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The Armour is the Streit group's 4x4:

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I don't believe they are the same, they look different.

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Most probably this is Law enforcement force(Police) MRAP project, we have seen its mock up some time ago.
 
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I don't believe they are the same, they look different.

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Most probably this is Law enforcement force(Police) MRAP project, we have seen its mock up some time ago.

The similarities are much more than its differences. Pay close attention to the side window area and the door etc.
If they have produced this themselves, then they should produce them in more numbers now, they need something like this fast and in large numbers. Later on they can start designing their own.
 
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Iran is clearly looking to and getting ready for the future battlefield

I think each Iranian solder needs to be equipped with and trained to handle at least 1 Unmanned vehicle and we should have a large enough stock for every man in the military!!!

Every Iranian Helicopter should be equipped with 1 armed MALE like the Shahed-129 directly connected to and controlled by the co-pilot & or special operator that can scout ahead.... I think we already have the tech to do it...

Finally I think very soon Iran needs to develop a separate branch dedicated to autonomous combat system with their own Air, Ground and Naval Force

Air drop 50 of these over Mosel equipped with self destruct (incase of capture ) and various type of weapons half on top of roof tops and half in the streets have 5 UAV for aerial support and an airborne command on an IR-140 flying around the city out of reach of fire and have your troops surround the city and attack them from inside and out with 4 automated bulldozers building trenches

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Iran is clearly looking to and getting ready for the future battlefield

I think each Iranian solder needs to be equipped with and trained to handle at least 1 Unmanned vehicle and we should have a large enough stock for every man in the military!!!

Every Iranian Helicopter should be equipped with 1 armed MALE like the Shahed-129 directly connected to and controlled by the co-pilot & or special operator that can scout ahead.... I think we already have the tech to do it...

Finally I think very soon Iran needs to develop a separate branch dedicated to autonomous combat system with their own Air, Ground and Naval Force

Air drop 50 of these over Mosel equipped with self destruct (incase of capture ) and various type of weapons half on top of roof tops and half in the streets have 5 UAV for aerial support and an airborne command on an IR-140 flying around the city out of reach of fire and have your troops surround the city and attack them from inside and out with 4 automated bulldozers building trenches

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Needed a huge amount of money I think ..
 
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Needed a huge amount of money I think ..

Not when we build our own & have our own raw material!!! As we have shown in the past we just have to make sure even the tool required to make those..... are Iranian as well!!

Every countries practical technological capabilities grow with and because of their military R&D & capability so as long as we are not using our defense budget to buy weapons from other ppl increasing Iran's defense budget allows for the theoretical to go to the practical and in every major power the Military has been the forefront of that progress

If we spend and increase Iran's military robotic capabilities tomorrow the same robotic technology will be applied to building and cleaning our houses and streets etc...!

Internet, cell phones, bigger airplanes, jet engines, microwave, flat screen TV's etc etc, was all created due to military funding & R&D...
The only way Iran will be at the forefront of technology is to increase domestic defense spending (Only Domestic)because that's the only way the amazing things that are today created in Iranian labs and published in international papers will become practical application

This is the way to create jobs for every Iranian across our nation!!!
 
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Not when we build our own & have our own raw material!!! As we have shown in the past we just have to make sure even the tool required to make those..... are Iranian as well!!

Every countries practical technological capabilities grow with and because of their military R&D & capability so as long as we are not using our defense budget to buy weapons from other ppl increasing Iran's defense budget allows for the theoretical to go to the practical and in every major power the Military has been the forefront of that progress

If we spend and increase Iran's military robotic capabilities tomorrow the same robotic technology will be applied to building and cleaning our houses and streets etc...!

Internet, cell phones, bigger airplanes, jet engines, microwave, flat screen TV's etc etc, was all created due to military funding & R&D...
The only way Iran will be at the forefront of technology is to increase domestic defense spending (Only Domestic)because that's the only way the amazing things that are today created in Iranian labs and published in international papers will become practical application

This is the way to create jobs for every Iranian across our nation!!!

Iran still has problems with its grounds forces. It needs modernization. I'm still seeing soldiers without body Armour, old camo and helmets, old guns, and amour when I watch videos/pictures of military exercises. Look at the what the Europeans have. For gods sake Hezbollah soldiers look better armed than our Artesh. We need standard issue guns, camo, body armor, helmets, drones in place for all our soldiers or we will never be able to compete with Western Armies. We need a standard modern Iranian MBT, god knows what happened to that Zulfaqar tank. The state of our ground forces is bad, what ever happened to that Sarbaz Velayat soldier plan?
 
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Iran still has problems with its grounds forces. It needs modernization. I'm still seeing soldiers without body Armour, old camo and helmets, old guns, and amour when I watch videos/pictures of military exercises. Look at the what the Europeans have. For gods sake Hezbollah soldiers look better armed than our Artesh. We need standard issue guns, camo, body armor, helmets, drones in place for all our soldiers or we will never be able to compete with Western Armies. We need a standard modern Iranian MBT, god knows what happened to that Zulfaqar tank. The state of our ground forces is bad, what ever happened to that Sarbaz Velayat soldier plan?

Hezbullah get all it's equipment from Iran and they are not better armed!! Active Iranian military forces on the ground don't go without Armor unless they choose too

Iran's been producing Bulletproof vests for well over a decade now and they are constantly improving on the design and quality

http://en.mehrnews.com/news/110900/Iran-makes-new-generation-of-bulletproof-vests
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921204000455

This is not an Issue at all!!!!

In terms of MBT, 1st off the day's of Tanks are done
2ndly Iran's terrain isn't really built for it
With the advent of more powerful ATGM Tanks are pretty much outdated. Today Iran has one of the top 5 largest stockpile of ATGM's in the world.
In the Iran-Iraq war Saddam had over 3 times the tank force and yet they couldn't even hold on to the little land they had gained in their initial invasion and were kicked out!

In the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq American ATGM's took out more Iraqi tanks than the Abrams

Syria has 4000 Tanks what good did that do them?

M1 Abrams costs about $9M USD
T-90 will cost you about $3-$4 Million USD
Humvee costs about $250K

For the cost of a single M-1 Abrams Iran can produce 1,000 Safir Jeeps armed with an single unguided weapon!

For the cost of a single T-90 Iran can build 200 of these

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And for a single price of a Humvee Iran can build 10-20 ATGM depending on the



Lose 10 of these to take out an Abrams and your still by far the winner


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add a few remotely operated weapons systems to it and you wont have to loose your guys while doing it




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So no adding more MBT is not and should not be a priority
 
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Hezbullah get all it's equipment from Iran and they are not better armed!! Active Iranian military forces on the ground don't go without Armor unless they choose too

Iran's been producing Bulletproof vests for well over a decade now and they are constantly improving on the design and quality


This is not an Issue at all!!!!

In terms of MBT, 1st off the day's of Tanks are done
2ndly Iran's terrain isn't really built for it
With the advent of more powerful ATGM Tanks are pretty much outdated. Today Iran has one of the top 5 largest stockpile of ATGM's in the world.
In the Iran-Iraq war Saddam had over 3 times the tank force and yet they couldn't even hold on to the little land they had gained in their initial invasion and were kicked out!

In the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq American ATGM's took out more Iraqi tanks than the Abrams

Syria has 4000 Tanks what good did that do them?

M1 Abrams costs about $9M USD
T-90 will cost you about $3-$4 Million USD
Humvee costs about $250K

For the cost of a single M-1 Abrams Iran can produce 1,000 Safir Jeeps armed with an single unguided weapon!

For the cost of a single T-90 Iran can build 200 of these

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And for a single price of a Humvee Iran can build 10-20 ATGM depending on the



Lose 10 of these to take out an Abrams and your still by far the winner


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add a few remotely operated weapons systems to it and you wont have to loose your guys while doing it




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So no adding more MBT is not and should not be a priority


I'm very well aware of the fantastic technology that has been developed. But not all of Iran's soldiers have bullet proof vests, or modern equipment. Perhaps they are doing their sarbazi and they are not volunteers. A big problem is that Iran makes great equipment but lacks the money to mass produce them quickly like other countries with higher defense budgets do.

You're right about producing tons for ATGMs rather than 1 tank it worth it in a mountainous country like Iran, but my concern is in that case our offensive ground capabilities become limited (Atleast until robotics warfare is mastered). But in terms of land warfare does Iran have the firepower to punch through a defensive line without those equipment. Iran invests alot in defensive weapons to meet its defense means but Iran also need to focus on offensive, excluding the missile technology and drones we don't have the ability to actually be aggressive. Our biggest problem in the Iran-Iraq war was our lack of logistics, and what concerns me is that we let the enemy fight in our soil instead of being able to fight in theirs.
 
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Hezbullah get all it's equipment from Iran and they are not better armed!! Active Iranian military forces on the ground don't go without Armor unless they choose too

Iran's been producing Bulletproof vests for well over a decade now and they are constantly improving on the design and quality

http://en.mehrnews.com/news/110900/Iran-makes-new-generation-of-bulletproof-vests
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921204000455

This is not an Issue at all!!!!

In terms of MBT, 1st off the day's of Tanks are done
2ndly Iran's terrain isn't really built for it
With the advent of more powerful ATGM Tanks are pretty much outdated. Today Iran has one of the top 5 largest stockpile of ATGM's in the world.
In the Iran-Iraq war Saddam had over 3 times the tank force and yet they couldn't even hold on to the little land they had gained in their initial invasion and were kicked out!

In the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq American ATGM's took out more Iraqi tanks than the Abrams

Syria has 4000 Tanks what good did that do them?

M1 Abrams costs about $9M USD
T-90 will cost you about $3-$4 Million USD
Humvee costs about $250K

For the cost of a single M-1 Abrams Iran can produce 1,000 Safir Jeeps armed with an single unguided weapon!

For the cost of a single T-90 Iran can build 200 of these

View attachment 341242

And for a single price of a Humvee Iran can build 10-20 ATGM depending on the



Lose 10 of these to take out an Abrams and your still by far the winner
no , you'll send 40 body-bag back home while the adversary send none. and replacing those trained personnel will be problem
also with your solution any dude with ak-47 can disable you and kill your soldier but I like them trying it with Abram
 
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no , you'll send 40 body-bag back home while the adversary send none. and replacing those trained personnel will be problem
also with your solution any dude with ak-47 can disable you and kill your soldier but I like them trying it with Abram

That's because you don't know the history of modern warfare's!

Even the most powerful country in the world (U.S.A) when they invaded Iraq before the Tanks went in they sent special op groups to go in armed with Javelin and other ATGM's to provide intel and take out Saddam's Tanks.

That's why U.S. ATGM took out more Iraqi Tanks than the Abrams!

If your troops instead of AK-47's were armed with ATGM then that Abrams is even more defenseless than some guy shooting at a Safir with an AK-47's

U.S. low casualty numbers during Iraq war has nothing to do with the Abrams tank!

1,Iraq was a badly beaten country by 2003 After 8 years of war with Iran Saddam attacked Kuwaiti and ever since then every single U.S. administration since then (1st US Gulf war) without exception carried out multiple massive bombing and cruise missile campaigns against Iraq's military. Iraq had no Navy, No Air Force & No Air Defense by the time the U.S. was done bombing them.

2.Intel gathering using UAV's. Once US invaded Iraq they ran in built up bases and bunkered down in their bases as quickly as possible and every time they wanted to send troops outside it was an operation that required UAV intel gathering before and during each operation. With Fighter, Helo's, Artillery,... Support ready to go on a moments notice.

3.Advances in light armor both body armor and vehicle armor if you shoot at a Humvee with an AK-47 then most likely than not your a dead man....
For the Safir 7 layers of Kevlar incased in fiberglass added on to the body will stop a bullet from an AK-47 and it's light enough to be added to the Safir for heavier vehicles you can add a few more layers compressed and incased in ceramics for increased protection

4.Advanced targeting & communication equipment and ability to quickly call in Air Support and Artillery support ready to go on command exactly where you need it.

5.And finally one of the most important reason behind the U.S. low death toll was medics with advanced tools in each group and their ability to do quick assessment and call in quick medical evacuations to their base that was equipped with high tech equipment and if required to transport quickly to an even high tech medical facility if required.


A combination of these factors and some others are what gave the U.S. low death tolls after the invasion not the Abrams tank!!!!

Tanks are dead!!!!

This is today


This is tomorrow



So your either investing in fighting the battles of tomorrow or the battles of yesterday!!!

Iran still needs heavily armored vehicles but we need heavily armored vehicles with troops inside that can send the remotely controlled vehicles up ahead in the front lines to dig trenches build basses attack the enemy,,,,,

Iran needs lighter cheaper and easier to mass produce weapons today you have Kevlar, fiberglass, carbon fiber,... you don't need tons of steel because tons of steel sill aren't going to protect you against ATGM and the fact is you have a far better chance developing thermal radars and countermeasures to protect you from them....
 
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