Iraq condemns Turkey's FM

[atatwolf]

What iraqi ground. The borders Are artificial made on a desk by French and the britts.
The Kurds have lived there for more than 2000 years. And it's natural that they whant to speak there own language on there ansestors grounds.

Kurds exist until the times of Jesus? 2000 years? hahaahahahahaah

People should learn history before speaking. First Kurds came into being in 13th century. Kurds never had lands. They were thrown out of Iran.

 

[explorer9]

People should & must remember the outcome of referendum in Hatay province and its merger in to the Turkish Republic. It seems that history will repeat again in the Levant with major long term gain for predominantly Sunnite regional power; Turkey.

 

[Syrian Lion]

I see some Turkish members here support Kurdistan Iraq, but I have to ask them do they support Kurdistan Turkey? what hypocrisy is this? support freedom for Kurds in Iraq, but not in Turkey? Do you think the Kurds will not act to make their own territory in Turkey?

Turkey is playing the wrong game, Turkey should not make enemies with its neighbors ( official states) Turkey should focus on making allies with its neighbors better then the west, because the west goal is not to support Turkey, but Israel, they uses Turkey for Israel benefits.

And i would like to add Turkey is hosting a wanted terrorists, that's not good.

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

Kurds exist until the times of Jesus? 2000 years? hahaahahahahaah

People should learn history before speaking. First Kurds came into being in 13th century. Kurds never had lands. They were thrown out of Iran.

Remember the Turkmen.. The Sultan kicked them out to Fatamid Egypt and Iraq because they were not sunni.. Another why religion and politics put together is bull

I see some Turkish members here support Kurdistan Iraq, but I have to ask them do they support Kurdistan Turkey? what hypocrisy is this? support freedom for Kurds in Iraq, but not in Turkey? Do you think the Kurds will not act to make their own territory in Turkey?

Turkey is playing the wrong game, Turkey should not make enemies with its neighbors ( official states) Turkey should focus on making allies with its neighbors better then the west, because the west goal is not to support Turkey, but Israel, they uses Turkey for Israel benefits.

And i would like to add Turkey is hosting a wanted terrorists, that's not good.

Oh stupid excuses and conspricy. The Isreali know the FSA is full of radical nutters, its hardly in their interest to ecourage such a coup. And we only want investment in the north because it gives stability and progress. And most turk don't care about the sad case arabs have with their semitic cousins. Make peace and move on. Japan losed much of her native islands and got nuked, they moved on. Same with the koreans.

 

[Serpentine]

Kurds exist until the times of Jesus? 2000 years? hahaahahahahaah

People should learn history before speaking. First Kurds came into being in 13th century. Kurds never had lands. They were thrown out of Iran.

That's hell of a big lie.Before Turks migrate to ME from Mongolia and Central Asia,Kurds were living here.Kurds are here as long as Iranians are here.Why are you trying to manipulate history?
From Wikipedia:

The ancient Turks were overwhelmingly nomadic, with a strong interest in trade, and were mostly Shamanists, although others were also adherents of Manichaeism, Nestorian Christianity, or, especially, Buddhism.[85] However, during the Muslim conquests, the Turks entered the Muslim world proper as slaves, the booty of Arab raids and conquests.[85] The Turks began converting to Islam through the efforts of missionaries, Sufis, and merchants. Although initiated by the Arabs, the conversion of the Turks to Islam was filtered through Persian and Central Asian culture. Under the Umayyads, most were domestic slaves, whilst under the Abbasids, increasing numbers were trained as soldiers.[85] By the ninth century, Turkish commanders were leading the caliphs’ Turkish troops into battle. As the Abbasid caliphate declined, Turkish officers assumed more military and political power taking over or establishing provincial dynasties with their own corps of Turkish troops

Kurds:

The Kurds as an ethnic group appear in the medieval period. The Kurdish people are believed to be of heterogenous origins combining a number of earlier tribal or ethnic groups[38] including Median, Lullubi, Guti, Cyrtians, Carduchi

Most of the ethnic groups mentioned above,were living in ME from more than 2000 years ago.So next time,go read some more books.
And for your information,Kurds were not kicked out of Iran,they were living in Iranian empires which at the time,included parts of Turkey,almost all Iraq and parts of Syria.Until those areas were separated from Iran.All Iranians including Kurds have lived together peacefully for thousands of years,and no one ever is forced out of the country/empire.

 

[Serpentine]

Where is here? Kurds were living in Persian land not in Byzantine land you Iranian half-breed. Try to read a book. Kurdish identity has first formed in 13th century. Before that god knows who they were, Arab, Persian, Gypsy, God knows.

How desperate,can you bring any proof for your lies?That's the most stupid lie.Kurds are not new in this region.You can not change history by manipulating it.
As I admitted,Kurds did live in Persian lands,but today,they are no more our lands,They are shared between Iran,Turkey,Iraq and Syria.This is the map of Byzantine empire at its greatest extent,can you tell me in which part of the empire Kurds lived?The parts that Kurds live today,Southeast Turkey,north Iraq,northeast Syria were never a part of Byzantine empire.

Now who needs to read books?
btw,by insulting and name calling,you show very well that how you unable to back your claim.

 

[Cerian]

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[atatwolf]

Now who needs to read books?

Who needs to read books? You! You said that Kurds exist 2000 years hahaahahahahahahahaha.

Byzantine territory is Turkish territory today. That is the end of it. I don't know what your problem is, you are making problems yourself and then whine.

Kurds are Iranian gypsy. Never had land. Never had an empire. These are the facts. Take it or leave it.

 

[Surenas]

Kurds are Iranian gypsy. Never had land. Never had an empire. These are the facts. Take it or leave it.

You are such a fool that you even can't see the contradiction in your own messages. By stating that Kurds are Iranian you acknowledge that they are part of the Iranian branch of people who migrated to the Iranian plateau more than 2000 years ago. Approximately 1200 BC to be precisely.

 

[Serpentine]

Who needs to read books? You! You said that Kurds exist 2000 years hahaahahahahahahahaha.

Byzantine territory is Turkish territory today. That is the end of it. I don't know what your problem is, you are making problems yourself and then whine.

Kurds are Iranian gypsy. Never had land. Never had an empire. These are the facts. Take it or leave it.

You changed the topic when you saw you can't answer?
It wasn't about Kurdish empires or lands,it was about who has been here for a longer time,and indeed,Kurds were living here before Turks come to region from Mongolia and Centra Asia,though,Kurds didn't have a major empire,but that doesn't change the truth.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

I see some Turkish members here support Kurdistan Iraq, but I have to ask them do they support Kurdistan Turkey? what hypocrisy is this? support freedom for Kurds in Iraq, but not in Turkey?

Those who do are nationalist hypocrites like Zulkarneyn who pretend to be civilized and peaceful when they are full of hatred towards other nations and peoples. It's actually good that they eventually reveal their true face.

You changed the topic when you saw you can't answer?
It wasn't about Kurdish empires or lands,it was about who has been here for a longer time,and indeed,Kurds were living here before Turks come to region from Mongolia and Centra Asia,though,Kurds didn't have a major empire,but that doesn't change the truth.

Kurds were in Anatolia prior to Turks, but most "Turks" are actually the same people who had been living in the region called Turkey today for thousands of years.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Those who do are nationalist hypocrites like Zulkarneyn who pretend to be civilized and peaceful when they are full of hatred towards other nations and peoples. It's actually good that they eventually reveal their true face.


Kurds were in Anatolia prior to Turks, but most "Turks" are actually the same people who had been living in the region called Turkey today for thousands of years.

Will you be more specific in your insults and tell me which country i am hateful against?
Before blinding yourself with further chestpumping and nationality, i want to ask you an honest question: How do you serve your country and countrymen?
Have you ever helped young Turks in Holland with their future life? Helped them advance their education? Helped them with their problems at home? Or taught them anything?

The last 6-7 years of my life i have voluntarily (without any payment other than just knowing that what i do will help these people for the rest of their lives, which is enough for me) spent my time beside my own education with their hardship. I have sacrificed my own education today and i am 2-3 years behind because of that. I don't regret what i have done one bit. Because making a difference on these young people will change their perception. I value inputs from people on diverse subjects, but what you are demonstrating here is the growth of hatred within yourself, which i find very sad. You may have had a rough life with a problematic environment and obviously that must have effected you. But learning is never too late.

And i won't insult you the same way you insulted me. I am past that.

Lastly, i am probably the least nationalist Turkish person on this forum. that said i am still a patriot and would gladly die for my country.

 

[Targon]

Why you guys saying Turks come from Mongolia ? where we came from was called Turkestan, more clearly, Oghuz Turks came from east of Caspian sea and around of Aral lake.

 

[cabatli_53]

You know Turkey's Essed policies to strike a dictator down, Turkey is supporting/coordinating FSA from somewhere from a South Province of Turkey (Some serious sources stated) (This process have been accelerated after Syria shot Turkey's F-4 down), While the Hatay province is the medical center of FSA soldiers. At present,The FSA leader demands some missiles and AA systems from Turkey.
Erdo

After Syria, Turkey targetted Maliki government in Irak ?

Sunni opposition leader, Hasimi who has been called as terorist to be punished by Maliki, has been protected by Turkey.

It is really strange but Turkey is fully supporting Kurdish state of Irak. To taking control of Kurd state in accordance with Turkey's benefits, While driving Maliki into corner more, Turkey is arranging lots of visits, giving monetary support, rebuilding the cities. The Kurd state taking support of Turkey, feel free to reject What Maliki directed to them in many fields.

Recent days, Turkey arranged a new visit to Iraki Kurd state and visited Kerkuk as If Kerkuk is a Turkish state without asking the central government.

At present, Maliki's strongest opposition and El Iraki coalition leader and old PM of Irak, Iyad Allavi is in Turkey.

 

[explorer9]

Who needs to read books? You! You said that Kurds exist 2000 years hahaahahahahahahahaha.

Byzantine territory is Turkish territory today. That is the end of it. I don't know what your problem is, you are making problems yourself and then whine.

Kurds are Iranian gypsy. Never had land. Never had an empire. These are the facts. Take it or leave it.

have you heard the name of Sultan Saladin Ayyubi ? read the preliminary history book first. The ethnic division between predominantly Sunnite Turks & Kurds only surfaced after the emergence of of Turkish Republic and the Kemalist were responsible for that menace.