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Yeah, it would be ideal for storming a hideout or if there was a trench in danger of being overrun. Americuckwans used shotguns really effectively in trenches back in WWI.
don't work that well if enemy wore body armor . its more used by police and law enforcement when attacking a building
 
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No body armour provides complete protection against frag rounds at such close range, especially not the neck, hands and face.
body armors protect the neck and and helmet protect the head , the problem is face . and well that's not that much of the problem at 15-20m . and when you go to war you target the widest possible target aka abdomen and torso not limbs or head

at least that was what we were taught when we were conscripted
 
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body armors protect the neck and and helmet protect the head , the problem is face . and well that's not that much of the problem at 15-20m . and when you go to war you target the widest possible target aka abdomen and torso not limbs or head

at least that was what we were taught when we were conscripted
Just aim centre mass but a bit higher - the spread will shred their faces to mincemeat.
 
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Just aim centre mass but a bit higher - the spread will shred their faces to mincemeat.
for that you need discipline , you can\t expect that from conscript . we were happy if the conscripts didn't ran out of the 90 bullets assigned to them in the first minutes of the clashes . and learned how to manage their ammunition . or even just don't spray the bullets when they could see the targets and actually try to fire at the general direction of the enemy
 
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Man, now I want the IRGC's Ground Force to be issued these for CQC, especially in Syrian/Iraqi theaters; Hezbollah would do well with it too in Lebanon.

No one does CQC with shotguns, they do it with carbines, taking advantage of the short barrel length and intermediate cartridge. The only real use for shotguns in CQC is breaching.
 
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If you aim for the genitals, there's no recovering from that, no protection there either, unlike the head and upper body (helmet and vest) 99% of victims will die from pain and shock. That's what I've heard.

Just aim centre mass but a bit higher - the spread will shred their faces to mincemeat.
 
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Looks like Iran managed to reverse engineer Switchblade drone given to Ukraine.
Are you sure it wasn’t just a homegrown product the Iranian built themselves, seems quick for mass production like of a reverse engineered weapon like that has only been on the books in Ukraine for several month.
 
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Are you sure it wasn’t just a homegrown product the Iranian built themselves, seems quick for mass production like of a reverse engineered weapon like that has only been on the books in Ukraine for several month.

Check the thread, it may predate the conflict by a year or two. Though given the corruption in AFU I wouldn't be surprised if a switchblade made its way to Iran, there is already Javelins and Stingers showing up on the black market.
 
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