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I have always felt deep rooted jealousy in heart of Iranians for Pakistanis which baffles me. Why can't they call spade a spade? There is no doubt Iran has progressed in few fields specially Medicine and certain other civ technology. They have had modest success in maintaining a reasonable military technology under sanctions which is not an easy feat. Pakistan has developed technologies as well under sanctions with Chinese help, whatever we could manage. Pakistan has further modelled these by incorporating modern technologies from West, when not under sanctions. The capability and capacity of both peoples cannot be ridiculed. Pakistan has many foreign influences in their culture and Persian being the most visible. Iran though is not a modern version of Persia, cultural linkages remain which however have been replaced recently by deep seated prejudice governed by sectarian divides, historical developments and regional power struggles.
 
I have always felt deep rooted jealousy in heart of Iranians for Pakistanis which baffles me. Why can't they call spade a spade? There is no doubt Iran has progressed in few fields specially Medicine and certain other civ technology. They have had modest success in maintaining a reasonable military technology under sanctions which is not an easy feat. Pakistan has developed technologies as well under sanctions with Chinese help, whatever we could manage. Pakistan has further modelled these by incorporating modern technologies from West, when not under sanctions. The capability and capacity of both peoples cannot be ridiculed. Pakistan has many foreign influences in their culture and Persian being the most visible. Iran though is not a modern version of Persia, cultural linkages remain which however have been replaced recently by deep seated prejudice governed by sectarian divides, historical developments and regional power struggles.
jealousy about pakistan?
man we talking about militARY technology and advance industry dont go beyond that we never insulted pakistani people
secterian ???i guess its in your country they kill each other ...they create taleban ........in my country we live like brothers for thousends of years ...oh sorry yu were not exsit that far lol
ask christian ask torkemen ask amanian all lives happily in iran
 
military technology under sanctions which is not an easy feat. .
can you tell us which sanction ??

which sanction ?? which international UNSC sanction please let us know . it be interesting to know .
i think the sanction is like one of members here who said Pakistan made JF 17.
or what you said .Pakistan develop military technology with China . which one let us know .

what you people need to put here is China keep given Pakistan technology .Pakistan never develop on new technology . all Pakistan missiles & programs or even it nuclear program is been given by china .so there is no development there .is only China give you technology

what jealousy ?? i promise you here no Iranian military informed members here is jealous of Pakistan . they just laugh at you
 
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can you tell us which sanction ??

which sanction ?? which international UNSC sanction please let us know . it be interesting to know .
i think the sanction is like one of members here who said Pakistan made JF 17.
or what you said .Pakistan develop military technology with China . which one let us know .
what you people need to put here is China keep given Pakistan technology .Pakistan ever develop on new technology . all Pakistan missile program or even it nuclear program is been given by china .so there is no development there .is China give you technology

what jealousy ?? i promise you here no Iranian military informed members here is jealous of Pakistan . they just laugh it you

You are so prejudiced that can't even give Pakistan benefit of doubt, that maybe Pakistanis had some little capability of their own. If people start trolling on Irani products that you guys so proudly show in parades then you guys don't know where to run. Respect ,learn to respect. Persians and Arabs will self destruct because of their over inflated egos and racial superiority non sense. There are other strong muslim states out there, get out of your miserable regional games and let peace in. Atleast Pakistan created strategic depth for India, not to destroy Afghanistan. Who are you trying to destroy? One is the Boogeyman while other piles up war toys! This is your reality!
 
It depends on what field of tech we are talking about... Scientifically and technologically both military and civilian Iran is not only centuries ahead of Pakistan but all other Muslim nations combined... but militarily we have to split it down to categories...

Iran is very advanced and on the edge of tech some aspects of military hardware such as Radars, Torpedos, Speed boats, Missile boats, UAVs and UCAVs, Cruise Missiles, Ballistics and on the verge of becoming a pioneer in Electronic warfare, precision weapons, A-A systems, Submarine, Naval ships...

Iran is trying to create a foot print in ground forces weaponry too but although the speed is slow but it is steady and making impressive strides lately... Zolfaghar III tank, Light infantry weapons, light, semi and Heavy snipers, launchers and carriers, precision ammunition, robotic systems and ect are some of Iranian achievements in ground weaponry...

From civilian point of view, Iran is even more advanced in contemporary techs and high-tech ones... Bio-chemistry, Bio-physics, robotics, medicine, aero-space, nano, composites, machinery, heavy industries, engineering are all sometimes THE ONLY ONE in whole region and Islam world..

Pakistan with or without the assistance of its allies is also advanced in some aspects of tech but unfortunately is lacking a lot behind its potential.. I wish soon we can also be proud of Pakistani science and tech... We need more of Islamic nations in order to prove to the world that Islam is in essence a religion of wisdom and science and progress and laziness and backwardness of most of Muslims today does not mean there is something wrong with Islam than the people themselves...

you know Patriotism is good but blind Patriotism is nothing but a emotional way to prove that you are Stupid ..
I admire Iran and its progress despite the Sanctions cause we have been through that as well.. but please don't make us laugh by saying that Iran is Centuries ahead of other Islamic Countries ..

either you are plain ignorant or you miss the point deliberately ...
KSA and Turkey they got the most Advance Air force in Islamic world , and than we have Pakistan Air force ..
weapon System which your country men laugh as a Chinese product is enough to keep a enemy 10 times bigger at bay ..and as for battle tested weapons there are many system which are not yet tested in real combats ..

Missile program of Pakistan is Turkey , if not ahead of Iran than no less than Iran .. you still have a long way to go like Pakistan, Turkey ..
you are flying the 50'60's ear Planes while we are making 4th Gen Fighters in different blocks , and very soon you will be watching block 3 of JF with AESA ..
we are also Operating close to 80 F-16's in which 18 are Block 52's and rest are close to block 52's .. along with Mirage 3 and ROSE capable of carry Nuclear Tipped Ra'ad CM .

Pakistan owns this Project , and we are in progress to build this plane 100% within Pakistan, except for Engines which we are not capable of Making ..
and as for your information , PN is also creating Missiles boats , Azmat class FAC, you have a look at it .its stealth design and so on ... Frigates like F-22P which is not a modern Frigate but good enough compared to other countries .. and surprisingly for Iranians we are creating this whole Frigate in Pakistan ...
as for Submarines , we have build Agosta 90B's , the most Sophisticated Subs in South Asia ...

and recently we have signed a deal of 8 Subs , out of which 4 will be build within Pakistan , and some sources claim that we are looking for 2 types of Subs ..

as for Missiles , we have created and operated Missiles from decades , we are Operating Medium , long and battlefield range Ballistic Missiles , and Cruise missiles named Babur and Ra'ad .. the naval but with longer ranger version is under development from many years ..

we are Operating Armed Drones , which i dont think Iran have ..
we have one of the most Advance Tanks , Multiple Rocket systems and Artillery in South Asia ..

recently we have ordered , 15 AH-Z1 zulus from US worth 1 billion .. and 4 Mi-35E from Russian .. along with Testing the Chinese Z-10's Attack helicopters ..
6 Cutters from US are also on its way ..

the only Pakistan lacks behind is Long Range SAM's , and some Air superiority fighters which we are working on ..
China has Provided HQ-9 SAM to Pakistan as it confirmed of 3 Batteries .. hopefully we will be Ordering more of them ..and in recently we disclosed the New SAM FM-90 , which can be Positioned along Tank Columns to provide Air Cover .

Again , I did not mentioned all these Things because i want to show you that you are Centuries behind us , but you Iranians have to come out of this Superiority Complex , that we are ahead of all Islamic Countries ..
 
you know Patriotism is good but blind Patriotism is nothing but a emotional way to prove that you are Stupid ..
I admire Iran and its progress despite the Sanctions cause we have been through that as well.. but please don't make us laugh by saying that Iran is Centuries ahead of other Islamic Countries ..

either you are plain ignorant or you miss the point deliberately ...
KSA and Turkey they got the most Advance Air force in Islamic world , and than we have Pakistan Air force ..
weapon System which your country men laugh as a Chinese product is enough to keep a enemy 10 times bigger at bay ..and as for battle tested weapons there are many system which are not yet tested in real combats ..

Missile program of Pakistan is Turkey , if not ahead of Iran than no less than Iran .. you still have a long way to go like Pakistan, Turkey ..
you are flying the 50'60's ear Planes while we are making 4th Gen Fighters in different blocks , and very soon you will be watching block 3 of JF with AESA ..
we are also Operating close to 80 F-16's in which 18 are Block 52's and rest are close to block 52's .. along with Mirage 3 and ROSE capable of carry Nuclear Tipped Ra'ad CM .

Pakistan owns this Project , and we are in progress to build this plane 100% within Pakistan, except for Engines which we are not capable of Making ..
and as for your information , PN is also creating Missiles boats , Azmat class FAC, you have a look at it .its stealth design and so on ... Frigates like F-22P which is not a modern Frigate but good enough compared to other countries .. and surprisingly for Iranians we are creating this whole Frigate in Pakistan ...
as for Submarines , we have build Agosta 90B's , the most Sophisticated Subs in South Asia ...

and recently we have signed a deal of 8 Subs , out of which 4 will be build within Pakistan , and some sources claim that we are looking for 2 types of Subs ..

as for Missiles , we have created and operated Missiles from decades , we are Operating Medium , long and battlefield range Ballistic Missiles , and Cruise missiles named Babur and Ra'ad .. the naval but with longer ranger version is under development from many years ..

we are Operating Armed Drones , which i dont think Iran have ..
we have one of the most Advance Tanks , Multiple Rocket systems and Artillery in South Asia ..

recently we have ordered , 15 AH-Z1 zulus from US worth 1 billion .. and 4 Mi-35E from Russian .. along with Testing the Chinese Z-10's Attack helicopters ..
6 Cutters from US are also on its way ..

the only Pakistan lacks behind is Long Range SAM's , and some Air superiority fighters which we are working on ..
China has Provided HQ-9 SAM to Pakistan as it confirmed of 3 Batteries .. hopefully we will be Ordering more of them ..and in recently we disclosed the New SAM FM-90 , which can be Positioned along Tank Columns to provide Air Cover .

Again , I did not mentioned all these Things because i want to show you that you are Centuries behind us , but you Iranians have to come out of this Superiority Complex , that we are ahead of all Islamic Countries ..
brother you got it all wrong.. we are not talking about who could buy a more modern fighter or missile... I'm talking about local science and tech capabilities... so, I ignore your whole list of off-topic response
 
And we all know what that means.....literally nothing. But keeping a 60 year old plane in service till date, is definitely some deal

You mean like when all those F-14 technicians left Iran just right after the revolution and were boasting that Iran could never keep these F-14s operational without their help? How did that work out?
 
Kalibr cruise missiles are actually used by the Navy , Caspian fleet fired a salvo of 26 of them again today/yesterday

the Air Force uses Kh-101s , cruise missiles with range going above 3,000km
..no so (Kalibrs used from all paltforms - ground based, sea based - seen, underwater based - Lada subs, or air based - also shot within the times), X-101 is the one stelthy missile (flattened one), is just yet another thing (quite good one - dist - up to 10.000 km)
 
Jealousy?WTF? lol

For us Iranians, Pakistan is a backward faild state with an ultra poor population and daily terrorist attacks.probably the only notable thing in Pakistan is its nuclear arsenal which prevent the country to be annexed into a developing economic power which is India.

You guys are no match to us in case of economy(even though we were sanctioned to death till recently),heath care and security.stop humiliating yourself.
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On topic: I love tomcats:-)


Bro your economy is just oil and nothing else....
Your government is laughing stock of the world ....
You do have a professional military and we like that ....

So peace no need to fight
 
I have always felt deep rooted jealousy in heart of Iranians for Pakistanis which baffles me. Why can't they call spade a spade? There is no doubt Iran has progressed in few fields specially Medicine and certain other civ technology. They have had modest success in maintaining a reasonable military technology under sanctions which is not an easy feat. Pakistan has developed technologies as well under sanctions with Chinese help, whatever we could manage. Pakistan has further modelled these by incorporating modern technologies from West, when not under sanctions. The capability and capacity of both peoples cannot be ridiculed. Pakistan has many foreign influences in their culture and Persian being the most visible. Iran though is not a modern version of Persia, cultural linkages remain which however have been replaced recently by deep seated prejudice governed by sectarian divides, historical developments and regional power struggles.

Nobody in Iran gives a flying duck about Pakistan, nor look at it with any jealousness. If Pakistan represents anything to Iranians, it's that its poor state is a testimony of how things could've been different.

Bro your economy is just oil and nothing else….

We have been ruling the region numerous times in history long before any oil was found. We will also be the dominant political actor in the region after oil is gone. Besides, the majority of Iran's revenue doesn't come from oil.

Your government is laughing stock of the world ….

Is that why every country in the world is rushing to Iran these days?

You do have a professional military and we like that ….

We have a professional military for more than 2500 years. Long before anyone in the world had known of Pakistan, nor even know that such people by the name of Pakistani (oh the irony, since the name of your country is Persian) existed.
 
Bro your economy is just oil and nothing else....
Your government is laughing stock of the world ....
You do have a professional military and we like that ....

So peace no need to fight
Look at my avatar.thats Esfahan, one of the richest cities of the world in 17th century.and obviosly there was no oil export back then.:disagree:

Talking about today's Iran. We are less dependent to oil than ever considering the last century.for instance our car industry produce more than a million per year and thats a random example and many Iranians are not even satisfied with it, yet. just check "made in Iran" thread for more heads up;)

Anyway I have nothing against Pakistan and its people. Some people started talking nonsense about comparing Pakistan to Iran and that we should replace the legendry Tomcats with some junkie Chinese JFs.for your imformation we are opting for Su-30 and another type which its name is classified (not JF for sure:lol:).
 
For us Pakistanis we don't give a damn about ur clown army and ur stupid Khomeini mullah.

Is that why the Iranian revolution had a profound impact in Pakistan?

Even without using nuclear weapons we can defeat ur pathetic army.

You can't even keep terrorists from your own soil, how are you going to defeat a country which is active throughout the whole region, yet has managed to provide security to its people?

About your concerns about our economy Pakistan will definitely do better thn Iran in future.

Is that why all your countrymen are in Persian Gulf countries to clean toilets for Arabs and do all kinds of other low-paid jobs?

When it comes to science, Pakistan can't even stand in the shadow of Iran.

Your unemployment rate is higher than Pakistan and about 18.7 % Iranians are living below the poverty line. so its better if you look at ur own country first. its poor and pathetic even with all that oil.

With all the things that are wrong in Iran, Pakistan still does 10x worse. Heck, 40% of your people still can't read or write.

You are not in us league.
 
I have always felt deep rooted jealousy in heart of Iranians for Pakistanis which baffles me. Why can't they call spade a spade? There is no doubt Iran has progressed in few fields specially Medicine and certain other civ technology. They have had modest success in maintaining a reasonable military technology under sanctions which is not an easy feat. Pakistan has developed technologies as well under sanctions with Chinese help, whatever we could manage. Pakistan has further modelled these by incorporating modern technologies from West, when not under sanctions. The capability and capacity of both peoples cannot be ridiculed. Pakistan has many foreign influences in their culture and Persian being the most visible. Iran though is not a modern version of Persia, cultural linkages remain which however have been replaced recently by deep seated prejudice governed by sectarian divides, historical developments and regional power struggles.

Lack of money rather than Sanctions
 

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