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IRGC aerospace commander brigadier Hajizadeh sheds more light on the operation of targetting ISIS positions in Deir ez-Zur, Syria:
"60 targets were presented by IRGC Qods forces, to avoid civilian casualties, eventually 6 missiles were launched at 3 targets.
there were civilians around some targets so we sent a drone from hundred kilometers away to observe the situation.
during 12 minutes, 6 missiles were fired, 2 missiles were still on the launchers when the news published.
when the first missile hit it's target, we were watching it on the monitor in Tehran (in real time), I was surprised to see 3 spots caught fire after one impact, the missile hit the ISIS underground base, the fire rose from 3 tunnel entrances.
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The second missile hit their fuel depot, fuel leaked to their tunnels and further extended the fire."
in case somebody wants to watch the footage again:
http://www.aparat.com/v/Xf0wr
http://www.aparat.com/v/S8mgI
سردار حاجی‌زاده مطرح کرد
کشته شدن داعشی چینی در حمله موشکی سپاه/چند سال پیش هم علیه تکفیریها عملیات موشکی کردیم/متن پیام رهبری برای حمله موشکی به داعش
"60 targets were presented by IRGC Qods forces, to avoid civilian casualties, eventually 6 missiles were launched at 3 targets.
there were civilians around some targets so we sent a drone from hundred kilometers away to observe the situation.
during 12 minutes, 6 missiles were fired, 2 missiles were still on the launchers when the news published.
when the first missile hit it's target, we were watching it on the monitor in Tehran (in real time), I was surprised to see 3 spots caught fire after one impact, the missile hit the ISIS underground base, the fire rose from 3 tunnel entrances.
View attachment 412893
The second missile hit their fuel depot, fuel leaked to their tunnels and further extended the fire."
in case somebody wants to watch the footage again:
http://www.aparat.com/v/Xf0wr
http://www.aparat.com/v/S8mgI
سردار حاجی‌زاده مطرح کرد
کشته شدن داعشی چینی در حمله موشکی سپاه/چند سال پیش هم علیه تکفیریها عملیات موشکی کردیم/متن پیام رهبری برای حمله موشکی به داعش
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IRGC aerospace commander brigadier Hajizadeh sheds more light on the operation of targetting ISIS positions in Deir ez-Zur, Syria:
"60 targets were presented by IRGC Qods forces, to avoid civilian casualties, eventually 6 missiles were launched at 3 targets.
there were civilians around some targets so we sent a drone from hundred kilometers away to observe the situation.
during 12 minutes, 6 missiles were fired, 2 missiles were still on the launchers when the news published.
when the first missile hit it's target, we were watching it on the monitor in Tehran (in real time), I was surprised to see 3 spots caught fire after one impact, the missile hit the ISIS underground base, the fire raised from 3 tunnel entrances.
View attachment 412893
View attachment 412896
The second missile hit their fuel depot, fuel leaked to their tunnels and further extended the fire."
in case somebody wants to watch the footage again:
http://www.aparat.com/v/Xf0wr
http://www.aparat.com/v/S8mgI
سردار حاجی‌زاده مطرح کرد
کشته شدن داعشی چینی در حمله موشکی سپاه/چند سال پیش هم علیه تکفیریها عملیات موشکی کردیم/متن پیام رهبری برای حمله موشکی به داعش
YES I GOT IT RIGHT, THE FIRE COMING FROM THE BUILDING WAS FROM AN UNDERGROUND BUNKER!!!!!
Winning combo here gentleman, drones and stand off missiles. Hell yeah....!!!!
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Yes you were right about that underground bunker in that open field just bellow building that I thought was the target!
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From this strike in syria it is clear that BM/CM are useful to a limit with conventional warheads. Even with 30-50 m CEP which is good accurate for BM's, the damage vs cost is not in our favor. We dont have the airpower either to manage such long range strikes in future.
Iran needs unconventional warheads, CBRN that is. CW warheads in particular can cause lots of damage and are easy to synthesize and maintain.
Iran needs unconventional warheads, CBRN that is. CW warheads in particular can cause lots of damage and are easy to synthesize and maintain.
mikham rok harf bezanam bebakhshid
az dastam azordeh nashid
gharar nist ke artesh bist milioni hamash bejange! mage too jang hame arteshiooon mijangan???
man vaghaan motajjeb misham chera dar in kharab shode ke esmesh mamlekate hame chiz enghadr sathi bardasht mishe! agar gharar bood mesl shoma ajdad bozorgavaremoon fekr konan ke en keshvar kohan tarin mamlekate zende nabood!
artesh bist milioni mani kheli gostardee dare. sad albate manish in nist man doctor clash bigiram dastom ba cheshmi ke too ketab be fana rafte beram bejangam!
manish gostardeh tare. sad albate ke farmandehan ham in ro fahmidan ama doost aziz man be onvan baradar koochiket migam shoma garare farda mamlekat dari koni in hame hesab ketab kardi vaghtet hadar dadi bekhater in ke in sohbat ro bardasht dorost nadashti azash.
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dar mored boodje
in mohem ni chi to matn boodje oomade( to internet hastesh) in moheme ke cheghad tamin etebar mishe
ke sarlashgar bagheri adam kami nist ke bekhad harf alaki bezane. too ghazieh moosak be deirozoor ham ishoon moshakhasan betarafane goft gharar nist sar partab mooshak be doshman ma baham dava konim!!!
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Sol soleh 2017 AD na 500 B.C. va aghar bekhay beri to manneeesh aslan Iran Artesh e 80 millioni doreh cherra faghat 20 ta va balleh 2500 sol e peesh aggar 1 million adam sang ham partob mekardan boz beh yeh dardi mekhord vali emrooz ean khabara neest!
Zamaneh Saljooghian am hameen fekr a ro mekardan keh ma adam beshtar doreem o bok'kee neest hameh mejangeem bad chee shod? Moghool ha ba selahha va takteek ha e jaded omanadan o chee shod? to shab 20 ta asb o ateesh mezadan mefrestodan vasateh Ghabeeleh ha e Irani bad ashoob be pa meshood o....
Teer kamoon ha e bartaree ham doshtan keh ham koocheek tar boodan o ham ghodrateh beshtari dosht va ean keshvareh kohan sol ba yeki as bozorg tareeen artesh ha jahan ra dar on zaman dosht tekkeh parreh shod va as on rooz ta allan bazi Irani ha hanooz nafahmeedan keh Lashkareh bozorg bedooneh Tajheezat soodi nadareh keh heech zarrar ham doreh! Va Tajheezat va tackteekha ast keh jan ro taeen mekoneh na teedodeh afrod!
Va aghar masaleh tameen noon o ab e pass ba tooleedeh tajheezat barayeh on afrood kar dorost kon keh ham dollatet godratmantar va ham mellatet servatmand tar boshand la'keen aghar berry o beh 2 Million nafar(Artesh, Sepah, Basij,...) mahi $400 USD ($9.6 Billion USD) Hooghoog, Bemeh, bazneshasteghi va dighar emkanat bedi va khiyal khoni ba khodi khod ean ghodrati e keh metoneh jello lashkarreh moderni ro begeareh pass sakht dar eshtebohi!
Bedoneh Nirou havvai modern Iran bayad kam e kam soli $5 Billion USD kharj sokht Moshak Bellastic($2Billion), Moshak Cruise($2Billion) va pahpad ha($1Billion) bokonad ean yeh hagheeghateh va aghar dollati bahooneh dar avarad va ean pool ro sarf sokht ean tajheezat nakonad khak pak ean keshvareh kohan sol ra choon saljooghian dar khatar andokhteh! Makhsoosan dollati keh to 20 sol e gozashteh hatta 1 Jangandeh modern barayeh nirou e havvaiish nakhareedeh! Emrooz cheneen bi masouleeati faghat to keshvar ha e bi dar o paykar deedeh mesheh halla mikhan kohan sol boshan ya naboshan!
yes thats why i hate this deal !
they gave up the nuclear program (im not really interested in) but they forgot! or just did not try to took the dollar trade access and after signing that deal some times later they start begging for it!!!
this is the most effective sanction all we know.
and starting propaganda against every single person saying anything about this situation we are in! (like irgc or some other with very bad words which they are definitely some curse) because if just they confess they had mistake its likely to kill themselves politically.
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hoda pedaret biamorze! hamooni ke man goftam migi
manam ke migam aslan artesh bist milioni oon chizi nist ke shoma bardashtkardi. manzoor chiz digast hame artesh ke piade nazam nist. vaghti jang shod hame arteshian hatta ooni ke kar eghtesadi mikone. manzoor pichide tar az een sohbatast. man khob nemidoonam sokhanrani haye emam goosh dadi ye na vali sade harf mizad mardom befhman dar avaz ketab hayee ham dare doood az kale adam boland mikonan (adam bisavadi nistam ghablan khodam moarefi kardam). in jomleh az hamoonast.
roo niroo havaee bahs nadaram hagh ba shomast manam az vaghti oomadam too in vadi hamash kaboos niroo havaee mibinam!!!!
albate ba argham dade shode mokhalefam gharar nist vaghti jangi vojood nadare een poola kharj beshe ke! ba 2 bilion mishe 1200 cruse dorost kard ke foghesh do sal in boodje niaz bashe ke oonam midoonim ke bishtar ghemat kharj felezat sookht a sarjangi mishe va baadan mishe electronicesh upgrade kard. yek sal ham tahghigh toseee. shod se sal. 2000 ta zolfaghar base (4000) 2000 ta ham fateh 313 (4000) ye gheimat gereftam ta hampooshani konan 1000 ham mooshak sejjil (6000) basghiash rocket ya mooshak arzoon bashe kafie. na inke harsal inghadr pool ke shoma gofti bedim jaye mooshak.
aslan mooshak bedoon tedad khariate va afrad nezami hame midoonan. yani agar pool dadi jaye tahghigh tose amma tedad nadasht yani bad hava. ina sookht jamedast. maye haram misazan anbar mikonan bi sookht baad 10 sal faght bazbini khastegi felez mishan. a mooshak jamed ham bad 10 sal sookhtesh avaz mikonan
khob hesab konim
ta inja shod 16000 ba baghie moooshak haye arzoon ke maslan beshan 9000 kollan mishe 25000! kollan kar 6 sal boodjast (ba pahpad) ke sad albate intoor nemisazan masalan too 12 sal inghadr kharj mikonan ke be baghie bakhsh ha ham pooool berese
badesh boodje mimoone bara rader o defa havaee.
dar mored niroo havaee
manam doost daram aslan pakfa dashte bashim hame doost daran ama vaghti nemifrooshan che konim? ma\ge mig 29 muldavi nabood ke amrica kharideshoon ke be dast iran naresan?
akhe vaghti emsal sang roo yakh kardan vazir arjmand dafa ro che kari az dasteshoon barmiad??
hich
faghat bayad ba amsal kosar o ... zare zare dobare charkh ro az no besazim. agarna mishod maham mesl hend az har gooshe doonya ye tike bekharim o baad behesh begim jangande melli!
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Eshtebah mikoni azeez
1.Barayeh Keshvari keh Nirou e Havvai Modern nadareh vaghti Jang besheh degheh deer shodeh vaghti nirou havvai nadari anborrat dar sar ta sar e keshvar bayad ghabl az jang poor boshan!
2.Balleh aghar gharrar bood har moshaki bedoneh moshkeli ba yek partob beh hadafesh bokhoreh va hadaf ra ba hamoon yek partob nabood koneh ean teedod kaffi bod
Zaman Jang Jahani Almon(Germany) 30,000 moshak V1 (avvaleen cruise e donya) dosht va nazdeek 10,000 ta faghat be Englees partob kard tazeh yeki az ghavitarreen nirou ha havvai jahan ro ham dosht va on jang o ham bokht tazeh on mogheh moshak zeddeh havvai vojod nadasht
Balleh aghah ~2000 ta moshak cruise (1991-2003) bara hamlleh America beh Iraq kaffi bood daleelesh doshtaneh Ghavitarren Nirou Havvai Jahan + 8 sol jang ba Iran bood
Iran Cheneen Nirou e havvai heech vaght nakhahad dosht va lazem ham nadareh lakeen choon naft, Gaz va khaili cheez ha e degar darreem barayeh bozdorandegee sakht anbor haii poor az moshak va pahpad ghabl az har jangi va barayeh peeshgeary az har jangi elzameest
Beh toor mamool har dollateh agheli ba pool, vosaat va naft o gazi keh Iran dorreh bayad kam e kam va faghat o faghat barayeh deffa az khodesh bayad soli 12 Jangandeh modern + 2-3 havapayma poshteeboni (Ya haml o naghl, ya Air Refueling, ya AWACS, Search & Rescue, recon, Heavy bomber...) Beh novgoneh Nirou havvai ezafeh koneh va aghar nakoneh sahlengari kardeh! mesheh chand? Dar asl emrooz mesheh beeshtar az soli $3 Billion USD va ean kam e kamesheh onam barayeh dollati keh to 20 sol e peesh har sol jangandeh khareedeh
$3Billion USD mesheh Pool e Havapayma modern, Spare Parts, tasleehat, va ghereh
Allan yeh telephon dasti emsol ba 5 sol peeshesh o nemetoni moghayeseh khoni degheh cheh bereseh be Jangandeh va tasleehatash
Halla dollati keh beh har dalleeli natonesteh to 20 solleh gozashteh 1 Jangandeh ham bekhareh bayad az yeh jaii ean naghz ro jobron koneh va tanha rahesh sokhteh moshakeh va pahpadeh
Va aghar beh toor mamool kam e kam soli $3 Billion kharj Nirou Havai mikardi va $2 Billion kharj Moshak ha Bellastic, Cruise vs pahpadha hal bayad kolleh $5 Billion o kharj Bellastic, cruise va pahpadha bokoni makhsoosan keshvari keh 20 sol e jangandeh nakhareedeh va haddeh aghal on $$$ ha az keshvar kharej nemesheh
Va aghar Iran allan bekhad ean naghz 30 sollaroo jobran koneh bayad barayeh va ta 20 solleh ayyandeh soli $10 Billion USD Jangandeh va havapayma varedeh keshvar koneh tazzeh agheh bezzaran va ahan parreh ha ghadeemeeshon o beh ma nandozan
aziz man hamina ke goftam 5000 mooshak daghigh ba 1200 cruse va 9 B ham baraye mooshak gheir daghighesh goftam. ke khodesh kheili arzoon tare.
man tajjob mikonam harja har commenti in shekli didam harkas boode hey modam az naft o gaz migan. are darim ama vaghti nemitoonim befrooshim ya masalan jamiat ziadeh khob che khonim mage ma mesl ghatar masalan 1 melion hastim?! mohem nist cheghad darim mohem forooshe va jamiati ke gharare bahash sir konim.
koodooom az hamsayeh haye ma bombafkan sangin daran?? ke gheir az 3 keshvar aval bomb afkan sangin dare???
ba awacs movafegham
ettefaghan too niroo havaee soraat pishraft selah kamtare masalan amarram d chan sale oomade? f22 chan saleh? shoma middoni ke hazine tahghigh tose sakht ye jangande chand darmiad khob motmaennan az hazine ye telephon bishtare. soraat sakhtesham hamintor.
vaghti mooshak sakhti va estefade nakardi in mimoone ta chand sal momkene masalan bakhsh hayee azash upgrade beshe ke goftam bishtar hazinash sarjangee sookht hastan pas aya ma bish az 30000 mooshak balistic niaz darim?? ba darsad barkhord 50 darsad ke 6000 tash bayad mooshak haye daghigh 2000 cruse baghiash hadaf hastan amalan baraye khali kardan defa havaee.
inam ke goftid 10B FAGHAT havapeyma inam ziade. kheli ke beshe mishe 7B na 10B (hesab kardam ghablan) .onam faghat havapeyma! hamchin pooli aslan nadarim.
darkol ziad goftid gheymat mooshak va hazineh harsalash
man tajjob mikonam harja har commenti in shekli didam harkas boode hey modam az naft o gaz migan. are darim ama vaghti nemitoonim befrooshim ya masalan jamiat ziadeh khob che khonim mage ma mesl ghatar masalan 1 melion hastim?! mohem nist cheghad darim mohem forooshe va jamiati ke gharare bahash sir konim.
koodooom az hamsayeh haye ma bombafkan sangin daran?? ke gheir az 3 keshvar aval bomb afkan sangin dare???
ba awacs movafegham
ettefaghan too niroo havaee soraat pishraft selah kamtare masalan amarram d chan sale oomade? f22 chan saleh? shoma middoni ke hazine tahghigh tose sakht ye jangande chand darmiad khob motmaennan az hazine ye telephon bishtare. soraat sakhtesham hamintor.
vaghti mooshak sakhti va estefade nakardi in mimoone ta chand sal momkene masalan bakhsh hayee azash upgrade beshe ke goftam bishtar hazinash sarjangee sookht hastan pas aya ma bish az 30000 mooshak balistic niaz darim?? ba darsad barkhord 50 darsad ke 6000 tash bayad mooshak haye daghigh 2000 cruse baghiash hadaf hastan amalan baraye khali kardan defa havaee.
inam ke goftid 10B FAGHAT havapeyma inam ziade. kheli ke beshe mishe 7B na 10B (hesab kardam ghablan) .onam faghat havapeyma! hamchin pooli aslan nadarim.
darkol ziad goftid gheymat mooshak va hazineh harsalash
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Yes when you haven't purchased or built modern fighters and Air Defense systems and added them to your fleet on a yearly bases for 30 years that would be the result!
And the Iran-Iraq war showed that it doesn't much matter how much more advanced your Air Force is because if you don't have the capability to fully maintain your fighters, build weapons for those Aircraft yourself & train your own pilots & maintenance crew then your nothing more than a client state and the result of the war solely depends on your masters
And at this point if Iran ever wants to rebuild it's Air Force again they need to 1st have a large enough precision guided missile stockpile that could by themselves be a deterrent that's why Iran for the next 10 years needs to mass produce a large enough stockpile that would act as a deterrent so you can eventually shift focus on your Air Force (~$20-$25 Billion on Ballistic Missiles, ~$20 Billion Cruise Missiles, ~$10 Billion on UAV & UCAV in a 10 year time span)
And only after you've built such a deterrent factor can you shift focus on either building your own Air Force OR co-producing one with another major power and many of the technology & resources (From man power to tools & equipment) that were being used to mass produce Cruise Missiles & UCAV can be transferred towards building your own fighter fleet
An Air Defense system has to work in collusion with your Air Force they both complement each other and having one without the other looses it's effectiveness
Today it's a well known fact that F-22's, F-35's & US fighters in general are too reliant on their BVR capabilities and within ~40-50km modern none stealth Russian fighters have the upper hand due to their IRST, IR weapons & maneuverability but they can only take advantage of this if they can get within ~50km and that's where Air Defense systems come in. Russian fighters can go to silent mode radars off, approach at low altitudes, use decoy UAV's and rely on enemy location fed to them via early warning system (Air Defense) and that's how a superior IRST defeats an American stealth fighter...
At the same time if you don't have a fighter fleet equipped with IRST you have no chance of stopping a stealth fighter backed with decoy UAV's & cruise missiles getting within weapons range of your Air Defense systems that protect vital locations!
And these are just simple examples of how one compliments the other and how both lose their effectiveness if one is missing!
Now since Iran doesn't have an advanced Air Force you need to have more missile depot and launch locations that any enemy could possibly hit within 24 hours
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