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As Sineva said, such a UAV would need to be huge, probably jet powered. Quite expensive and complex to make. Not to mention that manned systems would be superior as they could command aerial forces instead of just give early warning to them.

An example is the huge Chinese "Divine Eagle" drone. It's thought to be for maritime patrol and AEW - but not an "AWACS" in the exact sense because it lacks the "C" (for "Control" i.e controlling/commanding other aircraft).
I get your gist but why is it important that the command comes from the craft? If the information is transferred to a ground crew then they can execute the command just as well.
 



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sooooo they do not know who hit them and from where they got hit, great they are back to where they were from day one, Omidiyeh Air Base and north of Abqaiq are pretty far from each other.



In an interim report of its investigation - seen by Reuters ahead of a presentation on Thursday to the United Nations Security Council - Washington assessed that before hitting its targets, one of the drones traversed a location approximately 200 km (124 miles) to the northwest of the attack site.

“This, in combination with the assessed 900 kilometer maximum range of the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV), indicates with high likelihood that the attack originated north of Abqaiq,” the interim report said, referring to the location of one of the Saudi oil facilities that were hit.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-attacks-iran-exlusive/exclusive-u-s-probe-of-saudi-oil-attack-shows-it-came-from-north-report-idUSKBN1YN299?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+reuters/topNews+(News+/+US+/+Top+News)



IRN-05 UAV aka Mohajer-2


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Iran unveiled the new version of high-precision Karrar-type drones during the Air Defense unit exercises held in 2019. A wide range of air targets will now be within range of "Karrar", a drone suicide bomber with double optical-thermal sensor, capable of participating in operations in all day and night conditions.
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I get your gist but why is it important that the command comes from the craft? If the information is transferred to a ground crew then they can execute the command just as well.

Because an unmanned drone and an autonomous drone are not the same thing. An autonomous drone is always unmanned but an unmanned drone is not always autonomous. Autonomy means the ability of a drone to make its own decisions and calculations based on information about speed, location, altitude, targets, surroundings, terrain, and enemy aircraft in its proximity and to act without human input. An autonomous drone can be programmed to take an action based on a specific trigger such as coming within a certain distance of an enemy plane or alter its GPS course. An unmanned drone might need human input from the ground to make the same decisions that an autonomous drone could do by itself. Reason why unmanned drones are vulnerable compared to fully autonomous drones is Iran was able to hack a US RQ-170 and land it by forcing it into autopilot mode. That drone relied too heavily on ground systems and Iran exploited that vulnerability by spoofing its GPS. A different autonomous drone might not have relied that heavily on ground towers and would have used its own internal GPS instead of ground GPS that could be intercepted and spoofed. In other words, it is harder to make a drone that can take decisions without a ground crew but such a drone is also less vulnerable than one that needs human input. Any UAV that needs too much ground input needs communication for it and excessive communication is a vulnerability waiting to be exploited by electronic interference. Keeping as many systems of a drone inside its own computer and not sending them all to the ground and then beamed back to the drone is a good thing. That way there is less that can be jammed or disrupted between them.
 
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Because an unmanned drone and an autonomous drone are not the same thing. An autonomous drone is always unmanned but an unmanned drone is not always autonomous. Autonomy means the ability of a drone to make its own decisions and calculations based on information about speed, location, altitude, targets, surroundings, terrain, and enemy aircraft in its proximity and to act without human input. An autonomous drone can be programmed to take an action based on a specific trigger such as coming within a certain distance of an enemy plane or alter its GPS course. An unmanned drone might need human input from the ground to make the same decisions that an autonomous drone could do by itself. Reason why unmanned drones are vulnerable compared to fully autonomous drones is Iran was able to hack a US RQ-170 and land it by forcing it into autopilot mode. That drone relied too heavily on ground systems and Iran exploited that vulnerability by spoofing its GPS. A different autonomous drone might not have relied that heavily on ground towers and would have used its own internal GPS instead of ground GPS that could be intercepted and spoofed. In other words, it is harder to make a drone that can take decisions without a ground crew but such a drone is also less vulnerable than one that needs human input. Any UAV that needs too much ground input needs communication for it and excessive communication is a vulnerability waiting to be exploited by electronic interference. Keeping as many systems of a drone inside its own computer and not sending them all to the ground and then beamed back to the drone is a good thing. That way there is less that can be jammed or disrupted between them.

Yes. Also gps spoofing can be avoided by land based positioning system. Iran has a lot of high mountains. If you put 6-8 LPS on the top of this mountains, the enemy sure can simulate the signal, but hardly to never can simulate the angles and the signal strength of all LPS at the same time. So where ever the drone is, the signals of all LPS must have the right angle among themselfs.
 

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