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[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1214951286849900547

 

[TheImmortal]

All good:

Fateh series kill one point object with a ~500kg warhead.
500kg is not a large warhead, it just kills that point.

It also hits at mach 3,5.

Goal of this tactical weapon is to destroy A SINGLE point-target. Hangars, bunkers etc.

Except Iran said it also used Qiam with 800kg warhead as well.

 

[arashkamangir]

Except Iran said it also used Qiam with 800kg warhead as well.

They hit just the outside the facility at Iraqi Kurdistan with Qiam. They also missed on purpose. The entire goal here was to create material damage and demo intention to descalate but also show a big stick.

As yavar and others have said, the real revenge will come. My guess is, they will start assassination campaign and increase heat under US *** to accelerate exit. I mentioned this multiple times already, the resistance is after purging US out of Middle East and that's going to happen not by war but by increasing US operating cost as well as politics.

 

[TheImmortal]

They hit just the outside the facility at Iraqi Kurdistan with Qiam. They also missed on purpose. The entire goal here was to create material damage and demo intention to descalate but also show a big stick.

As yavar and others have said, the real revenge will come. My guess is, they will start assassination campaign and increase heat under US *** to accelerate exit. I mentioned this multiple times already, the resistance is after purging US out of Middle East and that's going to happen not by war but by increasing US operating cost as well as politics.

Iran has already said it targeted only the Al-Asad base and not Erbil base. That was someone else they claim.

So again 50% accuracy. It seems Qiam missile has terrible accuracy based on strikes against ISIS and Kurdistan and now this as well. They could have hit the runways and with clusterwarhead and it would be far away from any people.

Iran should work to fix the issues

Operational effectiveness of this strike:
D+ or C-

There was also no active interceptors in the area. So Iran basically had free reign.

 

[Sina-1]

Operational effectiveness of this strike:
D+ or C-

From Iranian BM superpower perspective, sure. The damage could have been more decisive.

However it is still incredible accuracy on Fateh series. Amazing pin point <10m accuracy

 

[arashkamangir]

Iran has already said it targeted only the Al-Asad base and not Erbil base. That was someone else they claim.

So again 50% accuracy. It seems Qiam missile has terrible accuracy based on strikes against ISIS and Kurdistan and now this as well. They could have hit the runways and with clusterwarhead and it would be far away from any people.

Iran should work to fix the issues

Operational effectiveness of this strike:
D+ or C-

There was also no active interceptors in the area. So Iran basically had free reign.

Well, I am all for debugging and fixing reliability issues but at the same time, do we then have evidence that Qiam was fired at all?

 

[VEVAK]

Most likely this is the end of it, and everyone is gonna de-escalate.

Entegham e sakht. I'm sure the grass got a good shit kicking from those missiles.

Iran's intention was to send a message that we have missiles that have the range, accuracy & destructive power to take you on and your ABM systems even with advanced warning aren't sufficient enough to stop them.

Fact is due to advances made to Air Defense systems today plus the capabilities of U.S. Air Power even if Iran had a fleet of 200 Su-30's and 100 Su-34's they still wouldn't of been sufficient enough to carry out even this limited attack that the IRGC carried out and I think at home this should prove to Iranian leaders the importance of our missile program and how vital it is to increase funding to improve our capabilities and increase our stockpile and it's further prof of why Iran can NEVER negotiate on any part of our missile program.

Iran's missile attack showed that Iran both has the willingness and the capability to hit U.S. bases if attacked and Iran can hit U.S. bases using 100% domestically produced missiles so no naval blockade or sanction could ever stop the production of these missiles so if the U.S. starts a war with Iran they will have no control over how or when it would end.

I think for now Iran's response is sufficient and any further escalation needs to be at the time and place of our choosing so the real entegham may not come for years and it needs to be on our time table not theirs but for now it's time Iran's leadership pays better attention to our military industry and properly funds the expansion of our military through domestic production.
We have only just started the production of advanced SAM systems so we still need to build a sufficient stockpile, Iran's Submarine production needs far greater funding, we need to continue to increase our Cruise Missile & Ballistic Missiles stockpile, we need to increase our space activities, we need to vastly increase UAV & UCAV's to make up for our outdated Air Force.....

Well, I am all for debugging and fixing reliability issues but at the same time, do we then have evidence that Qiam was fired at all?

YES!
https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/...بکارگیری-موشک-های-قیام-در-عملیات-شهید-سلیمانی

 

[TheImmortal]

Well, I am all for debugging and fixing reliability issues but at the same time, do we then have evidence that Qiam was fired at all?

Yes Iran already said a mixture of Fatehs and Qiam were used.

Maybe Iran is burning through old generations of Qiam. But most missiles that fail or miss target have been Qiams.

It might be time to retire that missile if it hasn’t been retired already.

Iran's intention was to send a message that we have missiles that have the range, accuracy & destructive power to take you on and your ABM systems even with advanced warning aren't sufficient enough to stop them.

Fact is due to advances made to Air Defense systems today plus the capabilities of U.S. Air Power even if Iran had a fleet of 200 Su-30's and 100 Su-34's they still wouldn't of been sufficient enough to carry out even this limited attack that the IRGC carried out and I think at home this should prove to Iranian leaders the importance of our missile program and how vital it is to increase funding to improve our capabilities and increase our stockpile and it's further prof of why Iran can NEVER negotiate on any part of our missile program.

Iran's missile attack showed that Iran both has the willingness and the capability to hit U.S. bases if attacked and Iran can hit U.S. bases using 100% domestically produced missiles so no naval blockade or sanction could ever stop the production of these missiles so if the U.S. starts a war with Iran they will have no control over how or when it would end.

I think for now Iran's response is sufficient and any further escalation needs to be at the time and place of our choosing so the real entegham may not come for years and it needs to be on our time table not theirs but for now it's time Iran's leadership pays better attention to our military industry and properly funds the expansion of our military through domestic production.
We have only just started the production of advanced SAM systems so we still need to build a sufficient stockpile, Iran's Submarine production needs far greater funding, we need to continue to increase our Cruise Missile & Ballistic Missiles stockpile, we need to increase our space activities, we need to vastly increase UAV & UCAV's to make up for our outdated Air Force.....


YES!
https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/...بکارگیری-موشک-های-قیام-در-عملیات-شهید-سلیمانی

Iran will soon realize that CMs can do the same thing as BMs are cheaper cost. The fact no CMs were used in this attacks is outstanding stupid.

You are bragging about a missile strike on a DEFENELESS target that still resulted in 40-50% FAILURE RATE on a target the size of a small town!!!

Vevak’s propaganda machine is in full swing.

 

[skyshadow]

Satellite photos taken Wednesday show that an Iranian missile strike has caused extensive damage at the Ain al-Assad air base in Iraq, which hosts U.S. and coalition troops.

The photos, taken by the commercial company Planet and shared with NPR via the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey, show hangars and buildings hit hard by a barrage of Iranian missiles that were fired early Wednesday morning local time.

At least five structures were damaged in the attack on the base in Anbar province, which apparently was precise enough to hit individual buildings. "Some of the locations struck look like the missiles hit dead center," says David Schmerler, an analyst with the Middlebury Institute.

Iran's attack targeted at least two military bases in Iraq. The extent of the damage to the second base, in Irbil, was unclear.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/08/7945...-reveal-extent-of-damage-at-al-assad-air-base

 

[VEVAK]

Yes Iran already said a mixture of Fatehs and Qiam were used.

Maybe Iran is burning through old generations of Qiam. But most missiles that fail or miss target have been Qiams.

It might be time to retire that missile if it hasn’t been retired already.



Iran will soon realize that CMs can do the same thing as BMs are cheaper cost. The fact no CMs were used in this attacks is outstanding stupid.

You are bragging about a missile strike on a DEFENELESS target that still resulted in 40-50% FAILURE RATE on a target the size of a small town!!!

Vevak’s propaganda machine is in full swing.

Yea US Air Force bases are defenseless! LOL! CM's are far easier to intercept as was proven in Syria against American CM's!

FYI 50% success rate is rather standard for BM's and in an all out war that number would naturally reduce the more your fire.

And the Base is the size of a small town not the targets that were hit....

 

[TheImmortal]

Yea US Air Force bases are defenseless! LOL! CM's are far easier to intercept as was proven in Syria against American CM's!

FYI 50% success rate is rather standard for BM's and in an all out war that number would naturally reduce the more your fire.

And the Base is the size of a small town not the targets that were hit....

It has been confirmed there were no Missile interceptors around Al Assad. So wether you fired CMs or BMs there was nothing to shoot them down.

And 50% is a terrible BM rate. You think Russian/Chinese/US missiles that are nuclear tipped are gonna fail to reach their target and just fall out of the sky?

This means Iran needs to build twice as many missiles to account for the difference. I’m sorry a 100,000 missile force is stupid, costly, and impossible.

Conventional BMs are not the future for Iran.

Stop spreading propaganda Baghdad Bob and accept reality.

In due time I will be proven right like usual. Everyone here is acting like a nationalistic fanboy instead of looking at this from non-bias prospective.

This level of damage could have been done with just 2 SU-35s. But of course Vevak will tell you that US Patriot/THAAD missiles are invulnerable to aircraft and their only weakness is BMs. Lol sounds like we got a lobbyist for Iranian missile industry on this forum.

 

[Raghfarm007]

Video of Shock and awe carried out on the yanks:

If people really think that over 11 tons of high explosives didn´t kill a large number of yanks, then they must think that Rambo movies are documentaries!

 

[TheImmortal]

Video of Shock and awe carried out on the yanks:

If people really think that over 11 tons of high explosives didn´t kill a large number of yanks, then they must think that Rambo movies are documentaries!

Come on man give it a rest.

Nobody is hiding casualty numbers. Stop with the propaganda.

 

[yavar]

 

[Raghfarm007]

Why do you not think they are hiding casualties? You believe anything the US government says?
How many times do they have to lie, before you realise they are incapable of telling the truth?
Do you not remember when under Bush, they werent allowed to even photopraph US coffines coming home??!

Did you you see the severity of mutiple explosions in the video?
Did you read the NPR report saying that there were exrensive damage done to the base?

Do you think the "grab them by the pu$$y" guy is going to come and say we had over 100 deaths and over 200 injuries, in this electins year?