Iranian Drones vs Turkish Drones: Comparing Technology And Efficiency

[siegecrossbow]

And the off topic thread of the year award goes to…

 

[Foinikas]

WTH! Turkish losses seem ridiculously high.
What was the main reason ?
Their ships ran short of ammunition or some other reason??

They were just not a naval nation,despite all the modern bragging by their government and certain members here.

And the off topic thread of the year award goes to…

Bro,I'm sorry for going off topic with this,but I didn't start it. Someone else started comparing Turkey's everything with Iran's and then everyone else's. When he couldn't talk much about Turkish drones vs Iranians drones,he went on to talk about Turkish ships,Turkish missiles,Turkish AA systems,Turkish technology etc.

 

[MMM-E]

Bro,I'm sorry for going off topic with this,but I didn't start it. Someone else started comparing Turkey's everything with Iran's and then everyone else's. When he couldn't talk much about Turkish drones vs Iranians drones,he went on to talk about Turkish ships,Turkish missiles,Turkish AA systems,Turkish technology etc.

Your troll team jumped to topic from another topic ... even about DNA

because Turkish UCAV technology is far better than Iranian one
to compare Turkiye with Iran , its insult to Turkish Defense industry and Turkish Engineers

WTH! Turkish losses seem ridiculously high.
What was the main reason ?
Their ships ran short of ammunition or some other reason??

Not high .. only useless tiny conflicts by 3-6 Ships after 1821

Ottoman Navy had 29 victories against Europe and Russia between the 16th century and 19th century .... ( Greeks only can dream about it )

one nation vs European Forces and Russia for 300 years

even Ottoman Empire sent the Navy to S.Arabia , India and Indonesia to save muslims from cristian Portuguese Navy


between 1821 and 1827 Greeks were hidding behind Uk+France+Russia

in 1825 Greeks lost at Battle of Sphacteria (1825)

little boys Greeks had courage when UK+France+Russia together attacked Ottoman Empire

and destroyed UK+France+Russia together Ottoman Navy in 1827

17 Frigates
30 Corvettes
5 Shooners
5-6 Fireships

We lost 57 modern Warships in 1827 against UK+France+Russia alliance



during Balkan Wars Ottoman Navy had only a few outdated Warships
because The UK did not deliver 2 modern Warships even Turks paid money for 2 Warships

Greeks had most modern Warships with higher firing capability


Greeks are always same , hidding behind big powers
as like
TURKS fought Russians+British+French+İran at the same time between 1821 and 1829
1821–1823 Ottoman–İran War
1821-1829 Greeks rebelled against the Ottoman Empire
1827 British+French+Russian together attacked on Ottoman Navy ( Battle of Navarino )
1828–1829 Russo-Turkish War

 

[ROKOR]

-- Turkish shipbuilding industry one of the best in the world
Turkiye has 83 Shipyards
Turkiye has 585 places for Ship production, with a capacity to produce 700,000 tons of steel every year and to build 4.5 million deadweight tons of ships ( after China,S.Korea and Japan )

That‘s tiny. Korea‘s Hyundai Heavy Industries shipyards alone have annual capacity of 10 mil. DWT. Turkey‘s commercial and naval capacities are negligent compared to Big 3 China, Korea, Japan.

 

[MMM-E]

Return to Topic


TB-2 is the best Tactical UCAV in the World
AKINCI is the best strategic strike UCAV in the World
KIZILELMA and MQ-28 are only Unmanned stealth Fighter Jets in the World

Iranian UCAVs dont have even AESA Radar
even Iran doesnt know what about airborne AESA Radar with GaN technology



Turkish TB-2 vs Iranian MOHAJER-6

low quality Iranian Drone is not combat proven

On the other hand
Turkish TB-2 is combat proven platform and the best tactical UCAV in the World
and TB-2 UCAVs destroyed over 1.000 military equipment and thousands of troops-militia in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and Ukraine

even new TB-3 on the way

and TB-2 UCAV armed with 250 km KEMANKES mini cruise missile to hit PANTSIR , BUK , TOR , AKASH-NG ,.... even PATRIOT , S300 , BAVAR-373

Shahed-149 ... IRAN

Capacity : 1.000 kg
No AESA Radar
No heavy Cruise Missile
No supersonic Missile
No long range Air to Air Missile

Bayraktar AKINCI ... Turkiye

The best turboprob engined UCAV in the world to carry superior missiles from 16 km to 280 km to hit everything

Capacity : 1.500 kg
150-180-280 km CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , SOM Cruise Missile
150 km IHA-230 supersonic Missile
25-100+ km BOZDOGAN and GOKDOGAN Air to Air Missiles
-- AESA Radar
-- SATCOM
-- Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT )
-- 6 multi-core Artificial Intelligence Computers

The first UCAV in the world that equipped with GaN based AESA Radar

And to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to hit other UCAVs , Attack Helicopters , etc

150+ km IHA-230 supersonic Missile ...( mach 3 -4 )
The first UCAV in the world that fired supersonic Ballistic Missile

Our rival is USA in UCAV technology ...... but not Iran

Unmanned Stealth Fighter Jet ... only USA and Turkiye

USA : MQ-28
Turkiye : KIZILELMA

Bayraktar KIZILELMA

Length: 14.7 m
Wingspan: 10 m
Height: 3.3 m
Max takeoff weight: 8,500 kg
Capacity: 1,500 kg
Maximum speed: 0.9 Mach
Cruise speed: 0.6 Mach
Combat range: 930 km
Endurance: 5-6 hours
Service ceiling: 14,000 m (45,000 ft)

-- High situational awareness with EOTS and AESA Radar
-- Stealth design featuring a low radar signature
-- Internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence

The first time in the world
Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

KIZILELMA to help F-16 for air to air combat
A new era in aviation

Also There will be Carrier based variant of KIZILELMA

so funny İranian propaganda on trucks

Turkish ANKA-3 flying wing deep strike stealth UCAV on the way

Speed : mach 0,7
Altitude : 40.000 feet
MTOW : 7.000 kg
Payload : 1.200 kg
Endurance : 10 hours
-- AESA Radar
-- internal weapon stations

150-180-280 km CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , SOM Cruise Missiles
25-100 km BOZDOGAN and GOKDOGAN Air to Air Missiles
700 km SUPER SIMSEK kamikaze Drone/Cruise Missile

SEAD/DEAD role
Strategic strike
Deep strike

The V-shaped aircraft does not have horizontal and vertical stabilisation to reduce its RCS

A total of 7 weapon stations, one under the fuselage, two internal and two under the wing

SUPER SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone

SUPER SIMSEK will be able to perform air-to-ground, air-to-air attack missions, to be equipped with electronic warfare systems within its own capacity, to detect enemy systems on the ground and to suppress them

Range : 700 km
Weight : 200 kg
Warhead : 50 kg
Speed : mach 0,85

siegecrossbow​

FOINIKAS and false flager trolls again will come to spam the thread off topic posts
wait and see ...They will destroy thread again to block my detailed posts about UCAVs

 

[ROKOR]

Only in your fake persian propaganda
No any video ... keep dreaming with SM-1 based outdated Missile

And I am talking about High Endoatmospheric Defense Interceptor as like American THAAD and Israeli ARROW-3

Therefore Turkiye develops 5 axis DACS ( divert and altitude control system )
DACS are the most effective solution for SAM missiles having longer altitude performance and the kinetic kill Vehicle integrated technology experiment

Iran only can dream about it

Turkish DACS development seems to be years away in a nascent phase.

Call us back when you‘re ready.

 

[Muhammed45]

I must add this point about Iranian drones, considering the fact that Iran is one of the top producers of high tech radar systems in the world, Iranian drones are designed to first and foremost evade radar systems. Therefore Iranian drones are radar evading assets and they are not designed for show. Large drones without stealth coating are easily detected hence can be jammed and downed.

 

[MMM-E]

I must add this point about Iranian drones, considering the fact that Iran is one of the top producers of high tech radar systems in the world

Which one ?
show me Iranian airborne AESA Radar with GaN technology

Turkiye integrated MURAD airborne AESA Radar into the AKINCI UCAV
AKINCI is the first UCAV in the world that equipped with GaN based AESA Radar

Therefore Iranian drones are radar evading assets and they are not designed for show. Large drones without stealth coating are easily detected hence can be jammed and downed.

TB-2 UCAV has low radar cross section ... because of tiny airframe with composite material

Radars can not detect TB-2 from long distance
therefore Armenian S300s could not stop TB-2 UCAVs in Karabakh
therefore Syrian S300s could not stop TB-2 UCAVs in Idlib

now TB-3 is more sthealiest than TB-2

-- Engine compartment is more hidden
-- Landing gear are closing after takeoff

Iran doesnt have these technologies
Turkiye focused on stealth platforms to reduce reflection of radar, infrared, visible light and radio frequency spectrum

KIZILELMA for BVR combat
ANKA-3 for deep strike for SEAD-DEAD role and strategic attack

-- Composite material
-- internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability


Turkish KIZILELMA

-- GaN based AESA Radar , EOTS , sensor fusion
-- Stealth design for much lower RCS
-- Internal weapon stations for stealth flight capability
-- No risk to lose Pilot

RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1
F-16 Block70 : 1
KIZILELMA : 0.3

KIZILELMA can engage on F-16 Block70 from 90 km away while F-16 Block70 can engage on KIZILELMA from 67 km away and RAFALE can do it from 81 km away

Range of engagement
KIZILELMA : from 90 km
RAFALE : from 81 km
F-16 Block70 : from 67 km

first-look, first-shot, first-kill capability
Even 20 km is impressive when you realize the KIZILELMA has already killed the 4th gen Fighters F-16V a couple times before you visually IDed him

soon KIZILELMA will hep F-16s for air combat
F16+KIZILELMA ......vs ....... per enemy Fighter Jet

 

[Foinikas]

@Muhammad Saftain Anjum don't let him fool you with "Not high .. only useless tiny conflicts by 3-6 Ships after 1821"

Check and judge for yourself,bhai :

These were the Russians alone. But the Italians also partied

Check them carefully and tell me if they were "useless tiny conflicts" with "3 ships",as he claims.

 

[MMM-E]

@Muhammad Saftain Anjum don't let him fool you with "Not high .. only useless tiny conflicts by 3-6 Ships after 1821"

Stupid troll came with low Iq brain to terrorize thread

I am talking about between Turks vs Greeks with 3-6 Ships after 1821
Foinikas shows other battles with Europe and Russia

@Muhammad Saftain Anjum don't let him fool you ...
Ottoman Navy 29 Victories against Europe , Russia

1-- Battle of Zeytinburnu 1695 against Italy

Zeytinburnu Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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2-- Battle of Muscat Naval 1554 against Portugal

Maskat Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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3-- Aegean Expedition (1537) against Italy

Ege Seferi (1537) - Vikipedi

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4-- Battle of Alcácer Quibir 1578 against Christian alliance spain,italy,holy roman empire

Battle of Alcácer Quibir - Wikipedia

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5-- Battle of Cape Lori Sea 1737 against Russia

Lori Burnu Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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6-- Battle of Lipari Sea 1561 against Spain

Lipari Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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7-- Naval Battle of Çanakkale (1657) against Italy

Çanakkale Deniz Muharebesi (1657) - Vikipedi

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8-- Naval Battle of Çanakkale (1654) against Italy

Çanakkale Deniz Muharebesi (1654) - Vikipedi

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9-- Battle of Temruk 1638 against Russia

Temrük Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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10-- Battle of the Sheep Islands 1695 against Italy

Koyun Adaları Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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11-- Battle of Karpathos 1498 Italy

Kerpe Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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12 -- Siege of Jeddah 1517 against Portugal

Siege of Jeddah - Wikipedia

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13--Battle of Algiers Naval 1529 against Spain

Cezayir Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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14-- Battle of Djerba 1560 against against Christian alliance spain,italy,dutchy

Battle of Djerba - Wikipedia

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15-- Battle of Zonchio 1499 against Italy

Battle of Zonchio - Wikipedia

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16-- Black Sea raid 1914 against Russia

Black Sea raid - Wikipedia

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17-- Naval Battle of Tenedos (1697) against Italy

Bozcaada Deniz Muharebesi (1697) - Vikipedi

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18-- Battle of Bab al-Mandab 1560 against Portugal

Babülmendep Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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19-- Battle of Hormuz Naval 1554 against Portugal

Hürmüz Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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20-- Battle of Andira (1697) against Italy

Andıra Deniz Muharebesi (1697) - Vikipedi

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21-- Naval Battle of Lesbos 1668

Midilli Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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22-- Battle of Modon (1500) against Italy

Battle of Modon (1500) - Wikipedia

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23--Siege of Lesbos (1771) against Russia

Midilli Kuşatması (1771) - Vikipedi

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24-- Aegean Expedition (1538) against Italy

Ege Seferi (1538) - Vikipedi

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25-- Battle of Formentera 1529 against Spain

Battle of Formentera - Wikipedia

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26-- Capture of Aden (1548) against Portugal

Capture of Aden (1548) - Wikipedia

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27--Battle of Nauplia (1770) against Russia

Anabolu Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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28--Battle of Gozo Naval 1570

Gozo Deniz Muharebesi - Vikipedi

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29-- Battle of Preveza 1538 against against Christian alliance spain,italy,holy roman empire

Battle of Preveza - Wikipedia

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One nation ( Turks ) ....vs.... European Forces and Russia for 300 years
little Greeks can not stand even 3 days against European Forces and Russia

 

[ReasonableStar75]

We are tired of stupid long and boring post of Foinikas, this troll user is only inflating the ego of this pan turk user.

Please thumbs up my post if you think the same.May moderators can do something.

 

[Foinikas]

I am talking about between Turks vs Greeks with 3-6 Ships after 1821
Foinikas shows other battles with Europe and Russia

Yes,battles with 3-6 ships where you lose a flagship and upwards of 1000 men. Tiny battles. Insignificant.

We are tired of stupid long and boring post of Foinikas, this troll user is only inflating the ego of this pan turk user.

Please thumbs up my post if you think the same.May moderators can do something.

I agree,but I was led to this by the refusal of the salesman to acknowledge Turkish defeat at sea.

 

[MMM-E]

Yes,battles with 3-6 ships where you lose a flagship and upwards of 1000 men. Tiny battles. Insignificant.

1.000 men so tiny as like 3-6 Ships

and after 1821 with UK+France+Russia helping

Where were Greeks before 1821 without UK+France+Russia helping ? pathetic daydreamer

We are tired of stupid long and boring post of Foinikas, this troll user is only inflating the ego of this pan turk user.

Waiter Foinikas always spamming and terrorize threads to block my detailed posts which shows superiority of Turkish Defence Industry

Foinikas has big jealousy , hatred and butthurt feelings towards Turkiye

 

[Foinikas]

after 1821 with UK+France+Russia helping

Where were Greeks before 1821 without UK+France+Russia helping ? pathetic daydreamer

Please STOP REFUSING REALITY.

The Great Powers didn't help us at sea nor at land until the Battle of Navarino. When did the Battle of Navarino take place? October 1827. Who fought in these naval battles that I showed you? Greek islanders.

Can't you see that you're the only day-dreamer here?! How tough is it for you to see? Do you suffer from some kind of denial? Delusions of grandeur? What really is your problem? And why the heck are you here every day in the mornings instead of "work"?

Waiter Foinikas always spamming and terrorize threads to block my detailed posts which shows superiority of Turkish Defence Industry

I don't have a problem to reveal my occupation,which isn't "being a waiter". On the contrary,you are the one who has been refusing to tell us about his studies and job. As for your..."detailed posts",they are the same c/p posts,the same long lists and the same stats taken from the official Roketsan,Aselsan,Baykar etc. websites,press releases and brochures.

Your "detailed posts" are nothing but rants and superiority complex tantrums against every country and every ethnicity. And when people spot mistakes,inacurracies or contradictions in them...you go nuts.

 

[MMM-E]

The Great Powers didn't help us at sea nor at land until the Battle of Navarino. When did the Battle of Navarino take place? October 1827. Who fought in these naval battles that I showed you? Greek islanders.

Greeks were nothing until 1821 wth are you trolling here
know your place pathetic beggars ... today same stuation , tiny Greece hidding behind USA-France and barking

UK+France+Russia gave full of weapons to Greeks and together fought against the Ottoman Empire after 1821

Your "detailed posts" are nothing but rants and superiority complex tantrums against every country and every ethnicity. And when people spot mistakes,inacurracies or contradictions in your posts...you go nuts.

I gave great info to compare UCAVs between Turkiye and Iran
My posts are 100% true with offical sources from Turkish Defense companies
your source = your arse

keep crying useless member
My posts shows superiority of Turkish Defense Industry that makes waiter Foinikas crazy

you have no any technical post here about UCAVs

only trolling , babbling and lies to deflect the facts
enough is enough with you inferiority complex and obsession towards Turkiye ..typical Greek