Iran's Revolutionary Guards Blame Saudi Arabia for Attack on Parliament, Khomeini Shrine

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Nukes don't mean jack as they will most certainly not going to be used.
The only area which pakistan can be said to be more advanced is air force other than that, what do you have?

What do we not have or which Pak equipment is inferior to Iranian ?
We have almost a thousands tanks like AK-1,T-80UD/84

Not even including AZs etc.
Or they thousands of other tanks and IFVs.

Almost 500 M-109A5s

Home production of MLRS

Thousands of arty pieces.

60 Gunships and 20+ Light attack helis

And much more.

Iran is much more self sufficient than pakistan, has a vastly superior air defence capability, vastly better drone fleet etc etc. Doe pakistan even have submarines?

This pakistan is far superior. Don't make laughable claims.

Yes we have around 8 submarines and 8 in order, excluding 5? midget submarines. All produced under license.

And we also have SLCMs etc.




We also have over a dozen ASW MPAs.. PC-3s and upgraded ATRs.

And 8 AWACS, with 3 more in order.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Nukes don't mean jack as they will most certainly not going to be used.
The only area which pakistan can be said to be more advanced is air force other than that, what do you have?
Iran is much more self sufficient than pakistan, has a vastly superior air defence capability, vastly better drone fleet etc etc. Doe pakistan even have submarines?

This pakistan is far superior. I am sorry but don't make laughable claims.

lol you are an ignorant runt.

Pakistan has the Agosta 90b submarines with ToT.

You clearly do not know what you talking about Indian trash.

 

[Rukarl]

What do we not have or which Pak equipment is inferior to Iranian ?

Your air defence is much, much weaker than Iran's. Your radar capability, your drone capability, your anti ship capabilities.

Yes we have around 8 submarines and 8 in order, excluding midget submarines.
We also have over a dozen ASW MPAs.. PC-3s and upgraded ATRs.

And 8 AWACS, with 3 more in order.

Most of which are imported. You can't seriously compare what Iran is producing itself to what you're importing.
Also Iran has had SLCM for years, that's nothing.

I don't want to demean our pakistani friends, but don't make claims like you're vastly superior to Iran.

lol you are an ignorant runt.

Pakistan has the Agosta 90b submarines with ToT.

You clearly do not know what you talking about Indian trash.

1- I am not Indian.
2- You cannot build submarines otherwise you would not be importing Chinese systems.

 

[Super Falcon]

I'm seeing a third party in this

 

[925boy]

People in PDF hate Iran so much, they derailed(and love) bashing Iran instead of discussing the main point on the thread.lol.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Your air defence is much, much weaker than Iran's Iran.

Not sure, we do operate HQ Series SAM,LY-80 LOMADs,FN-90s,SPADA 2000s etc.

And home grown ANZA series MANPADS.

For low level defence we have automated AAGs.

Your radar capability, your drone capability, your anti ship capabilities.

What radar capability? We exported radars to Jordan recently.. we have 8 AWACS (3 more on order). Ground radars etc are all met centric..


Drones, we operate MALE UCAVs but yes we don't have something like Global Hawk.

Anti ship ? You joking bro.

We produce C series anti ship missiles (which you call Noor).
We have Zarb Anti ship batteries
We have recently tested a new anti ship variant of Babur CM. which can be launched from ship,sub and land platforms.

All of which are imported. You can't seriously compare what Iran is producing itself to what you're importing.

We produced them under license and have added Pak sub systems on them.

And pardon me brother, but they are more advanced than the midget subs Iran uses.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Your air defence is much, much weaker than Iran's. Your radar capability, your drone capability, your anti ship capabilities.



Most of which are imported. You can't seriously compare what Iran is producing itself to what you're importing.
Also Iran has had SLCM for years, that's nothing.



1- I am not Indian.
2- You cannot build submarines otherwise you would not be importing Chinese systems.

Pakistan has transfer of technology of Agosta 70 and Agosta 90b submarines.

You dont know jack!

For an American you seem quite pro Iranian even though Iran and USA are enemies.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Your air defence is much, much weaker than Iran's. Your radar capability, your drone capability, your anti ship capabilities.



Most of which are imported. You can't seriously compare what Iran is producing itself to what you're importing.
Also Iran has had SLCM for years, that's nothing.

I don't want to demean our pakistani friends, but don't make claims like you're vastly superior to Iran.



1- I am not Indian.
2- You cannot build submarines otherwise you would not be importing Chinese systems.

Bro, no Iranian sub is capable to launch a sub launched cruise missile.

Maybe new besaat class will.

 

[Rukarl]

Not sure, we do operate HQ Series SAM,LY-80 LOMADs,FN-90s,SPADA 2000s etc.

And home grown ANZA series MANPADS.

For low level defence we have automated AAGs.

They're imported small- medium range SAM's. Meanwhile Iran operated an integrated air defence systems comprising of numerous medium and long range systems.

What radar capability? We exported radars to Jordan recently.. we have 8 AWACS (3 more on order). Ground radars etc are all met centric..

Iran is producing numerous ground based AESA radars, also OTH radars, does pakistan have anything near this capability?

Drones, we operate MALE UCAVs but yes we don't have something like Global Hawk.

Sorry but only drones you have are imported/licenses chinese drones..

Anti ship ? You joking bro.

We produce C series anti ship missiles (which you call Noor).
We have Zarb Anti ship batteries
We have recently tested a new anti ship variant of Babur CM. which can be launched from ship,sub and land platforms.

Iran has such capability plus anti ships ballistic missile. Something which Pakistan is nowhere near possessing.

We produced them under license and have added Pak sub systems on them.

And pardon me brother, but they are more advanced than the midget subs Iran uses.

Iran has made 600 ton submarines and is building 1200 ton submarine. Those are hardly midget submarines. What's important is that Iran is building them and not relying on imports...

 

[MultaniGuy]

They're imported small- medium range SAM's. Meanwhile Iran operated an integrated air defence systems comprising of numerous medium and long range systems.




Iran is producing numerous ground based AESA radars, also OTH radars, does pakistan have anything near this capability?



Sorry but only drones you have are imported/licenses chinese drones..



Iran has such capability plus anti ships ballistic missile. Something which Pakistan is nowhere near possessing.




Iran has made 600 ton submarines and is building 1200 ton submarine. Those are hardly midget submarines. What's important is that Iran is building them and not relying on imports...

Pakistan has a more advanced MBT than Iran does.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

then why allah does not calm the situation in libya, yemen, syria, iraq etc, why allah let India win wars against you or why allah let Hindus defeat arab muslims in battle of rajasthan? why allah let qarmatians occupy and insult mecca and steal the black stone, while we read birds would stone the invaders of kaaba, why allah let israel win wars against arab muslims and keep humiliating them?

Why Allah let India win wars against you or why Allah let Hindus defeat arab muslims in battle of Rajasthan?
Simple.
God helps those who help themselves.

 

[mangekyo]

I wasnt responding to you there. It was to someone else. I never said anything about Iran or Turks living in Iran, it was just a reply to someone else about Selcuks.

Thats not what I meant, Seljuks were Iranian. Yes they were turks, but they were still Iranian. When you say that they were Turkish, it means that they were from the country that is now called Turkey, and they were not.

I dont know the full story about Turks from Iran and Turkey and how much blood we share, but anyway, Seljuks were Iranian turks, not Turkish turks.

 

[Rukarl]

Pakistan has a more advanced MBT than Iran does.

Erm no, no it does not. You trying to have a laugh, aren't you?

Iran has its T-90ms analogue and will add its APS to them in future.

Although they will need few years to get their numbers up.

 

[Asghar1234]

We are neutral in the conflict between Iran and KSA..

But yes provocative statements by Iranian leaders and border shellings have a negative impact on people.

And still we are the most pro Iran country in the world.

Iran is popular in Pakistan, overwhelmingly disliked everywhere else



By Max Fisher


Let's suppose, tomorrow Iran is attacked by USA (hypothetically speaking), Pakistanis would support Iran.

When terrorists from Pakistani side martyr our soldiers there is no way other than shooting them. We know Saudis are behind such terrorist attacks and Pakistanis (sometimes) close their eyes toward them as are close allies with Saudis.

We really love Pakistanis too. No other nation on earth is closer to us more then Pakistanis. In every aspect we are close to each other. Inshallah Pakistan become a developed country soon.

Saudi is a cancer in the world. It is making tensions between countries. Not even to mention how many bloody wars and civil wars they have created. Btw If it wasn't American support they couldn't last for 2 weeks. I pray these Zionist satanic powers USA, Israel and Saudi end up and these dark ages finish. Saudis are Yazeeds of our era. Btw Yazeed wasn't that wild to kill Yemeni children that wildly in ramadan and none ramadan months.

 

[Imad.Khan]

First of all let me start by asking everyone to stop insulting each other and have a rational dialogue.

Secondly i would like to look at this situation from a broader perspective. There is one question that need to be addressed first

Who benefits most by an Iran-Saudi war?

There are also other questions that will be a consequence of a war between the 2 countries

1. Will the war turn into a sectarian conflict?
2. Will the war be limited to just the 2 countries or will it escalate and involve other countries?
3. If it does become a sectarian conflict who will be the beneficiary of this conflict?

Now i am not a fan of the house of Saud nor do i like the Mullahs of Iran. My reason for disliking them both is that because of them, there is so much turmoil in all the Muslim countries. Both countries have tried to spread their influence on other Muslim countries, Saudis by spreading their Wahabi agenda and Iranians using Shia Pakistanis and Afghans in Zainebiyoun Brigade.

But i do understand that a conflict between the 2 countries will have a far reaching consequences and they will only benefit those that are NOT friends of Muslims.