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[yavar]

 

[Arminkh]

It is not clear yet, but it seems that the fateh 110 and the Fajr 5 guided missile have been used

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This is amazing accuracy! Who needs bombers with this kind of accuracy?

Wrong!

This was IRGC Ground Forces operations aka IRGC Army.

Fateh 110 and BM’s are in control of IRGC Aerospace Command.

Furthermore, from the Instagram videos you can clearly see smoke trails and a low altitude ROCKET both while en route and upon launch from an MLRS like systems

Fateh-110 take a parabolic launch and launch at a much steeper angle.

Furthermore, they wouldn’t be recorded in flight as they traveling certainly with no smoke trail, because they are quasi-BM and thus reentrying at Mach 5+

Could they be Ya Ali cruise missiles? You can see one of the missile trusters going off rout in one of the videos

 

[TheImmortal]

This is amazing accuracy! Who needs bombers with this kind of accuracy?


Could they be Ya Ali cruise missiles? You can see one of the missile trusters going off rout in one of the videos

Unlikely, there is no indications Ya Ali cruise missiles are even operational.

The fast rapid fire rate points to an MLRS rocket system. Could be Fajr or Zelzal series or possibly a new improved rocket system. What’s intresting is the clean white smoke, it could be solid fuel using maybe a new propellant. I thought that Fajr and Zelzal had darker smoke exhausts.

Also Fateh’s cannot be fired that rapidly from a single TEL and would produce a lot more exhaust upon ignition.

Furthermore, i doubt Iran would be firing BMs near civilian roads for various reasons or keep TELS so closely next to one another For safety reasons.

Iran has a history of using rockets and artillery to target terrorists dating back decades.

 

[Websorber]

Iran able to export rockets solid fuel know-how

http://www.irna.ir/en/News/83027453

 

[yavar]

اختصاصی: اطلاعات جدید از عملیات موشکی سپاه علیه تروریست‌ها در اربیل/ شلیک ۷ فروند موشک فاتح۱۱۰ از فاصله ۲۲۰کیلومتری
به گزارش خبرنگار دفاعی خبرگزاری تسنیم، روز گذشته سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی با 7 فروند موشک زمین به زمین کوتاه‌برد فاتح 110 ــ B، مواضع تروریست‌های حزب دموکرات کردستان را با موفقیت هدف قرار داد.
این عملیات مهم، توسط یگان موشکی نیروی هوافضای سپاه انجام شده است و همزمان پهپادهای نیروی زمینی سپاه پاسداران نیز در آن مشارکت داشته‌اند.
تصاویر و فیلم‌هایی که توسط تروریست‌ها از این عملیات موشکی منتشر شده است، نشان می‌دهد که موشک‌های با دقت بسیار بالا به اهداف اصابت کرده و منجر به هلاکت بسیاری از سران و نیروهای این گروهک تروریستی شده است.
http://tn.ai/1824221

 

[TheImmortal]

اختصاصی: اطلاعات جدید از عملیات موشکی سپاه علیه تروریست‌ها در اربیل/ شلیک ۷ فروند موشک فاتح۱۱۰ از فاصله ۲۲۰کیلومتری
به گزارش خبرنگار دفاعی خبرگزاری تسنیم، روز گذشته سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی با 7 فروند موشک زمین به زمین کوتاه‌برد فاتح 110 ــ B، مواضع تروریست‌های حزب دموکرات کردستان را با موفقیت هدف قرار داد.
این عملیات مهم، توسط یگان موشکی نیروی هوافضای سپاه انجام شده است و همزمان پهپادهای نیروی زمینی سپاه پاسداران نیز در آن مشارکت داشته‌اند.
تصاویر و فیلم‌هایی که توسط تروریست‌ها از این عملیات موشکی منتشر شده است، نشان می‌دهد که موشک‌های با دقت بسیار بالا به اهداف اصابت کرده و منجر به هلاکت بسیاری از سران و نیروهای این گروهک تروریستی شده است.
http://tn.ai/1824221

Guess @VEVAK was right, I was incorrect

F-110 was used. Unless this video is about a different operation, my Farsi isn’t that great.

 

[VEVAK]

Guess @VEVAK was right, I was incorrect

F-110 was used. Unless this video is about a different operation, my Farsi isn’t that great.

It is NOT a different operation & it's headline news today with confirmation that it was Fatteh-110 variants that were launched are large guided rocket artilleries, an upgraded Zelzal basically
https://www.tasnimnews.com/

1st WHY would Iran fire MLRS from it's missile base on the eastern side of Urumieh lake into Iraq about 220km away????
2nd standard Farj-5's only have a 90kg payload (~200lb) so there is NO WAY they could have that much destructive power using conventional warheads and the destructive power shown was for a warhead 5 times that size! Plus unless a 2 stage or 1.5 stage with increased gliding capability of the Fajr-5 is built they wouldn't be able to achieve a range above 200km and due to the size of the payload you would need a CEP of under 5 meters at over 200km for it to be worth the additional cost
3rd The trajectory they took was standard for it's range and type of missile that was launched plus with the Fatteh-110 as long as you launch near 45 degrees the missile it's self should have the capability to adjust trajectory post launch allowing you to reduce launch time

 

[VEVAK]

This is amazing accuracy! Who needs bombers with this kind of accuracy?


Could they be Ya Ali cruise missiles? You can see one of the missile trusters going off rout in one of the videos

They were the Fatteh-110's and Iran fired 7 missiles and only 3 landed where they were spose too plus they were fatteh110 one the most accurate Ballistic Missile in our arsenal just imagine if we had to fire 7 missiles at single terrorist compound to simply take out a section of that facility how many missiles at an Air Force bases over 700km from Iranian soil would it take to disable an Air Base?

And that's why Iran needs Bombers, strike aircraft & Air Superiority fighters to protect them! Not for targets within ~500km of Iran but for targets beyond! FYI a Single F-4 flown from Tabriz Could have dropped up to 18 500lb PGM's that would have wiped out that entire facility

Now if Iran could build a large enough fleet of UCAV's that can fly most of the way autonomously and deliver sufficient payload per sortie with a combat radius of 1000km then yes

 

[raptor22]

They were the Fatteh-110's and Iran fired 7 missiles and only 3 landed where they were spose too plus they were fatteh110 one the most accurate Ballistic Missile in our arsenal just imagine if we had to fire 7 missiles at single terrorist compound to simply take out a section of that facility how many missiles at an Air Force bases over 700km from Iranian soil would it take to disable an Air Base?

And that's why Iran needs Bombers, strike aircraft & Air Superiority fighters to protect them! Not for targets within ~500km of Iran but for targets beyond! FYI a Single F-4 flown from Tabriz Could have dropped up to 18 500lb PGM's that would have wiped out that entire facility

Now if Iran could build a large enough fleet of UCAV's that can fly most of the way autonomously and deliver sufficient payload per sortie with a combat radius of 1000km then yes

در صد خطا که بالاست

 

[arashkamangir]

در صد خطا که بالاست

No please look through the forums stop spread misinformation. There were two seperate regions:
: 1.
The castle: footages show the direct hit in thr intended regions, look at the hit cluster density
2. Some other region which received direct hits but a much sparser cluster. This is visible from the footage that shows 3-4 smoke clouds rising at distance from.each other.

 

[VEVAK]

در صد خطا که بالاست

Doorosteh ballast! But its normal and it is not a problem specific to Iran rather a general problem with Ballistic Missiles!

CEP's of ballistic missiles like this are usually calculated by ~50% of your missiles missing hell even Air to Air missiles and SAM's if possible and there aren't too many targets they are usually fired in tandem against a single target
Although with newer missiles they have reduced that percentage but still there are too many things that could go wrong especially with Ballistic Missiles because even today in modern countries with SLV's that don't have to bother with reentry that have 100 people working on a single launch and a team of highly educated engineers inspecting every inch of the missiles and conduct various pre launch test, a team working on micro meteors & space debris, a team working on weather and atmospheric conditions, and various advanced sensors focused on a single launch… even than achieving an 80% success rate is a relatively high success rate for most countries

By the way according to VOA the American had made assurances to shoot down any Iranian missile that fly's into Iraqi Kurdistan and yet Iran managed to hit it's target

And at the very least it shows that if produced in a significant amount Iran can take out any target within 500km of Iranian soil but to make up for our lack of Airpower and to be able to take out Air bases using Missiles Iran would have to produce them at rates of ~1000 per year for each class Fatteh-110, Fatteh-313 & Zolfaghar with 100 Tel's per year for each class & 4-5 new large missile bases per year​

No please look through the forums stop spread misinformation. There were two seperate regions:
: 1.
The castle: footages show the direct hit in thr intended regions, look at the hit cluster density
2. Some other region which received direct hits but a much sparser cluster. This is visible from the footage that shows 3-4 smoke clouds rising at distance from.each other.

A 50% success rate with Ballistic Missiles is a NORMAL success rate for BM and Iran fired 7 Missiles of which 2 were direct hits and another 2 fell within 20 meters of the Missiles intended CEP which I would count as half hits so 3 out of 7 total

 

[raptor22]

Doorosteh ballast! But its normal and it is not a problem specific to Iran rather a general problem with Ballistic Missiles!

CEP's of ballistic missiles like this are usually calculated by ~50% of your missiles missing hell even Air to Air missiles and SAM's if possible and there aren't too many targets they are usually fired in tandem against a single target
Although with newer missiles they have reduced that percentage but still there are too many things that could go wrong especially with Ballistic Missiles because even today in modern countries with SLV's that don't have to bother with reentry that have 100 people working on a single launch and a team of highly educated engineers inspecting every inch of the missiles and conduct various pre launch test, a team working on micro meteors & space debris, a team working on weather and atmospheric conditions, and various advanced sensors focused on a single launch… even than achieving an 80% success rate is a relatively high success rate for most countries

By the way according to VOA the American had made assurances to shoot down any Iranian missile that fly's into Iraqi Kurdistan and yet Iran managed to hit it's target

And at the very least it shows that if produced in a significant amount Iran can take out any target within 500km of Iranian soil but to make up for our lack of Airpower and to be able to take out Air bases using Missiles Iran would have to produce them at rates of ~1000 per year for each class Fatteh-110, Fatteh-313 & Zolfaghar with 100 Tel's per year for each class & 4-5 new large missile bases per year​

A 50% success rate with Ballistic Missiles is a NORMAL success rate for BM and Iran fired 7 Missiles of which 2 were direct hits and another 2 fell within 20 meters of the Missiles intended CEP which I would count as half hits so 3 out of 7 total

بعضی ها می گن تعداد شلیک ها بیشتر از این بوده ..

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

بعضی ها می گن تعداد شلیک ها بیشتر از این بوده ..

Have you yourself seen any evidence to back up such claims?

 

[arashkamangir]

Doorosteh ballast! But its normal and it is not a problem specific to Iran rather a general problem with Ballistic Missiles!

CEP's of ballistic missiles like this are usually calculated by ~50% of your missiles missing hell even Air to Air missiles and SAM's if possible and there aren't too many targets they are usually fired in tandem against a single target
Although with newer missiles they have reduced that percentage but still there are too many things that could go wrong especially with Ballistic Missiles because even today in modern countries with SLV's that don't have to bother with reentry that have 100 people working on a single launch and a team of highly educated engineers inspecting every inch of the missiles and conduct various pre launch test, a team working on micro meteors & space debris, a team working on weather and atmospheric conditions, and various advanced sensors focused on a single launch… even than achieving an 80% success rate is a relatively high success rate for most countries

By the way according to VOA the American had made assurances to shoot down any Iranian missile that fly's into Iraqi Kurdistan and yet Iran managed to hit it's target

And at the very least it shows that if produced in a significant amount Iran can take out any target within 500km of Iranian soil but to make up for our lack of Airpower and to be able to take out Air bases using Missiles Iran would have to produce them at rates of ~1000 per year for each class Fatteh-110, Fatteh-313 & Zolfaghar with 100 Tel's per year for each class & 4-5 new large missile bases per year​

A 50% success rate with Ballistic Missiles is a NORMAL success rate for BM and Iran fired 7 Missiles of which 2 were direct hits and another 2 fell within 20 meters of the Missiles intended CEP which I would count as half hits so 3 out of 7 total

@VEVAK you are making these analysis base on zero empirical evidence. You do not know where targets were and where impacts occured with respect to them. I saw footage of direct hit to building, front of it and back of it.

 

[VEVAK]

@VEVAK you are making these analysis base on zero empirical evidence. You do not know where targets were and where impacts occured with respect to them. I saw footage of direct hit to building, front of it and back of it.

Even if as you say I didn't know, the info has been made public!
1st Images from multi hits on the headquarters whos width was no more than 20 meters that would have required a missiles with a CEP of under 10 meters
2nd A missile that hit in the Middle of the training compound ~20 meters off mark from intended CEP that the terrorist call a refugee center was shown by IRAN with UAV images made public by Iran
3rd A terrorist house that was hit info again made public by the terrorist themselves
4th 2 clear misses with 2 clear missile failures

Which in total is about a 50% success rate which again is fairly standard rate with Ballistic Missiles