IRANIAN new fighter jet

[ihealugo]

As you said, Klimov RD-33 (MiG 29, ...) is an option but don't forget that even China has problems making that type of engine. Good example is JF17 (98 kN).

and i didn't said that it's easy ! Iran started researches on engines about 20 years before ! and now Iran is progressing step by step . Good point is that for overhaul we had built many parts of engine but till it don't reach 100% we can't say that we have built one . and some other thing to be mentioned is that we have a great company like MAPNA that have a lot of experience in these cases , so we can use it's experience too. and latest news was that for the Chopper engines we reached 75% progress and about jet fighters it's 50 % , it is possible that they had finished it till now ....

 

[tyrant]

turbojet????

they gonna unveil not just a turbofan engine but turbofan engine(s) soon.....

Fars News Agency :: Iran to Unveil Turbofan Engines Soon

I did not know that until now.

 

[The SiLent crY]

Tittle is misleading. if we would call every 3d picture a new fighter jet, there would be millions of super jets circling on this forum.

Aren't you tired of trolling ?

Have you forgotten taking your drug again ?

You had the same idea about the UAVs , missiles and whatever Iranian members post .

 

[Iran land of Aryans]

Hello

I am here to make a few points.
Number 1 is this fighter jet is just the new version of Iranian saeqeh which they said they were going to unviel.
Please do not get too excited to think to think Iran will unviel something else.

Iran has designed many prototypes for fighter jets, frankly I am surprised non of them are actually on the internet. But if you know any anyone who works for a Iranian aerospace company and perhaps someone who is doing aerospace in one of Iran's too university then they might show you a picture. I cannot show you any pictures I am afraid unless a picture is posted first by Iranian news agency and so on. Reason for this is security reasons and I don't know if I am allowed to post pictures. But trust me, some of the proto types are very great.

regrading jet engines, Iran is making great progress. especially since Iran is very advanced in nanotechnology it will not be that long before Iran starts to apply that proficiency to metallurgy to make a good material for fighter jet engines. Once an engine is made, Iran will have no problem making 4+ to 4++ gen fighter, I am assuming this will happen within next 5-8 years. Regarding 5th gen fighters, some Iranian universities have made a few very small mockups for fun but nothing serious. The mockups are small, just maybe 30 cm by 30 cm, but due to lack of technology and funding, don't expect to see anything like a life-scale 5th gen protype anytime before 2025-2030.

Regrading radars, Iran can infrastructure for making Passed electronic scan ray and IS working on AESA radars for fighters, that is being worked on by our defence industries in collaboration with our universities.

 

[Iran land of Aryans]

Nothing can be manufactured with sayings my friend. Iran hasn't revealed anything strategic (complete product) which is designed by himself until now and I think It is difficult to reveal in next 10-15 years as well because What Iranian industry does is modification and Production/Development project models of existing USA or Soviet toys to achieve some goals/gain experience so Design Engineering capabilities of Iran remains poor standarts(Design engineering is completely different and difficult class than manufacturing. At design engineering, You describe your own limits but At manufacturing, You just serailly produce others limits described at design phase), Let put designing so difficult flying objects like aircrafts which require so complex design softwares/test rooms for correction of aerodynamic to develop something at least 3+ generation fighter aside, This capablity is poor at Iranian land vehicle sector as well.

About subsystem development capabilities of Iran to integrate on own designed aircraft, It is a big question as well..

EW systems
A2A missiles
AESA radar
Complete Avionic system(not LCD screens) standarts are classified in accordance with international standarts
Mission computer
Engine
Optic pods
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Excuse my language but you are talking a lot of nonsense. Iran has not made anything which is not designed by itself? what about the Iranian sejill 2 solid fuelled Ballistic missile? what about fateh,qiam, khalije fars?

You are trying to act like a professional but you are only a professional at spewing out propaganda.

The difference between Iran and Turkey is, Turkey gets it's technology from NATO and Iran is forced to learn from technology we bought decades go and upgrade them in order to deal with imminent threats. You are a moronic person if you believe this things Turkey has made were completely made by Turkey itself and not technology from other Nations for example, Your T-129 is just a A-129 from Italy, Your altay tank is based in many ways in south korean k-2 so please don't talk as if people here are blind.

Does Turkey even have a space program? No because getting tech for SLV is not as easy as getting a tech for helicopter like A-129 from your NATO friends. so we'll see how long it will take for Turkey to make a SLV to launch even a 10KG satellite.

what Iran is doing is much more impressive than Turkey because unlike Turkey, other nations do not hand us blueprints on a plate.

 

[BordoEnes]

Excuse my language but you are talking a lot of nonsense. Iran has not made anything which is not designed by itself? what about the Iranian sejill 2 solid fuelled Ballistic missile? what about fateh,qiam, khalije fars?

You are trying to act like a professional but you are only a professional at spewing out propaganda.

The difference between Iran and Turkey is, Turkey gets it's technology from NATO and Iran is forced to learn from technology we bought decades go and upgrade them in order to deal with imminent threats. You are a moronic person if you believe this things Turkey has made were completely made by Turkey itself and not technology from other Nations for example, Your T-129 is just a A-129 from Italy, Your altay tank is based in many ways in south korean k-2 so please don't talk as if people here are blind.

Does Turkey even have a space program? No because getting tech for SLV is not as easy as getting a tech for helicopter like A-129 from your NATO friends. so we'll see how long it will take for Turkey to make a SLV to launch even a 10KG satellite.

what Iran is doing is much more impressive than Turkey because unlike Turkey, other nations do not hand us blueprints on a plate.

You must be from IMF dont you... I can judge your stupidity by the simple minded naive comment alone.

 

[Iran land of Aryans]

You must be from IMF dont you... I can judge your stupidity by the simple minded naive comment alone.

It seems Turks in this forum only counter argument to anything is to insult someone.
Call me stupid but what said was true and the facts your burning and insulting me shows that.
And what do you mean I am from IMF? If you're not going talk about the topic, leave this thread.

 

[tyrant]

The difference between Iran and Turkey is, Turkey gets it's technology from NATO and Iran is forced to learn from technology we bought decades go and upgrade them in order to deal with imminent threats.

You are a moronic person if you believe this things Turkey has made were completely made by Turkey itself and not technology from other Nations for example, Your T-129 is just a A-129 from Italy, Your altay tank is based in many ways in south korean k-2 so please don't talk as if people here are blind.
>> T129 is a joint work with Agusta.

what Iran is doing is much more impressive than Turkey because unlike Turkey, other nations do not hand us blueprints on a plate.

I try to be honest in my quotes.

Don't look at the flags, look at the argument.

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BEING ABLE TO COPY IS AN ADVANTAGE. IF TURKEY COPIES, SHE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUY ANYTHING FROM US ANYMORE.


Does Turkey even have a space program?
>> Turkey does not have SLV. However take some time to look at Gokturk2 specs.

what Iran is doing is much more impressive than Turkey because unlike Turkey, other nations do not hand us blueprints on a plate.

>> No one has given Turkey blueprints. "License" is a different story.
Be fair and honest:
Hoot 2 Shkhval super-cavitating torpedo is a blueprint.
RQ-170 is a gift of god blue print.
The English super fast (72 + knot) boat is a blueprint.
The nuke trigger fuse was a blueprint.
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I agree that Iranian achievement in missiles, SLV, indigenous engines and ... are the best in ME.
Dont forget that Iran started those fields in 90's.

 

[cabatli_53]

Excuse my language but you are talking a lot of nonsense. Iran has not made anything which is not designed by itself? what about the Iranian sejill 2 solid fuelled Ballistic missile? what about fateh,qiam, khalije fars?

You are trying to act like a professional but you are only a professional at spewing out propaganda.

The difference between Iran and Turkey is, Turkey gets it's technology from NATO and Iran is forced to learn from technology we bought decades go and upgrade them in order to deal with imminent threats. You are a moronic person if you believe this things Turkey has made were completely made by Turkey itself and not technology from other Nations for example, Your T-129 is just a A-129 from Italy, Your altay tank is based in many ways in south korean k-2 so please don't talk as if people here are blind.

Does Turkey even have a space program? No because getting tech for SLV is not as easy as getting a tech for helicopter like A-129 from your NATO friends. so we'll see how long it will take for Turkey to make a SLV to launch even a 10KG satellite.

what Iran is doing is much more impressive than Turkey because unlike Turkey, other nations do not hand us blueprints on a plate.

Your way of understanding really impressed me my friend. If you really get my speeches I typed about Iran regarding "Poor Design abilities of your industry regarding complete strategic products including land sector, Never unveiled own designs but modify Russian and USA toys, Differences between Manufacturing and Design engineering, The way of development steps of both industry, Difficulties of development aircraft subsystems and turbo-jet engines" and respond like "You are nothing against Iran, You f@cking NATO slaves, Iran is strong You know no sh@t !!!" like statements, Then I just appreciate your way of understanding and comprehension. Go ahead, I will follow you !!!

As a note: You are trying to change the subject over Turkey's defence programs and introduce them as If Turks hide some cooperations to insult Iran but If you spend your valuable time (Have a rest from designing Iranian aircraft and check Turkish programs before talking ) a littile bit to visit Turkey's defence section of PDF, You will find everything you want from the beggining to advancement of almost all programs. What is impressed me about yourself is Noone in this thread didn't compare your industrial achievements with other states but you suddenly drive thread into a pissing measure contests.

 

[BordoEnes]

It seems Turks in this forum only counter argument to anything is to insult someone.
Call me stupid but what said was true and the facts your burning and insulting me shows that.
And what do you mean I am from IMF? If you're not going talk about the topic, leave this thread.

This stuff is discused a billion times to unless you say something actually 'Discussion worthy' i wont even take your barking asss seriously. Really enjoy the accusation of Turkish products like T-129 being Italian or Altay being Korean. I am sorry but Your AH-1 Cobras (Oeps sorry i mean panha or HESA and any other pathetic attempt for a attack helo) doesnt seem much Iranian either. Same goes for your pathetic attempt for a Tank, Nothing more then old 60s Technology put together. Rarely there is Iranian Technology involved with the expection of some ballistic missiles.

By reinventing the wheel all over again doesnt make your sorry excuse for a defence industry "Advanced" at all its only shows how dumb you are when it comes at defence mathers.

 

[Iran land of Aryans]

It's funny how you don't have anything to do say against my statements instead of replying with nonsense. I never said Turkey is nothing, if you manage to read at some point in your life then come back and read my comment. I said, what Turkey is doing is getting technology from NATO and saying it's "indigenous" technology.
and that is nothing compare to Iran because Iran actually has to reverse engineer and upgrade. You sit back and try and make statement regarding the quality of the optical system used by our upgraded cobra (toofan 2) as if you were involved with the project yourself. before trying to talk trash about Iranian industry provide evidence regarding not just what the weapon looks like, but rather it's interior as well, such as it's electronics and so on.
what the hell would a fan boy like you know about equipment used by Iran? Iran has proven it's militray industry many times by downing Americans advanced UAV's many times and it was Iranian trained ans armed hezbollah which kicked Israelis backside and your might Turkey has yet to even defeat the PKK.

You love to act like a professional, but if you had any level of proficiency you would not judge Iran military achievement by what they "look" like. I bet your one of those who made statements like Iranian shalamche missile is a 100% copy of 1970's Hawk missile

 

[Koovie]

WTF? Everyone seems to be copying the basic design of the F-22 Raptor!

ha? Its because of the stealth design! Making a complete different stealth design than the Raptor is like reinventing the wheel. The Raptor was simply the 1st one to come up.

 

[cabatli_53]

It's funny how you don't have anything to do say against my statements instead of replying with nonsense. I never said Turkey is nothing, if you manage to read at some point in your life then come back and read my comment. I said, what Turkey is doing is getting technology from NATO and saying it's "indigenous" technology.
and that is nothing compare to Iran because Iran actually has to reverse engineer and upgrade. You sit back and try and make statement regarding the quality of the optical system used by our upgraded cobra (toofan 2) as if you were involved with the project yourself. before trying to talk trash about Iranian industry provide evidence regarding not just what the weapon looks like, but rather it's interior as well, such as it's electronics and so on.
what the hell would a fan boy like you know about equipment used by Iran? Iran has proven it's militray industry many times by downing Americans advanced UAV's many times and it was Iranian trained ans armed hezbollah which kicked Israelis backside and your might Turkey has yet to even defeat the PKK.

You love to act like a professional, but if you had any level of proficiency you would not judge Iran military achievement by what they "look" like. I bet your one of those who made statements like Iranian shalamche missile is a 100% copy of 1970's Hawk missile

Yes, Trolling commenced !!!

Subject: Iranian aircraft and industrial achievements
Troll:
Turkey's PKK fight, NATO help, Turkey's defence programs, You know no sh@t so You didn't involved, Iranian HAWK missiles, Old discussions and pains... )

 

[Iran land of Aryans]

Borodernes:

Those 60's technology have done well defending us so far but I find it hard to see how much your NATO tech is helping you against PKK freedom fighters. You guys are a joke indeed, I am meant to believe a country with no real scientific achievements and crap scientists is making advanced military hardware lol. seriously, your entire lifeline is dependent on EU nations in many ways, both for your economy and military industry.

anyway, now go back to the Turkish sections and comment there. I don't understand why these Turks always come comment on our threads. Their inferiority complex is amazing. No Iranians wants you in our section, No Iranian comes in your section. go away now.

 

[Quasar]

Yes, Trolling commenced !!!

Subject: Iranian aircraft and industrial achievements
Troll:
Turkey's PKK fight, NATO help, Turkey's defence programs, You know no sh@t so You didn't involved, Iranian HAWK missiles, Old discussions and pains... )

what else you were expecting? a serious answer to any of our questions...!?