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Maybe it’s an RSS Goon virus?
Iranian, Russian, Chinese Media Push COVID-19 ‘Bioweapon’ Conspiracies
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Maybe it’s an RSS Goon virus?
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Prove me wrong if you have evidence.
no no no no, *you* have to provide evidence that it actually came from New Delhi, at least if you want to put such claims forward on forums like these..
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But all of them are irrelevant compare to the PDF Chinese 'experts', none of whom ever set foot in a medical school.
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According to that study, there was a case from Guangdong (cant remember the city) have an earlier dna sequence that is different from the later one H1 from Wuhan, so I guess the evolution of the virus in Wuhan became much more contagious than its ancestor, otherwise Guangdong should be the one who has the outbreak first. That may explain why Wuhan have so much people are infected and found out by the doctor. Also there are cases people who were supposedly recovered from the virus (no symptom and tested negative) still tested positive afterwards and case that the incubation period can last as long as 24 days where the virus within the host can last longer than people is expected. Moreover, there are few earliest known cases from Wuhan that has no relation to the wet market. Therefore, more dna samples is needed for further research before making any conclusion.
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There is ebola in Africa already.
Now what if I send someone to ebola hit area and then send him to China what will happen?
I just made a person travel 2 countries but in reality I just sent ebola to China. It is not a consparicy it is what I am doing.
USA is hiding its data on virus and USA had the first case of virus. They sent virus to Wuhan.
Now what if I send someone to ebola hit area and then send him to China what will happen?
I just made a person travel 2 countries but in reality I just sent ebola to China. It is not a consparicy it is what I am doing.
USA is hiding its data on virus and USA had the first case of virus. They sent virus to Wuhan.
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with all due respect, i think you underestimate or are lying about how much the US military is willing to 'solve things' by 'a little influenza correction' in their trade-war with China.But all of them are irrelevant compare to the PDF Chinese 'experts', none of whom ever set foot in a medical school.
that's just a way of keeping things short and easy to read, mr china man.“PDF Think Tank Analyst”
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why do some people still insist the virus specificaly targets Asians! now the virus is infecting people from all ethnicities & in all countries including the US & Israel, if it was a biological attack then it has failed big time, I mean the wife of Trudeau is now infected!
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Genetic ancestry tracing is a powerful tool, we know modern day humans (Homo sapiens) originated from Africa thanks to that. So far the evidence we have by tracing coronavirus point its origin at north America, this is hard science.
I know there are still unanswered mysteries about why Wuhan became the fist epicenter, just like in the "Out of Africa Theory" people are still trying to find an satisfying explanation on why humans first came to Australia before they even reached Europe... But the method of genetic tracing is sound, you can hardly find anyone in the academic circle who doubts it.
I know there are still unanswered mysteries about why Wuhan became the fist epicenter, just like in the "Out of Africa Theory" people are still trying to find an satisfying explanation on why humans first came to Australia before they even reached Europe... But the method of genetic tracing is sound, you can hardly find anyone in the academic circle who doubts it.
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We need more samples since the US only released the samples from those who had been China, not the local cases. Once the local dna samples release to the public, then we can have much clearer picture.
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eustace mullin is great historian he was friend of carol Quigel. read his book murder by injection.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us-lijian-zhao-intl-hnk/index.html
Chinese diplomat promotes conspiracy theory that US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan
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this is for his domestic audience, dude.
nothing to worry about.
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Deadly Germ Research Is Shut Down at Army Lab Over Safety Concerns
Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center.
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Denise Braun prepared to demonstrate lab work during a media tour at the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases in Fort Detrick, Md., in 2011.Credit...Patrick Semansky/Associated Press
By Denise Grady
Safety concerns at a prominent military germ lab have led the government to shut down research involving dangerous microbes like the Ebola virus.
“Research is currently on hold,” the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, in Fort Detrick, Md., said in a statement on Friday. The shutdown is likely to last months, Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman, said in an interview.
The statement said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decided to issue a “cease and desist order” last month to halt the research at Fort Detrick because the center did not have “sufficient systems in place to decontaminate wastewater” from its highest-security labs.
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But there has been no threat to public health, no injuries to employees and no leaks of dangerous material outside the laboratory, Ms. Vander Linden said.
China Spins Tale That the U.S. Army Started the Coronavirus Epidemic
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March 13, 2020
In the statement, the C.D.C. cited “national security reasons” as the rationale for not releasing information about its decision.
The institute is a biodefense center that studies germs and toxins that could be used to threaten the military or public health, and also investigates disease outbreaks. It carries out research projects for government agencies, universities and drug companies, which pay for the work. It has about 900 employees.
The shutdown affects a significant portion of the research normally conducted there, Ms. Vander Linden said.
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The suspended research involves certain toxins, along with germs called select agents, which the government has determined have “the potential to pose a severe threat to public, animal or plant health or to animal or plant products.” There are 67 select agents and toxins; examples include the organisms that cause Ebola, smallpox, anthrax and plague, and the poison ricin.
In theory, terrorists could use select agents as weapons, so the government requires any organization that wants to handle them to pass a background check, register, follow safety and security procedures, and undergo inspections through a program run by the C.D.C. and the United States Department of Agriculture. As of 2017, 263 laboratories — government, academic, commercial or private — had registered with the program.
The institute at Fort Detrick was part of the select agent program until its registration was suspended last month, after the C.D.C. ordered it to stop conducting the research.
The shutdown was first reported on Friday by the Frederick News-Post.
The problems date back to May 2018, when storms flooded and ruined a decades-old steam sterilization plant that the institute had been using to treat wastewater from its labs, Ms. Vander Linden said. The damage halted research for months, until the institute developed a new decontamination system using chemicals.
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The new system required changes in certain procedures in the laboratories. During an inspection in June, the C.D.C. found that the new procedures were not being followed consistently. Inspectors also found mechanical problems with the chemical-based decontamination system, as well as leaks, Ms. Vander Linden said, though she added that the leaks were within the lab and not to the outside world.
“A combination of things” led to the cease and desist order, and the loss of registration, she said.
Dr. Richard H. Ebright, a molecular biologist and bioweapons expert at Rutgers University, said in an email that problems with the institute’s new chemical-based decontamination process might mean it would have to go back to a heat-based system “which, if it requires constructing a new steam sterilization plant, could entail very long delays and very high costs.”
Although many projects are on hold, Ms. Vander Linden said scientists and other employees are continuing to work, just not on select agents. She said many were worried about not being able meet deadlines for their projects.
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Missteps have occurred at other government laboratories, including those at the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health. And in 2009, research at the institute in Fort Detrick was suspended because it was storing pathogens not listed in its database. The army institute also employed Bruce E. Ivins, a microbiologist who was a leading suspect — but who was never charged — in the anthrax mailings in 2001 that killed five people. Dr. Ivins died in 2008, apparently by suicide.
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Denise Grady has been a science reporter for The Times since 1998. She wrote “Deadly Invaders,” a book about emerging viruses. @nytDeniseGrady
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Deadly Germ Research Is Shut Down at Army Lab Over Safety Concerns
Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center.
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By Denise Grady
- Aug. 5, 2019
Safety concerns at a prominent military germ lab have led the government to shut down research involving dangerous microbes like the Ebola virus.
“Research is currently on hold,” the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, in Fort Detrick, Md., said in a statement on Friday. The shutdown is likely to last months, Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman, said in an interview.
The statement said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decided to issue a “cease and desist order” last month to halt the research at Fort Detrick because the center did not have “sufficient systems in place to decontaminate wastewater” from its highest-security labs.
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But there has been no threat to public health, no injuries to employees and no leaks of dangerous material outside the laboratory, Ms. Vander Linden said.
China Spins Tale That the U.S. Army Started the Coronavirus Epidemic
After criticizing American officials for politicizing the pandemic, Chinese officials and news outlets have floated unfounded theories that the United States was the source of the virus.
March 13, 2020
In the statement, the C.D.C. cited “national security reasons” as the rationale for not releasing information about its decision.
The institute is a biodefense center that studies germs and toxins that could be used to threaten the military or public health, and also investigates disease outbreaks. It carries out research projects for government agencies, universities and drug companies, which pay for the work. It has about 900 employees.
The shutdown affects a significant portion of the research normally conducted there, Ms. Vander Linden said.
ADVERTISEMENT
The suspended research involves certain toxins, along with germs called select agents, which the government has determined have “the potential to pose a severe threat to public, animal or plant health or to animal or plant products.” There are 67 select agents and toxins; examples include the organisms that cause Ebola, smallpox, anthrax and plague, and the poison ricin.
In theory, terrorists could use select agents as weapons, so the government requires any organization that wants to handle them to pass a background check, register, follow safety and security procedures, and undergo inspections through a program run by the C.D.C. and the United States Department of Agriculture. As of 2017, 263 laboratories — government, academic, commercial or private — had registered with the program.
The institute at Fort Detrick was part of the select agent program until its registration was suspended last month, after the C.D.C. ordered it to stop conducting the research.
The shutdown was first reported on Friday by the Frederick News-Post.
The problems date back to May 2018, when storms flooded and ruined a decades-old steam sterilization plant that the institute had been using to treat wastewater from its labs, Ms. Vander Linden said. The damage halted research for months, until the institute developed a new decontamination system using chemicals.
ADVERTISEMENT
The new system required changes in certain procedures in the laboratories. During an inspection in June, the C.D.C. found that the new procedures were not being followed consistently. Inspectors also found mechanical problems with the chemical-based decontamination system, as well as leaks, Ms. Vander Linden said, though she added that the leaks were within the lab and not to the outside world.
“A combination of things” led to the cease and desist order, and the loss of registration, she said.
Dr. Richard H. Ebright, a molecular biologist and bioweapons expert at Rutgers University, said in an email that problems with the institute’s new chemical-based decontamination process might mean it would have to go back to a heat-based system “which, if it requires constructing a new steam sterilization plant, could entail very long delays and very high costs.”
Although many projects are on hold, Ms. Vander Linden said scientists and other employees are continuing to work, just not on select agents. She said many were worried about not being able meet deadlines for their projects.
ADVERTISEMENT
Missteps have occurred at other government laboratories, including those at the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health. And in 2009, research at the institute in Fort Detrick was suspended because it was storing pathogens not listed in its database. The army institute also employed Bruce E. Ivins, a microbiologist who was a leading suspect — but who was never charged — in the anthrax mailings in 2001 that killed five people. Dr. Ivins died in 2008, apparently by suicide.
Earlier coverage of germ research
Army Suspends Germ Research at Maryland Lab
Feb. 9, 2009
Scientist’s Suicide Linked to Anthrax Inquiry
Aug. 2, 2008
Pathogen Mishaps Rise as Regulators Stay Clear
July 19, 2014
Denise Grady has been a science reporter for The Times since 1998. She wrote “Deadly Invaders,” a book about emerging viruses. @nytDeniseGrady
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