some sanity into this forum. Scores of armchair mujahids here who are oblivious to the ground realities of various conflicts and act as propaganda-bots of their respective regimes. It wouldn't surprise me if some members are actually propaganda-bots.

ISIS movement grew to such proportions that it demoralized/routed Iraqi security forces from many regions and completely altered the course of conflict in Syria. No country had the necessary amount of firepower, precision munitions and logistics-capability to take on ISIS movement across Iraq and Syria; only US fit the bill and it delivered to this end (i.e. Operation Inherent Resolve).

American contribution to the war-effort against ISIS across the Middle East is absolutely invaluable. However, propaganda-bots here assume that ISIS evaporated into thin air just like that.

There is so much data on the web:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve
https://www.defense.gov/OIR/
http://www.centcom.mil/OPERATIONS-AND-EXERCISES/OPERATION-INHERENT-RESOLVE/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgv7fFrpktGrcJtanYifRYw/videos

The assets US brought to bear against ISIS since 2014:


Glimpses of US-led forces assaulting positions of ISIS in (and around) the city of MOSUL:



Glimpses of US-led forces assaulting positions of ISIS across Syria:




Somebody should ask these propaganda-bots that who was on the 'receiving-end' of such firepower? Zombies? Vampires? Russian troops? :rolleyes:

@TheCamelGuy

Bro,

These conflicts are POLITICS-DRIVEN in large part; numerous bureaucratic, political, economic and vested interests come into play.
 
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@Falcon29

Thanks for bringing some sanity into this forum. Scores of armchair mujahids here who are oblivious to the ground realities of various conflicts and act as propaganda-bots of their respective regimes. It wouldn't surprise me if some members are actually propaganda-bots.

ISIS movement grew to such proportions that it demoralized/routed Iraqi security forces from many regions and completely altered the course of conflict in Syria. No country had the necessary amount of firepower, precision munitions and logistics-capability to take on ISIS movement across Iraq and Syria; only US fit the bill and it struck hard to this end (i.e. Operation Inherent Resolve).

American contribution to the war-effort against ISIS across the Middle East is absolutely invaluable. However, propaganda-bots here assume that ISIS evaporated into thin air just like that.

There is so much data on the web:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Inherent_Resolve
https://www.defense.gov/OIR/
http://www.centcom.mil/OPERATIONS-AND-EXERCISES/OPERATION-INHERENT-RESOLVE/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgv7fFrpktGrcJtanYifRYw/videos

The assets US brought to bear against ISIS since 2014:


Glimpses of US-led forces assaulting positions of ISIS in (and around) the city of MOSUL:



Glimpses of US-led forces assaulting positions of ISIS across Syria:




Somebody should ask these propaganda-bots that who was on the receiving end of such firepower? Zombies? Vampires? Russian troops? :rolleyes:

Americans were angels and I didn't know it. Americans supported Saddam, Americans overthrew Saddam with fake excuse. Am I missing something? USA is as trustworthy as a hungry hyena in deep jungle. Sorry for bursting your bubble but Iraq was invaded by Americans. At its best they want an other Saddam in Iraq to wage war against his own neighbors that have bad relations with USA bully regime. Then conduct false flag operations and blame it on Iraqis hence invading Iraq, destroying it, and helping ISIS alike groups to destroy Iraq, oh Americans helped Iraqis. Iraq should have never accepted help of that bully regime but they did and ISIS owed its long life In Iraq to its American creators. Remember air drops in ISIS held areas, only by American mistake?

USA parasite regime claimed of fighting against terrorism In Afghanistan, how many years and what was the outcome? Opium production broke the roof, CIA has a large benefit from opium trade, and terrorism just shifts from Talis to ISIS thanks to American airborne of ISIS fighters into Afghanistan.

I am not a blinded idiot who worships American white supremacists, I can think, and I can see the truth that's why I am the bad dangerous guy.
 
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USA help for Kurds was also a part of American plan. Weakened Baghdad and an strong government in Erbil could be the outcome hence partitioning of iraq. Some folks likes to believe that ISIS fighters came from sky and had nothing to do with Sauds, not in my concern, but important fact is that ISIS mentality exists until Sauds are ruling in peninsula. So Iraq is always close to threat, white flags, ISIS, Nusra are potential threats to iraqi safety. Iranian supported groups are all guardians of iraqi lands, like the hezbollah of Lebanon, they try for iraqi safety, however they are ethnics of Iraq, raised by iraqi mothers and they have the credit of destroying ISIS, others came second to them.

Partitioning Iraq is not in US interests. They favor Baghdad over Arbil in the end, Kurds just please them all the time but are not significant enough for the US to drop Baghdad. Iran supported PMU and provided some jets but does not have the capabilities to provide the support that the US has provided, which is mainly air support. This air support is very costly as well, operational costs are in the billions of USD.

US military presence on several Iraqi bases mainly (Al Asad, Qayyarah, Taqqadum and Taiji base) has been useful, if they leave after 5 to 10 years the ISF will be a lot more capable than them leaving now. Iran has different intererests but when IS comes and blows up entire cities it won't be Iranians being killed. As ofr Iraqi politicians that are barking about it they should base their arguments on the readiness of the ISF rather than anything else. It's a greater risk for the ISF if the US departs from bases at this moment.
 
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