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25 missiles / per batch (minimum) x 109 batches = 2,725+ Almas missiles produced as of 2020 ...

Almas was only displayed publicly in 2021, by then 5,000-10,000+ may already have been produced!
The number that really counts is not so much the total number of missiles,but the number of launchers/firing posts produced,and as yet without looking at any date/sn on a firing post theres really no way of knowing that number.
In addition we dont really know if the batch numbers are for both drone launched and ground launched missiles,or if these are in fact 2 separate types.
 
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That picture is symbolic, otherwise there are enough videos proving uselessness of the most expensive tanks in urban warfare.
Symbolic of what? That tanks get parked when not in use? Did you think tank crew always sit in tanks 24/7 and sit somewhere like a sniper?

Most videos don’t show destruction. For all these claims of 100+ destroyed vehicles by Baghdad Bobs you would think someone had a smart phone in Gaza to capture a picture of the tank after the fact. In 2006 years before mass smart phone adoption, we had pics of destroyed Merkava by HZ. Yet today in 2023, magically all we get is videos during the fact with the outcome uncertain.

Also Merkava is hardly the “most expensive tank”. It cost roughly the same as a T-90. The tank iran desperately is trying to copy.

Nonetheless, Iran’s ancient T-72’s or irani T-90 (Karrar) wouldn’t fare much better in tight streets of Gaza. That’s because tanks aren’t ment to travel alone or sit in urban streets exposed on all sides to quick attacks without infantry support around.

But again why speak factual to people who listen to fake news.

Yeah. Although, their could be some possible exaggerations because the SN can just start from 20 or 10 or whatever number they want. We would need more samples to get a clearer picture. Still pleased to see mass production and adapotion. Probably around 700mm RHA penetration on top. Which is quite solid.

Encouraging sign. Personally the vehicle mounted TV guided anti tank version shown off is much more intresting. If you can stick one on safirs and various vehicles then you can drive to a location fire and have operator guide it to the target. Then drive off.

These tripods require at least a team effort. Hence why Javelin is liked over spike. Nonetheless, top attack munitions are better.

I just think the future is stand off motorized ATGMs, think the S-136 of ATGMs cheaper to produce and shorter range, but easy OTH launch protecting crew without LOS needed.

The number that really counts is not so much the total number of missiles,but the number of launchers/firing posts produced,and as yet without looking at any date/sn on a firing post theres really no way of knowing that number.
In addition we dont really know if the batch numbers are for both drone lunched and ground launched missiles,or if these are in fact 2 separate types.

Also a good point. Usually the missile to launcher ratio is something like 5 to 1 or higher.

But we have to remember spike is primarily used as a drone munition these days. So India’s order was the A2G version. Most countries don’t heavily produce ATGMs as their use is much more limited than slapping it on a drone where it can be use in border patrol, insurgency operations, drug trafficking, and target assassinations.
 
Does the $4 million Merkava IV survive well in urban warfare?!

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even if you use 40 million tanks it won't last in urban warfare if you use it like Russia or Israel .the Russian send it in alone without accompanying infantry and Israeli soldiers hide inside it

That picture is symbolic, otherwise there are enough videos proving uselessness of the most expensive tanks in urban warfare.
to be honest very few video of destruction but a lot video of hit . Palestinian already claimed destruction of more than 1/3rd of Israel tanks do you believe that correct numbers
 
Iranian forces are the most experienced combat unit in middle east , they been rotating in and out of Syria , learning to counter western ISR and western armed ISIS and along with hezbollah commandos they both are the most potent warriors in the region. Professional and Morale too compared to the cruel and immoral IDF whose combat experience only from harrasing and bullying unarmed ppl in checkpoints.
Correct. But it’s more than that. Iranian combat experience is at global level. The only nation that technically exceeds Iran is the US. The reasons are obvious. Add to that the prevalent US gun culture which brings innate experience.

This is where faith and belief need to become the great equalizer. Where Iran excels.
 
The lack of Almas use by HZ, points to a higher cost. Hasn’t spread to proxy groups yet.
Hezbollah never shows its new weapons that quickly. So far it is using Kornets like candies

In addition we dont really know if the batch numbers are for both drone lunched and ground launched missiles,or if these are in fact 2 separate types.
True but great numbers regardless. Air launched versions are useful for Iran and ground launched versions are useful for the Resistance Axis allies. Hopefully already delivered to Hezbollah in large numbers.

The number that really counts is not so much the total number of missiles,but the number of launchers/firing posts produced,and as yet without looking at any date/sn on a firing post theres really no way of knowing that number.
True but launchers can be reused since they are only 35kg, very mobile for a team of 2-3 ATGM operators

Advantage of Spike also is the launcher can be concealed and operators can fire it from a safer distance
 
even if you use 40 million tanks it won't last in urban warfare if you use it like Russia or Israel .the Russian send it in alone without accompanying infantry and Israeli soldiers hide inside it


to be honest very few video of destruction but a lot video of hit . Palestinian already claimed destruction of more than 1/3rd of Israel tanks do you believe that correct numbers
Gen. Salami says out of 1600 tanks, Israelis have lost 180 tanks already.
رژیم صهیونیستی باید بازهم منتظر طوفان‌های دیگری باشد/ بزرگترین امپراطوری دنیا قتل کودکان را افتخار می‌داند - مشرق نیوز


There was a report of satellite images in which the number of armored vehicles involving Gaza strike had reduced from 383 to 295 too.

It's truly the holocaust of Merkava tanks, exact numbers is a side story.
 
Symbolic of what? That tanks get parked when not in use? Did you think tank crew always sit in tanks 24/7 and sit somewhere like a sniper?

Most videos don’t show destruction. For all these claims of 100+ destroyed vehicles by Baghdad Bobs you would think someone had a smart phone in Gaza to capture a picture of the tank after the fact. In 2006 years before mass smart phone adoption, we had pics of destroyed Merkava by HZ. Yet today in 2023, magically all we get is videos during the fact with the outcome uncertain.

Also Merkava is hardly the “most expensive tank”. It cost roughly the same as a T-90. The tank iran desperately is trying to copy.

Nonetheless, Iran’s ancient T-72’s or irani T-90 (Karrar) wouldn’t fare much better in tight streets of Gaza. That’s because tanks aren’t ment to travel alone or sit in urban streets exposed on all sides to quick attacks without infantry support around.
When you pack all the options into the tank (as Zionists like to do), then it becomes the most expensive, regardless of the tank.

But again why speak factual to people who listen to fake news.
lol, did you study the timeline of our missiles, or still can't distinguish the early versions of Qiam with dumb warhead, from pin-point accurate ones?!
 

General Salami is not a credible figure in IRGC. Known propagandist. The same guy also said on day of attack Hamas didn’t suffer a single casualty. He also unveiled a metal rod that detected COVID.

And again: It’s not hard to take pictures of even 25 destroyed tanks. 2.5M people in Gaza and no one can capture a photo? But everyone can take 100 pictures of a hospital?

There was a report of satellite images in which the number of armored vehicles involving Gaza strike had reduced from 383 to 295 too.

A “report” aka fake BS. If you have satellite images please do share. Don’t hold back.

It's truly the holocaust of Merkava tanks, exact numbers is a side story.

The only Holocaust is how many brain cells you obliterated in a years time. Dumber than ever eh Mohsen?

When you pack all the options into the tank (as Zionists like to do), then it becomes the most expensive, regardless of the tank.

Prices are available on open source. Merkava 3 and Merkava 4 are relatively on the lower end of a MBT in terms of cost.

So yes ~4M is a bargain when compared to Turkish Atlay at 13-14M.

I’m sure if Iran revealed a Merkava clone you would be singing high praises. And for someone who calls western equipment junk it’s ironic many of the Iranian military weapons is based on western or Russian designs.
  • New Tanks are Russian based
  • MRAPs are Western based
  • Drones are American or Israeli based (or German in case of S-136)
  • ATGM are Israeli or American or Russian
  • Cruise missiles are Chinese and Russian based
  • PGMs and A2A again western based
  • Fastest Iranian speedboat is British design
  • Mowj is British based design
  • List goes on and on
 
General Salami is not a credible figure in IRGC. Known propagandist. The same guy also said on day of attack Hamas didn’t suffer a single casualty. He also unveiled a metal rod that detected COVID.

And again: It’s not hard to take pictures of even 25 destroyed tanks. 2.5M people in Gaza and no one can capture a photo? But everyone can take 100 pictures of a hospital?



A “report” aka fake BS. If you have satellite images please do share. Don’t hold back.



The only Holocaust is how many brain cells you obliterated in a years time. Dumber than ever eh Mohsen?



Prices are available on open source. Merkava 3 and Merkava 4 are relatively on the lower end of a MBT in terms of cost.

So yes ~4M is a bargain when compared to Turkish Atlay at 13-14M.

I’m sure if Iran revealed a Merkava clone you would be singing high praises. And for someone who calls western equipment junk it’s ironic many of the Iranian military weapons is based on western or Russian designs.
  • New Tanks are Russian based
  • MRAPs are Western based
  • Drones are American or Israeli based (or German in case of S-136)
  • ATGM are Israeli or American or Russian
  • Cruise missiles are Chinese and Russian based
  • PGMs and A2A again western based
  • Fastest Iranian speedboat is British design
  • Mowj is British based design
  • List goes on and on

Is there a reason as to why idiots like Salami are allowed to continue their nonsensical behavior and have a job?

One shutters to imagine that the reason he is still employed is because he’s friends with other IRGC members and they’re simply looking out for him.
 
Prices are available on open source. Merkava 3 and Merkava 4 are relatively on the lower end of a MBT in terms of cost.

So yes ~4M is a bargain when compared to Turkish Atlay at 13-14M.
Azarmehr says it the most heavily armored tank in the world with the ability to carry infantry so I'm surprised its cheaper than others. Probably due to domestic construction? Also the jury rigged turret cage recently seen seems to be an effective solution to munitions being dropped by quadcopter.
 
General Salami is not a credible figure in IRGC. Known propagandist. The same guy also said on day of attack Hamas didn’t suffer a single casualty. He also unveiled a metal rod that detected COVID.

And again: It’s not hard to take pictures of even 25 destroyed tanks. 2.5M people in Gaza and no one can capture a photo? But everyone can take 100 pictures of a hospital?



A “report” aka fake BS. If you have satellite images please do share. Don’t hold back.



The only Holocaust is how many brain cells you obliterated in a years time. Dumber than ever eh Mohsen?



Prices are available on open source. Merkava 3 and Merkava 4 are relatively on the lower end of a MBT in terms of cost.

So yes ~4M is a bargain when compared to Turkish Atlay at 13-14M.

I’m sure if Iran revealed a Merkava clone you would be singing high praises. And for someone who calls western equipment junk it’s ironic many of the Iranian military weapons is based on western or Russian designs.
  • New Tanks are Russian based
  • MRAPs are Western based
  • Drones are American or Israeli based (or German in case of S-136)
  • ATGM are Israeli or American or Russian
  • Cruise missiles are Chinese and Russian based
  • PGMs and A2A again western based
  • Fastest Iranian speedboat is British design
  • Mowj is British based design
  • List goes on and on
Oh yes, the credible source is IDF and their daily fake stories about munitions and Hamas fighters inside the Gaza hospitals!

Israeli terrorists even shoot at hospital staffs inside hospital and you expect Gaza people to show themselves up and film them! by the electricity which they don't have and uploading with none existing internet!

yeah sure, now do a brain checkup.

And based on open sources, you actually think Merkava IV with all of it's critical technologies (the reason US/Israel wont allow it's export) is cheaper than turkish none-existing blah blah, while the later is still struggling with engine issue! good for you.

don't miss the check up.
 
Encouraging sign. Personally the vehicle mounted TV guided anti tank version shown off is much more intresting. If you can stick one on safirs and various vehicles then you can drive to a location fire and have operator guide it to the target. Then drive off.

These tripods require at least a team effort. Hence why Javelin is liked over spike. Nonetheless, top attack munitions are better.

I just think the future is stand off motorized ATGMs, think the S-136 of ATGMs cheaper to produce and shorter range, but easy OTH launch protecting crew without LOS needed.
Whatever those ATVs they were using to put a twin kornet launcher on was excellent idea for mobile hit and run squads. Something with good off-road capability. Unfortunately, Saffir is little rigid but I think Aras would be a good platform, with an additional 3 or so Almas missiles stored in the rear trunk. Almas-LR 8-10km should be installed on this.

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Oh yes, the credible source is IDF and their daily fake stories about munitions and Hamas fighters inside the Gaza hospitals!

Israeli terrorists even shoot at hospital staffs inside hospital and you expect Gaza people to show themselves up and film them! by the electricity which they don't have and uploading with none existing internet!

yeah sure, now do a brain checkup.

And based on open sources, you actually think Merkava IV with all of it's critical technologies (the reason US/Israel wont allow it's export) is cheaper than turkish none-existing blah blah, while the later is still struggling with engine issue! good for you.

don't miss the check up.
Salami has a habbit of exaggerating all the time.

I’m sure if Iran revealed a Merkava clone you would be singing high praises. And for someone who calls western equipment junk it’s ironic many of the Iranian military weapons is based on western or Russian designs.
  • New Tanks are Russian based
  • MRAPs are Western based
  • Drones are American or Israeli based (or German in case of S-136)
  • ATGM are Israeli or American or Russian
  • Cruise missiles are Chinese and Russian based
  • PGMs and A2A again western based
  • Fastest Iranian speedboat is British design
  • Mowj is British based design
  • List goes on and on
Can't argue with that lol
 
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Oh yes, the credible source is IDF and their daily fake stories about munitions and Hamas fighters inside the Gaza hospitals!
General Salami is a patriot and deserves respect for his service to Iran in the imposed war. However, he is also a liability for Iran due to his stupidity and illogical boastful speeches.

Of course the IDF lies about everything, you don't have to convince us about that.
 
The BBC exposes IDF lies and video manipulation tactics about Al-Shifa hospital:


IDF manipulates all videos and lies constantly.

Israel 'revised' their casualty estimates down from 1400 killed to 1200 killed recently, I guess they resurrected 200 Jews back to life. They admit to c. 440 IDF/combatants (including Shin Bet and police officers) killed. That's 37% (at least) of their total Israelis killed being combatants (probably higher given Israeli propensity to lie).

Now compare to the c. 11,700 Palestinians the Israelis have killed (in Gaza and the West Bank). More than 8,000 of these are women and children, and 1,000 more are elderly non-combatants, doctors and UN staff. Another 3,250 civilians are missing and probably buried dead under the rubble. So from c. 15,000 killed Palestinians, AT MOST 2,000-3,000 are combatants. That's 13-20% (at most) of the total Palestinians killed being combatants (in reality likely much lower, some say as low as 1%).

So which side takes more care to minimise civilian casualties? Which side is the terrorist?
 
The BBC exposes IDF lies and video manipulation tactics about Al-Shifa hospital:


IDF manipulates all videos and lies constantly.

Israel 'revised' their casualty estimates down from 1400 killed to 1200 killed recently, I guess they resurrected 200 Jews back to life. They admit to c. 440 IDF/combatants (including Shin Bet and police officers) killed. That's 37% (at least) of their total Israelis killed being combatants (probably higher given Israeli propensity to lie).

Now compare to the c. 11,700 Palestinians the Israelis have killed (in Gaza and the West Bank). More than 8,000 of these are women and children, and 1,000 more are elderly non-combatants, doctors and UN staff. Another 3,250 civilians are missing and probably buried dead under the rubble. So from c. 15,000 killed Palestinians, AT MOST 2,000-3,000 are combatants. That's 13-20% (at most) of the total Palestinians killed being combatants (in reality likely much lower, some say as low as 1%).

So which side takes more care to minimise civilian casualties? Which side is the terrorist?
That's 13-20% (at most) of the total Palestinians killed being combatants
This is very, very generous
 

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