Iranian forces to liberate Palestine if attacked

[lem34]

I have heard on a number of occasions the iranian president state that its american interference and that he believes they are trying to sow the seeds of dischord amongst muslims. I wish saudi would say similar and agree with you both countries should make an effort

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You a neutral?? Ha joke of the day here. King Abdullah met Ahmadenijad in mena back in 2007 but it was not made a big news of because that would mean closer relation with Saudi Arabia an idea that neither Iran nor the US want to give.

You see Saudi Arabia is totally against any military action on Iran because that would set the region on fire and WE DO NOT WANT WARS AT ALL.

Mossa dont get me started. I am definatly not anti arab nor pro iran. If i met arab or iranian generally I would treat them as nuslim brothers Disliking 1 family in a country does not make me an enemy of a whole nation

 

[somebozo]

some bozo my dear man i respect u a great deal but know what i hate it when u say such important things with out givivng any sound logic or facts to back ur self

I never said iranians killed palestinians
and i know u don't hate americans or israelies as one of ur countrymen acknowledged that ur ayatollahs did gr8 service to them once and may be more but it is not known yet

TARIQ

They returned the favour by nurturing Ayatollahs in France under the kind guardianship of french and British intelligence and then installing them as the rulers of Persia!

The Fatmid rulers of Egypt did not commit any resources in protecting Palestine and literally gave it on a golden platter to the crusaders. They were far more intrested in playing "politics of vizers" in Cairo..and this is a historical fact. Thats why Salahuddin realized that the root of call problems is the Fatmids and in order to recapture Palestine, he must root out the Fatmid rulers of Egypt.

Maudud, a Seljuk officer from Mosul, was the first to take up the challenge. In 1113, he defeated King Baldwin of Jerusalem in a series of skirmishes. But Fatimid assassins murdered Maudud in 1127. Another Turkish officer, Zengi, continued Maudud’s work. Zengi was a first rate soldier, a man of righteousness, fairness and piety. He ruled with firm justice, making no distinction between a Turk and a non-Turk. In 1144, Zengi captured the city of Edessa. This provoked a new Crusade in which Emperor Conrad of Germany and Bernard of France took part. Zengi inflicted a crushing defeat on the invaders, forcing the Germans and the Franks to withdraw. But two events took place that delayed the task of expelling the Franks from Jerusalem. In 1141, the Seljuks suffered a major defeat from the pagan Turkoman Kara Khitai at the banks of the Amu Darya. In 1146, the Fatimid assassins murdered Zengi himself.

See the bolded parts, the Fatmid hypocrisy and complicity with the crusaders was eventually revealed and Salahudin eventually realized that Muslims were being stabbed in the back by friendly impersonaters.

Full account:
Salahuddin Ayyubi « History of Islam

So any anti-Israel diatribe coming from Iran should be taken as a case of bad propoganda. In reality neither Israel nor Iran has any land borders or sea capability to attack each other. It is just war of words much like how Talibans wanted to wage Jihad on USA while sitting in Afghanistan with no sea and no Navy!

Also declaring Kurds as some form of Jinn is hilarious, I will appreciate if someone can forward me an evidence. We heard all sort of such things from fellow mullahs but lest I don't believe until evidence has been provided.

somebozo is so anti Iran that even an attack of Israel against Iran is a cooperation between the two countries
it is kind of taliban logic lol

I am not anti-iran or anything, I have always appreciated Iran accomplishment and achievements. I am opposed to the clergy ruling Iran because they are the source of disaccord and divisions among Muslims. Iran would have been better today if Mossadegh survived!

 

[Mosamania]

They returned the favour by nurturing Ayatollahs in France under the kind guardianship of french and British intelligence and then installing them as the rulers of Persia!

The Fatmid rulers of Egypt did not commit any resources in protecting Palestine and literally gave it on a golden platter to the crusaders. They were far more intrested in playing "politics of vizers" in Cairo..and this is a historical fact. Thats why Salahuddin realized that the root of call problems is the Fatmids and in order to recapture Palestine, he must root out the Fatmid rulers of Egypt.



See the bolded parts, the Fatmid hypocrisy and complicity with the crusaders was eventually revealed and Salahudin eventually realized that Muslims were being stabbed in the back by friendly impersonaters.

Full account:
Salahuddin Ayyubi « History of Islam

So any anti-Israel diatribe coming from Iran should be taken as a case of bad propoganda. In reality neither Israel nor Iran has any land borders or sea capability to attack each other. It is just war of words much like how Talibans wanted to wage Jihad on USA while sitting in Afghanistan with no sea and no Navy!

Also declaring Kurds as some form of Jinn is hilarious, I will appreciate if someone can forward me an evidence. We heard all sort of such things from fellow mullahs but lest I don't believe until evidence has been provided.




I am not anti-iran or anything, I have always appreciated Iran accomplishment and achievements. I am opposed to the clergy ruling Iran because they are the source of disaccord and divisions among Muslims. Iran would have been better today if Mossadegh survived!

That was a bit harsh don't you think?? I mean sure Fatimid and the new Iran regime share a lot of similarities but to put it this way was a bit harsh.

 

[Hussein]

Brother salahuddine in order to liberate alquds had to finish the fatimiya ( shia ) empire in egypt, so iranians and its supporters don't like him and curse him due to which kurds r some kind of jin ( جن ) in their ideology.

Tariq salam
I just remind myself something i spoke to A Frenchie not a long time ago.
An exemple that history even the worst doesn't make the hatred of people of my country.

In the time of Timur , he commited a massacre in Iran: we say that in Esfahan and around , he asked his soldier to give him 100 000 heads of young men: they behead the young men. But they didn't find enough fast so they took the girls and destroyed their faces so they are not recognized as women.

You think we hate mongols? Not at all.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Tariq salam
I just remind myself something i spoke to A Frenchie not a long time ago.
An exemple that history even the worst doesn't make the hatred of people of my country.

In the time of Timur , he commited a massacre in Iran: we say that in Esfahan and around , he asked his soldier to give him 100 000 heads of young men: they behead the young men. But they didn't find enough fast so they took the girls and destroyed their faces so they are not recognized as women.

You think we hate mongols? Not at all.

Assalam alaikum

Hussein out of all the iranian posters over here i like u more then any other
do u know timor was a shia?

TARIQ

 

[Mosamania]

Assalam alaikum

Hussein out of all the iranian posters over here i like u more then any other
do u know timor was a shia?

TARIQ

Timur Link or Tamerlane was never clear on which did he stand. His religious mentor was a shia called Sayyed Barakah and Timur himself held Held Ali and Hussien in extremely high regards to the point that he was called by some scholars as an Alid fanatic however he fought shia and on that point it became unclear.

 

[somebozo]

Assalam alaikum

Hussein out of all the iranian posters over here i like u more then any other
do u know timor was a shia?

TARIQ

And ever more Ironic are the Persian hero Ibn Alqami the vizer of Abbasid Khalifa Al-Mutassim duped him into leaving Baghdad defenseless and co-operated with the Halaku forces in ransacking of Baghdad in hopes to be appointed as the Governor of the region under the new Mongol Empire but all he got was a low-level government servant rank!

And this is not some Arab ala bala rant but a historic fact mentioned by Eastern and Western writers throughout!

Timur Link or Tamerlane was never clear on which did he stand. His religious mentor was a shia called Sayyed Barakah and Timur himself held Held Ali and Hussien in extremely high regards to the point that he was called by some scholars as an Alid fanatic however he fought shia and on that point it became unclear.

Timur became a relatively popular figure in Europe for centuries after his death, mainly because of his victory over the Ottoman Sultan Bayezid. The Ottoman armies were at the time invading Eastern Europe and Timur was ironically seen as a sort of ally.

Most of the Mongoliod dynasties were Shia, and their campaigns heavily destabilized the Muslim world. In Pakistan, the Hazara Shia are rumored to be decedents of Mongols and are regularly targetted due to historic nostalgia against Mongols!

You can see on whose side he was because there is no reason to attacks the Ottomans (Sunni) who were busy in their European campaigns. By doing this, he indirectly liberated the Europeans from Ottoman invasions!

And then there was the Persian hero, Al-Tusi who joined the invader forces once the time was ripe!

As the armies of Genghis Khan swept his homeland, he fled to join the Ismailis and made his most important contributions in science during this time when he was moving from one stronghold to another. He finally joined Hulagu Khan's ranks, after the invasion of the Alamut castle by the Mongol forces.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Timur Link or Tamerlane was never clear on which did he stand. His religious mentor was a shia called Sayyed Barakah and Timur himself held Held Ali and Hussien in extremely high regards to the point that he was called by some scholars as an Alid fanatic however he fought shia and on that point it became unclear.

Assalam alaikum

All the wrath of timor was on muslims and might if u check the killing by him as hussein mentioned could be sunnies. he almost destroyed othman khilafa, sultan bayazid yaldrum was kept in cage like animal. he only killed muslims never invaded a non muslim land.

TARIQ

 

[Mosamania]

And ever more Ironic, the Persian hero Al-Tusi, the vizer of Abbasid Khalifa Al-Mutassim duped him into leaving Baghdad defenseless and co-operated with the Halaku forces in ransacking of Baghdad in hopes to be appointed as the Governor of the region under the new Mongol Empire but all he got was a low-level government servant rank!

And this is not some Arab ala bala rant but a historic fact mentioned by Eastern and Western writers throughout!

some people might ask how is this even remotely relevant to this thread somebozo.. I say perhaps Khmoueni's revolution and all the people you mentioned were motivated by the same ideological background and pretty much all of them have the very same and exact ambitions. At least this is how it appears to me. And I am not saying I am 100% correct.

 

[Meengla]

some bozo my dear man i respect u a great deal but know what i hate it when u say such important things with out givivng any sound logic or facts to back ur self

Because @Somebozo and our Zia-ul-Haq avatar bearer Salman are too sectarian to see the larger picture. Both of them have Saudi Arabian connection. Perhaps it is in the air there.

Fact is that the 'Arab Street'--yes, the Sunni Arab street, showed massive support A'Jad and Nasrallah during the Israel-Lebanon war in 2006. That's a reality. The rulers, sadly, seem like clever-by-half smart-a$$es so far.

I will say this again: Short of using nukes I don't see Iran losing out in the long run. And I also think once horrific images of fellow Muslims--even if Shia--being killed then it will light the entire region in revolt. All bets will be off then. Will Pakistanis standby if htens of thousands of Iranians are slaughtered in Dresden like carpet bombing? Would the Chinese and/or Russian not see it fit to bleed the NATO mortally?

Wars are easy to start. Okay, easy enough if you are leaders like GW Bush. But events take their own course once wars start.

Again, in my understanding, I don't see any scenario where Iran will be the ultimate loser if nukes are not involved. Let's just hope we don't come to test that.

 

[Mosamania]

Assalam alaikum

All the wrath of timor was on muslims and might if u check the killing by him as hussein mentioned could be sunnies. he almost destroyed othman khilafa, sultan bayazid yaldrum was kept in cage like animal. he only killed muslims never invaded a non muslim land.

TARIQ

I have a feeling he called the Ottoman Empire a European puppet lol.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

war is not gonna happen iranians r very smart they will dodge it , no chance of war

TARIQ

 

[Mosamania]

war is not gonna happen iranians r very smart they will dodge it , no chance of war

TARIQ

A war will destroy the GCC and cut off its rise a huge economical world bloc. Something that is very very very in Israel's interests.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Because @Somebozo and our Zia-ul-Haq avatar bearer Salman are too sectarian to see the larger picture. Both of them have Saudi Arabian connection. Perhaps it is in the air there.

Fact is that the 'Arab Street'--yes, the Sunni Arab street, showed massive support A'Jad and Nasrallah during the Israel-Lebanon war in 2006. That's a reality. The rulers, sadly, seem like clever-by-half smart-a$$es so far.

I will say this again: Short of using nukes I don't see Iran losing out in the long run. And I also think once horrific images of fellow Muslims--even if Shia--being killed then it will light the entire region in revolt. All bets will be off then. Will Pakistanis standby if htens of thousands of Iranians are slaughtered in Dresden like carpet bombing? Would the Chinese and/or Russian not see it fit to bleed the NATO mortally?

Wars are easy to start. Okay, easy enough if you are leaders like GW Bush. But events take their own course once wars start.

Again, in my understanding, I don't see any scenario where Iran will be the ultimate loser if nukes are not involved. Let's just hope we don't come to test that.

i agree many had cheered hizb stand in 2006, but there was no warm feelings for najad.

the situation in syria have turn the tables now, hizb is seen as an enemy to the syrian public and same goes for iran and u can clearly hear the chanting against iran and hizb in syria. arab masses r very emotional about syria.

Nobody like dead bodies but they have seen their own brothers bodies drilled in iraq by the iranian supported grps

iran should distance itself from bashar and same goes for hizb

TARIQ

 

[somebozo]

some people might ask how is this even remotely relevant to this thread somebozo.. I say perhaps Khmoueni's revolution and all the people you mentioned were motivated by the same ideological background and pretty much all of them have the very same and exact ambitions. At least this is how it appears to me. And I am not saying I am 100% correct.

And you will be surprised if it isn't. Read the history, through out they have carried the same agenda..to weaken the Muslims from within and gaining support of the ignorant with fairy tales, be it collaboration with the Mongols or with Europeans. You will be surprised how Iran, once regarded as the power house of knowledge and creed of Sunni Scholars was cleansed on the edge of sword

A war will destroy the GCC and cut off its rise a huge economical world bloc. Something that is very very very in Israel's interests.

So now you realize the treacherous plan Mosa? On whose account they are actually playing?? All the chants of "Down with Israel" are for consumption of ignorant. Both are friends behind the scene. Israeli attack on Iran will only destabilize the region and will give rise to the "Arabs are friends of Zionist" propaganda from PressTV which will be highly beneficial to the ayatollahs of Tehran!

From last two weeks, the direction of PressTV propaganda is to enlist Gulf Rulers as some kind of under-cover Israeli agents who will secretly give way to Israeli jets for air attack on Iran. Much like the scenario of Israeli air attack on Iraqi reactor Osirak, however that was possible because Israelis were able to "sneak" below the coverage of Saudi radars. And I am sure they will still have some tricks to bypass the Saudi radars if they needed to attack Iran but the Tehran Trolls will once again make it seem like the case of Saudi complicity!

Mind you, A real Israeli attack if ever happens on Iran will not be targeted to cause any major damage but will be a major propoganda opportunity for PressTV media..they will come out chanting "Iran is protected holy xyzabcd" and even portray it as a victory of Iran in protecting itself against Israel and shift the whole blame on Arab rulers being Zionist/American and European puppets.. You can see where this is going now! We are seeing a rise of another Safavid or Fatmids!

The same concept of "fighting the zionist" was used in Iraq by Muqtada Sadr forces for sunni-cleansing of mixed neighborhoods!