Iranian UAVs | News and Discussions

[xbat]

Don't be so salty, it is what it is. Considering the sanctions on Iran, it's obvious why Turkey would want to keep this under wraps, however there's much that goes on behind closed doors.

When indians reveal their HAL Dhruv heli, they were saying "Turkey interested our helo " (5-6 years ago) but we knew quality standarts of Turkish army is very high, there is no possibility to accept low quality product, even Turkish companies struggle to get acceptance.

Turkish Engine Industry (TEI) %49 GE, %51 Turkish, make aviation engines for Turkey and worldwide, %50 of Civilian and military aircrafts of this planet has TEI engine parts. TEI makes Anka engine(170hp), Bayraktar engine and Heron engine(115hp) , and small engines for small drones including jet,turboprop and piston. AFAIK Iran still uses Rotax engine for their big drones.

We have also KALE for missile propulsion, they have turbojet engine with 3.2 kn and serially manufacturing is just starting.

Incoming UAV projects will have their local engines, AKINCI will BE powered TEI made PD220 and later TEI TP450. Anka2 will have TEI made PD220 , etc.

I cant find a place for Iran made engines in Turkish Aviation industry, if anything is secret it is secret! Iranian media cant report it. let alone quality issues. Last time when you bomb north iraq, your missiles dropped in Iranian territory, we notice that.

 

[scythian500]

your missiles dropped in Iranian territory, we notice that.

seriously!?

 

[xbat]

seriously!?

Yes see below and check the link https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/brea...-missiles-to-northeast-of-iraq.576468/page-10

Of all 7 Missiles 2 of them completely failed, 2 were direct hits and likely used more advanced version that had a CEP of under 10 meters at 250km & the rest all landed within 50 meters of the target which likely puts them within ~20 meters of their intended CEP because Iran wouldn't have used it's most advanced versions against those targets

 

[Raghfarm007]

Turks cant even make car engines.....never mind plane engines.

 

[sha ah]

Why r u so triggered & salty ? Iran & Turkey are neighbors & neighbors trade with each other. Do you think that the Turkish military reveals all of their activities & purchases to the public, especially when Iran is under harsh sanctions & the Turkish public would show a negative reactive to this ? Honestly, seeing your reaction & the reaction of other Turks when shown this article, it's obvious why the Turkish military would keep this under wraps.

In regards to Iran's missiles, we saw how Iran's missiles hit Kurdish rebel headquarters in Koya, striking the exact room where the leaders were holding a meeting. Since then that group has avoided attacking Iran's borders.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1038777810922471425

When indians reveal their HAL Dhruv heli, they were saying "Turkey interested our helo " (5-6 years ago) but we knew quality standarts of Turkish army is very high, there is no possibility to accept low quality product, even Turkish companies struggle to get acceptance.

Turkish Engine Industry (TEI) %49 GE, %51 Turkish, make aviation engines for Turkey and worldwide, %50 of Civilian and military aircrafts of this planet has TEI engine parts. TEI makes Anka engine(170hp), Bayraktar engine and Heron engine(115hp) , and small engines for small drones including jet,turboprop and piston. AFAIK Iran still uses Rotax engine for their big drones.

We have also KALE for missile propulsion, they have turbojet engine with 3.2 kn and serially manufacturing is just starting.

Incoming UAV projects will have their local engines, AKINCI will BE powered TEI made PD220 and later TEI TP450. Anka2 will have TEI made PD220 , etc.

I cant find a place for Iran made engines in Turkish Aviation industry, if anything is secret it is secret! Iranian media cant report it. let alone quality issues. Last time when you bomb north iraq, your missiles dropped in Iranian territory, we notice that.

 

[yavar]

Iran's first wide-body jet combat drone UCAV dubbed Khodkar

 

[WinterNights]

When indians reveal their HAL Dhruv heli, they were saying "Turkey interested our helo " (5-6 years ago) but we knew quality standarts of Turkish army is very high, there is no possibility to accept low quality product, even Turkish companies struggle to get acceptance.

Turkish Engine Industry (TEI) %49 GE, %51 Turkish, make aviation engines for Turkey and worldwide, %50 of Civilian and military aircrafts of this planet has TEI engine parts. TEI makes Anka engine(170hp), Bayraktar engine and Heron engine(115hp) , and small engines for small drones including jet,turboprop and piston. AFAIK Iran still uses Rotax engine for their big drones.

We have also KALE for missile propulsion, they have turbojet engine with 3.2 kn and serially manufacturing is just starting.

Incoming UAV projects will have their local engines, AKINCI will BE powered TEI made PD220 and later TEI TP450. Anka2 will have TEI made PD220 , etc.

I cant find a place for Iran made engines in Turkish Aviation industry, if anything is secret it is secret! Iranian media cant report it. let alone quality issues. Last time when you bomb north iraq, your missiles dropped in Iranian territory, we notice that.

You have the IQ of a donkey. Minus some missiles which may malfunction (happens in every nation) and are caused to self destruct, the "bodies" of missiles that may fall in certain nations are nothing but the various stages of these ballistic missile. Furthermore, Iran has proven it's missile capacity time and time again after showing the likes of small buildings being targeted from 100's of miles away.

As for turkish have high quality standards, according to who? you turks yourselves? until you actually test your systems properly like Iran does in real combat, then don't talk crap.

 

[Draco.IMF]

Iran's Newest 'Homemade' Drone Is An Unmanned Conversion Of A 1940s American Jet Trainer

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ed-conversion-of-a-1940s-american-jet-trainer

 

[PeeD]

- Note that the 60% scale Saeghe-2 is able to carry two Sadid PGMs while the full scale S-171 carriers 4 (of a different, somewhat larger variant).

If max. range, Vmax and long range targeting capability is not the requirement, this is a amazingly elegant solution: No need for runway operation and no need for a larger expensive jet engine.
Only setback could be the lifetime of the micro Jet engine which could be a turbofan based on available photos.

The propeller driven Saeghe-1 can even carry the 4 Sadid of the S-171. However its lower speed means it can't work well with a S-171 doing the targeting and has only a friction of the strike turnaround time.

The expendable swarm concept behind this all is amazing. It only gets effective if you produce all of its parts locally (including the engine) and at a low price.

Interestingly Saeghe-2 and S-171 both only have a Sadid variant without optical guidance, a variant with a mmW seeker like the Brimstone. A great technology addition. It might be due to the autonomous operation mode when data-link is not available. In that case the computer logic of the missile strikes the most likely target independently.

 

[sanel1412]

Iran's Newest 'Homemade' Drone Is An Unmanned Conversion Of A 1940s American Jet Trainer

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ed-conversion-of-a-1940s-american-jet-trainer

Well that is clear,they think they discovered America but actually in description at exibition you can see that it is T-33 conversion,also in Press Tv article you can find details about conversion but those idiots are presenting it like they discovered water on mars

 

[PeeD]

- Note that the 60% scale Saeghe-2 is able to carry two Sadid PGMs while the full scale S-171 carriers 4 (of a different, somewhat larger variant).

If max. range, Vmax and long range targeting capability is not the requirement, this is a amazingly elegant solution: No need for runway operation and no need for a larger expensive jet engine.
Only setback could be the lifetime of the micro Jet engine which could be a turbofan based on available photos.

The propeller driven Saeghe-1 can even carry the 4 Sadid of the S-171. However its lower speed means it can't work well with a S-171 doing the targeting and has only a friction of the strike turnaround time.

The expendable swarm concept behind this all is amazing. It only gets effective if you produce all of its parts locally (including the engine) and at a low price.

Interestingly Saeghe-2 and S-171 both only have a Sadid variant without optical guidance, a variant with a mmW seeker like the Brimstone. A great technology addition. It might be due to the autonomous operation mode when data-link is not available. In that case the computer logic of the missile strikes the most likely target independently.

Ok, I don't want to open Pandoras box and don't talk too much but I can say this much:

Saeghe-2's engine is not a turbofan as I had said its possible. What looked like a bypass annuls on low res photos is just a somewhat strange looking design of that engine.

The engine is a turbofan with somewhat less than half the thrust of the Toloue engine. It is a very good and popular design and has a quite high lifetime for such a engine (at least the foreign original design).
A perfect choice, cheap, single stage engine.

It's fuel consumption is just a little better than the Toloue, still 1/3 less efficient than typical turbofans but a turbofan of that scale and cost range makes not much sense.
In foreign applications, ranges in of 1000+ km have been achieved. So given the large fuel reserve a flying wing design has, the 1500km necessary for the anti-Daesh operation is certainly possible, including the long engine operation time for such a mission.

That's state of the art and the real news is: Yes that engines offers a huge range of 1000+ km and is one of the reliable designs that offer a relative high lifetime for multiple missions of the Saeghe-2.

 

[T-72B]

Does Iranian Saegheh UAV has any stealth capability?

 

[mohsen]

Does Iranian Saegheh UAV has any stealth capability?

You mean beside being a flying wing design and having composite body and internal weapon's bay?!

 

[T-72B]

You mean beside being a flying wing design and having composite body and internal weapon's bay?!

I will said that as yes

 

[skyshadow]

You mean beside being a flying wing design and having composite body and internal weapon's bay?!

I will said that as yes

Saegheh _ 2 is more advance than Saegheh _ 1 as my bro mohsen jan said, but Iran never said anything about the electronics that they put in it.