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cant trust mir jafar.I can help you put him behind bars.
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cant trust mir jafar.I can help you put him behind bars.
Well, you know that it is not going to happen. Pakistan won't accept. But we can do operation on our own and that's the best.
Buddy u may believe me or u may not.@hassan zohaib I would have believed you but when you tagged @gulbhukhari in you tweet. I am more pissed at you than Iran.
You might not know this but they have great experiance with internal security and probably are only second to Turks in have extremely regulated country with the Iranian states writ extending to every corner of the country. Iranian state like Pakistan [Turkey included] are hotch potch of peoples. The differance between Turkey, Iran and Pakistan is the former have used massive force and repression to integrate the satellite regions with the core of the country. The Jandarma in Turkey at one point turned that country into a garrison state. Nothing could move. The Kurds who are a Iranic people and related to Pashtuns came under extreme measures. Attempts were made to erase Kurdish language, Kurish names had to be Turkified so foe insteance Omid [Umid] became Ummit and Turkish surnamnes had to be accepted. A near on full scale insurgency ensued and which still presists but the Turkish state used iron fist.You're wrong. They've great Anti Terror exp. They've dealt with terrorists across the border.
You might not know this but they have great experiance with internal security and probably are only second to Turks in have extremely regulated country with the Iranian states writ extending to every corner of the country. Iranian state like Pakistan [Turkey included] are hotch potch of peoples. The differance between Turkey, Iran and Pakistan is the former have used massive force and repression to integrate the satellite regions with the core of the country. The Jandarma in Turkey at one point turned that country into a garrison state. Nothing could move. The Kurds who are a Iranic people and related to Pashtuns came under extreme measures. Attempts were made to erase Kurdish language, Kurish names had to be Turkified so foe insteance Omid [Umid] became Ummit and Turkish surnamnes had to be accepted. A near on full scale insurgency ensued and which still presists but the Turkish state used iron fist.
Ditto for Iran. Under the Shah all peoples [they had their version of tribals] were forced to integrate and accept Farsi. This also applied to Kurds who rebelled many times but were crushed. The Baloch in Iran compared to Pakistan are far more subdued. I would characterize the Turkish state as a castle made of concrete, the Iranian state a castle made of wood and the Pakistani state made of sand that just dissolves at the slightest wind blowing as we saw in the TLP fiasco lately.
The fact is large parts of Pakistan including even cities like Karach had or have areas with nominal state writ where all the scum of the earth can take refuge. Osama, other Al-Qaida figures are examplars of this. There are Afghan refugees in Iran. Find out how well they are regulated and documenmted compared to Pakistan which is a free for all - every bandit makes beeline for Pakistan.
That is why Pakistan needs to sell off 80% of the navy and even cut back on conventional forces in PA like armour - we freakin are most emphatically not going to have long drawn out slugging match with India. Not with the nukes. The saved resources needs to be spent buying 1,000s of MPRAPs, AFVs, 8 wheelers, trucks, light prop aircraft like Tucano and then recruit 800,000 young men from the millions idling about or scratching their crotches. I mean we have huge population as a resouce. And then this force should swamp every corner of the country to provide overwheming writ of the state - particularly outlying regions like Balochistan.
Completely agree.You might not know this but they have great experiance with internal security and probably are only second to Turks in have extremely regulated country with the Iranian states writ extending to every corner of the country. Iranian state like Pakistan [Turkey included] are hotch potch of peoples. The differance between Turkey, Iran and Pakistan is the former have used massive force and repression to integrate the satellite regions with the core of the country. The Jandarma in Turkey at one point turned that country into a garrison state. Nothing could move. The Kurds who are a Iranic people and related to Pashtuns came under extreme measures. Attempts were made to erase Kurdish language, Kurish names had to be Turkified so foe insteance Omid [Umid] became Ummit and Turkish surnamnes had to be accepted. A near on full scale insurgency ensued and which still presists but the Turkish state used iron fist.
Ditto for Iran. Under the Shah all peoples [they had their version of tribals] were forced to integrate and accept Farsi. This also applied to Kurds who rebelled many times but were crushed. The Baloch in Iran compared to Pakistan are far more subdued. I would characterize the Turkish state as a castle made of concrete, the Iranian state a castle made of wood and the Pakistani state made of sand that just dissolves at the slightest wind blowing as we saw in the TLP fiasco lately.
The fact is large parts of Pakistan including even cities like Karach had or have areas with nominal state writ where all the scum of the earth can take refuge. Osama, other Al-Qaida figures are examplars of this. There are Afghan refugees in Iran. Find out how well they are regulated and documenmted compared to Pakistan which is a free for all - every bandit makes beeline for Pakistan.
That is why Pakistan needs to sell off 80% of the navy and even cut back on conventional forces in PA like armour - we freakin are most emphatically not going to have long drawn out slugging match with India. Not with the nukes. The saved resources needs to be spent buying 1,000s of MPRAPs, AFVs, 8 wheelers, trucks, light prop aircraft like Tucano and then recruit 800,000 young men from the millions idling about or scratching their crotches. I mean we have huge population as a resouce. And then this force should swamp every corner of the country to provide overwheming writ of the state - particularly outlying regions like Balochistan.
That's a false conspiracy. If you said Iran was Russia's pawn I m8ghtve given you a maybe.Not this time.Iran is US pawn, speaking US language, cannot secure their own border and wants Pakistan to secure it.
Buddy u may believe me or u may not.
I put an argument which,upto my understanding, was concrete n if u really wanna me 2 agree wd u then u have 2 put an argument stronger than mine.
Btw, persons i mentioned in my tweet, i usually mention them bcz I don't know other ppl much over there.
Well if we let Iran today, then Afghanistan and India will also make such demands.. so can you in your right mind think about letting that happen?Mate we never know what is going to happen, such stuff is highly kept clandestine because we receive $$$ from Gulf States and they're not gonna like it.
You're putting a wrong comparison my friend. Iran offered to operate in a desert while you're asking to operate in a port. They've already taken care of RAW network in Sistan. We already lack the strength and can't put regular troops at the Iranian Border. I hope you get my point.
LOL
Koni Wazir
anti Pakistan lobby is active in iran
Just 2 days ago state television was showing Farsi Dubbed veerzara bollywood movie
Radio Pakistan should listen to the PressTV briefing in OP.
iranians should say something new for a changeIranian interior minister threatens pakistan 4 not doing actions against Terrorist hiding in Pakistan.
Question is y n how will v respond 2 such threatening calls.?
Do v need 2 put our house 1st in order?
N plz shed light on this, some ppl say u can't open front in ur neighborhood, u can't fight wd all of ur neighbors, so if ur neighbors r belligerent n aggressive then u will still remain defensive or u will think 2 rapproach wd neighbors?
Ur opinions r highly appreciated.
What do you propose it should be?You know what I despise most? People who lie as brazenly as you. You are a cheat a low down teller of untruths. I was actually surprised that Iranian's would do this so I took the effort to listen the minister on the link you provided. Here is what he said -
At no point does the minister threaten Pakistan. I suggest members click on the link.
- Iran is in talks with Pakistani officials have been promising in co-operating on the border security.
- Iran is ready to target the terrorists across the border with Pakistan and if Pakistan gives permission alone.
@Dubious Could you please look into this and correct the title as it is misleading and intended to cause trouble using fabricated lies.