Iranian Drones vs Turkish Drones: Comparing Technology And Efficiency

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Your claims were that Iran was a slave of Turkey and that Safavids were 100% turks and Iranians being ruled by Turks, stop changing your claims posts by posts, snowflake.

Reality hurts you
Enough with your lies and stupid Persian propaganda

know your place and show the reality instead of lies and cheap persian propaganda by ugly daydreamers

full of lies and cheap persian propaganda

This thread is Iranian propaganda
because , Iranian guy compared tactical UCAV Bayraktar TB-2 with a MALE UCAV GAZA in length , wingspan , max take off , speed , etc

And I said compare Iranian GAZA with Turkish AKINCI

Best Iranian UCAV has 500 kg payload and No AESA Radar

Best Turkish UCAV has 1.500 kg payload and with AESA Radar ..... so superior

I am 100% right


Not only Safavid
but also Seljuk , Qajar and Afshar Dynasties were 100% Oghuz Turks who ruled Iran for centuries

in 1923-1925 British helped Shah PAHLAVI to destroy Turkish Dynasty in Iran

Your post with racial insults are seen everywhere. There are also 0 mention of sources in your claims,

I have always source from official websites


All of You dont have technical posts

Your claims are full of lies and butthurt feelings to defame Turkish weapons and insult Turkiye , Turkish Engineers and Turkish Defense Industry

I blocked their 21 lies and silly provocative posts
I showed the reality to LEGEND with detailed post

TOPIC IS OVER
You-Foinikas and others keep living in your fantasy world


Go and Send Iranian GAZA UCAV to Syria,Libya,Karabakh,Ukraine and destroy over 1.000 military equipment including 48 SAMs

then come and compare Iranian UCAVs with Turkish TB-2

 

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And stop repeating the same lies


TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR UCAVs are 100% Turkish including Engine and E/O System
TEI PD-170 Engine .... best in class altitude performance

TF-6000 - TF-10.000 turbofan Engines on the way to power ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

Now Turkish UCAVs use Aselsan CATS E/O System
even Turkiye produced over 150 CATS E/O Systems and exported it to 12 Countries

New Aselsan ASELFLIR-500 is better than Canadian MX-15D

Image quality of the ASELSAN ASELFLIR 500 E/O system (left) and the Canadian MX-15D (right).

Images were taken by Bayraktar TB2 UAV from 56 km away

MURAD AESA Radar was integrated into AKINCI strategic strike UCAV

AKINCI and KIZILELMA to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles

-- USA blocked sale of UCAV to Turkiye
-- Canada blocked E/O System to Turkiye

Note: If NATO impose an embargo on a product to Turkiye, we will do better for that product

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Where is my trolling ?

I gave 100% real info from official websites against their lies and anti-Turkiye propaganda

and my posts hurts all of them .... because of reality

and always same members and false flager trolls led by FIONIKAS


FOINIKAS has big jealousy , hatred and butthurt feelings who terrorize all threads since 2021

They are insulting Turkiye , Turkish engineers , Companies and Turkish Defense

1 -- This thread is Iranian propaganda
because , Iranian guy compared tactical UCAV Bayraktar TB-2 with a MALE UCAV GAZA

And I said compare Iranian GAZA with Turkish AKINCI

I am 100% right


2-- I gave detailed info against Iranian propaganda
and as always FOINIKAS came with his silly and provocative post
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3-- I gave detailed info against another Iranian propaganda
what a lie .. nobody is linning up to buy Iranian Drones

32 Countries bought UCAVs from Turkiye
the last one is S.Arabia which buys Turkish AKINCI UCAVs for $3,1 billions
also dozens of Countries are lining up to buy Turkish UCAVs
I am 100% right .... its full of lie
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4 -- When I said only USA and Turkiye have developed unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
MQ-28 and KIZILELMA
same jealous troll team led by Foinikas came and insulted our Engineers and BAYKAR


5-- Meet the best turboprob Engined UCAV in the World
I gave detailed info about AKINCI why is the best

as always troll FOINIKAS came with silly and provocative post

Foinikas said:
Are you getting comission for that or something?



6-- When I said that even China doesnt have a prototype

same troll team again insulted Turkish engineers and their big efforts

KIZILELMA is not cheap gimmick



7 -- I blocked another trolling and lie


Iran wins in fake propaganda .... and iranian engineering
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on the other hand Turkish engineering and UCAV technology
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8 --- I blocked another lie and Iranian propaganda
Best Iranian UCAV has 500 kg payload and No AESA Radar

Best Turkish UCAV has 1.500 kg payload and with AESA Radar ..... so superior

I am 100% right


9 -- I blocked another lie and Iranian propaganda
TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR UCAVs are 100% Turkish including Engine
only except engine AKINCI UCAV is also 100% Turkish technology

Israeli , American , Iranian UCAVs also used Engines from ROTAX



10 --- I blocked another Iranian propaganda

TB-2 UCAVs were more effective than Iranian useless kamikaze Drones
TB-2 UCAVs destroyed more military equipment than Iranian kamikaze Drones
low speed and dumb iranian kamikaze Drones never destroyed AA System or large military equipment
only used to terrorize civilian targets and some infrastructure sites of Ukraine ... nothing else


11-- Another butthurt feelings and lie from same troll team
Turkish weapons are combat proven in Syria ,Libya , Karabakh and Ukraine
and 32 Countries buys Turkish UCAVs instead of low quality Chinese Drones

Turkiye is the strongest power in the region without NATO



12 .. As always FOINIKAS came with his silly and provocative post

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13 .. FOINIKAS called Turkish history little ..
SELJUKS and OTTOMANS ruled Greeks-Persians for centuries



14 -- I said Israel-Turkiye have advanced Defense Industry easly to stop low speed Iranian Kamikaze Drones
troll FOINIKAS came again with his butthurt feelings
Turkiye has its own KORKUT , SAHIN , SUNGUR , GURZ and HISAR-A short range Air Defense Systems to intercept low speed Iranian Kamikaze Drones

we are not talking about to intercept Ballistic Missile
No need a war to destroy low speed Kamikaze Drone
Turkish KORKUT , SUNGUR , HISAR-A easly destroyed target Drone which is faster than Iranian Drone





15 -- Another lie and insult to Turkiye ... they are living in fantasy world

Turkish economy is bigger than even Greece+Iran+Egypt combined




16 -- Another sill post and trolling from troll team ..post #125

silly post from Sineva​

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17 -- Turkiye has better UCAV technology and Russia asked UCAV technology from Turkiye
but BAYKAR said NO

PUTIN 'proposed to have a Turkish drone factory built in Russia'​

Putin 'proposed to have a Turkish drone factory built in Russia'

Erdogan reportedly revealed his proposal to colleagues while claiming Bayraktar TB2 maker Baykar is establishing a plant in the UAE

www.middleeasteye.net

Russia bought Iranian Drone
because Turkiye did not sell UCAVs to Russia



18 -- Another lie from ignorant troll team ...
Turkiye has its own Satellites
in the region
Only Turkiye and Israel have technology to produce high-res observation Satellite with sub-meter resolution

Even Turkiye exported Satellite to Argentina
Turkiye exported electro-optical Satellite Camera with sub-meter resolution to Pakistan




19 -- Another lie from troll team
Turkish TB-2 UCAV has kill record in the World
TB-2 UCAVs destroyed over 1.000 military equipment in Syria,Libya,Karabakh and Ukraine

including Tanks,Howitzers,MLRS and 48 SAMs PANTSIR , BUK , TOR , OSA , S300

Iranian Drone in terror role against civilian areas and infrastructure in Ukraine




20-- Another false flagger troll
Reality
Seljuk , Safavid , Kajar and Afshar Dynasties were 100% Oghuz Turks who ruled Iran for centuries




21 -- Another lie from troll team

He shows top 10 list from GFP and says Turkiye is behind Egypt, Iran, Saudi and Israel in the region

what a silly troll




22-- Another member with his funny posts to compare Turkiye and Iran
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LeGenD please read my detailed post which shows reality​

liar and sneaky provocateur FOINIKAS and his troll team
They are running thread by thread for trolling my posts

always same users
FOINIKAS
retaxis
Mehdipersian
tsunset
Faceless
925boy
ReasonableStar75
Dexon
Sineva
and many more


I am very patient even though I blocked their 21 lies and silly provocative posts
I am not reporting their trolling , lies and silly provocative posts
Otherwise most of them would be banned including FOINIKAS

Calm down, baby. Türkiye is just Türkiye. It's not Nazi/US/Russia. You don't need to launch the Third World War.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Reality hurts you
Enough with your lies and stupid Persian propaganda

know your place and show the reality instead of lies and cheap persian propaganda by ugly daydreamers

full of lies and cheap persian propaganda

This thread is Iranian propaganda
because , Iranian guy compared tactical UCAV Bayraktar TB-2 with a MALE UCAV GAZA in length , wingspan , max take off , speed , etc

And I said compare Iranian GAZA with Turkish AKINCI

Best Iranian UCAV has 500 kg payload and No AESA Radar

Best Turkish UCAV has 1.500 kg payload and with AESA Radar ..... so superior

I am 100% right


Not only Safavid
but also Seljuk , Qajar and Afshar Dynasties were 100% Oghuz Turks who ruled Iran for centuries

in 1923-1925 British helped Shah PAHLAVI to destroy Turkish Dynasty in Iran




I have always source from official websites


All of You dont have technical posts

Your claims are full of lies and butthurt feelings to defame Turkish weapons and insult Turkiye , Turkish Engineers and Turkish Defense Industry

I blocked their 21 lies and silly provocative posts
I showed the reality to LEGEND with detailed post

TOPIC IS OVER
You-Foinikas and others keep living in your fantasy world


Go and Send Iranian GAZA UCAV to Syria,Libya,Karabakh,Ukraine and destroy over 1.000 military equipment including 48 SAMs

then come and compare Iranian UCAVs with Turkish TB-2

Lol your entire comments are just trolling.

Lies and propaganda is all of your funny comments. You copy and paste propaganda every where.

You know nothing about Iranian products and you still spreading trolls every where. For example gaza drone have 1000 kg payload.shahed 136 is look like a cruise missiles and can destroy everything, shahed 136 is one of most effective military equipments in Ukraine war.

You also used image of iranian replica projects instead of complete Iranian projects for trolling.

You called your useless tb2 drone very effective in Ukraine war!!!

You called safavid turks, but they aren't! Their ancestors were kurds.

You dont have any "turkish" product. Your companies just assemble parts of western companies.

Your country is just a nato member and you are servent of western countries

You also insult others. How many times you insult me and i ignore it?

 

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Lol your entire comments are just trolling.

Lies and propaganda is all of your funny comments. You copy and paste propaganda every where.

Have you no honor and character ? stop lying and be a real human

I gave you real military knowledge and you laughing like pinhead person

You know nothing about Iranian products and you still spreading trolls every where. For example gaza drone have 1000 kg payload.

You are reall trolls

even 1.000 kg payload is inferior to 1.500 kg payload of AKINCI UCAV

also Iranian GAZA doesnt have AESA Radar

but Turkish AKINCI has AESA Radar to carry even 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to turn your GAZA UCAV into scrap of metal


wth are you still trolling here with your jealousy ?

 

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You also used image of iranian replica projects instead of complete Iranian projects for trolling.

Its not my problem , If Iran shows fake QAHER-313 for propaganda

You called safavid turks, but they aren't! Their ancestors were kurds.

Kurds ? No Martians

Kurds never can create an Empire where there are Turks

Seljuk , Safavid , Qajar, Afshar Dynasties were 100% Oghuz Turks

even Ghaznavid Empire was empire of Turkic Mamluk origin which ruled Iran between 977 and 1186

then Iran was ruled by the Great Seljuk, Safavid, Qajar, Afshar, Turkmen dynasties until 1925

You dont have any "turkish" product. Your companies just assemble parts of western companies.

According to liar and jealous troll team

 

[Mehdipersian]

Have you no honor and character ? stop lying and be a real human

I gave you real military knowledge and you laughing like pinhead person




You are reall trolls

even 1.000 kg payload is inferior to 1.500 kg payload of AKINCI UCAV

also Iranian GAZA doesnt have AESA Radar

but Turkish AKINCI has AESA Radar to carry even 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to turn your GAZA UCAV into scrap of metal


wth are you still trolling here with your jealousy ?

even in this comment you are trolling.

Your comments is not for a debate, your comments are just propaganda and trolling.

 

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even in this comment you are trolling.

Your comments is not for a debate, your comments are just propaganda and trolling.

Read again and cry more

even 1.000 kg payload is inferior to 1.500 kg payload of AKINCI UCAV

also Iranian GAZA doesnt have AESA Radar

but Turkish AKINCI has AESA Radar to carry even 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to turn your GAZA UCAV into scrap of metal

Its reality

 

[Hack-Hook]

We very well know what about aerospace technology


CEO of BAYKAR and Engineers said that there will be 2 engined variant of KIZILELMA
All Turkish members knows about it


KIZILELMA-1 with 1 x AI-25TL Engine
KIZILELMA-2 with 1 x AI-322F Engine
KIZILELMA-3 with 2 x AI-322F Engines

Turkiye develops its own TF-10.000 turbofan Engine to power KIZILELMA

Twin engine configuration for Bayraktar KIZILELMA ( bigger air frame with )
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Baykar Exhibited KIZILELMA Fighter UAV at TEKNOFEST KARADENIZ | TURDEF

Baykar company exhibited its KIZILELMA second production prototype for the first time at TEKNOFEST KARADENÄ°Z.

www.turdef.com

till then no more kizilelma as Ukraine can't provide any more engine

 

[Hack-Hook]

All of them are low quality Drones which never destroyed Air Defense System and large military equipment

except they destroyed patriot launcher in ksa

 

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till then no more kizilelma as Ukraine can't provide any more engine

According to CEO of BAYKAR

KIZILELMA mass production start in 2024

that means .. no any problem for engine supply

Source = official Website

Serial Production of Baykar’s Drone Set to Begin in 2024

Türkiye’s first indigenous unmanned fighter aircraft Bayraktar Kızılelma, developed by Baykar Technologies, is progressing towards serial p

baykartech.com

and TF-6000 turbofan Engine for test flights on ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets in 2025

 

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except they destroyed patriot launcher in ksa

It's not confirmed info and Iran also used Cruise Missiles


Go and destroy IRIS-T , NASAMS , PATRIOT in Ukraine by low speed Kamikaze Drone


TB-2 UCAVs destroyed 48 SAMs PANTSIR , TOR , BUK ,S300 in Syria,Libya,Karabakh and Ukraine

even TB-2s used only 15 km MAM-L
Now TB-2 armed with 250 km KEMANKES mini cruise missiles to destroy PATRIOT , SAMP-T , S300 , BAVAR-373 from safe distance

 

[Hack-Hook]

Thank you for the nice work. I think 18/18 Turkish products are better.

so you believe Turkish made air defense is better than Iranian made one .
show me Turkish equivalent of 3rd of khordad that can engage target without turning on its radar up to 70km away and an altitude of 27 km or after turning on its radar up to 200km away or bavar-373 with a range of 400km and engagement ceiling over 30km
or show me Turkish anti-ship cruise missile like Abu-Mahda with 1000+km of range or how Turkish cruise missile in development is better than Iranian fielded one with more range

According to CEO of BAYKAR

KIZILELMA mass production start in 2024

that means .. no any problem for engine supply

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Source = official Website

Serial Production of Baykar’s Drone Set to Begin in 2024

Türkiye’s first indigenous unmanned fighter aircraft Bayraktar Kızılelma, developed by Baykar Technologies, is progressing towards serial p

baykartech.com

and TF-6000 turbofan Engine for test flights on ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets in 2025
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so your engine will become ready in 5 month , we will see

Go and destroy IRIS-T , NASAMS , PATRIOT in Ukraine by low speed Kamikaze Drone

that's Russia duty not us and if they can't do that its not our problem they changed the material used in the body of the drone and increased its rcs dramatically , they also used heavier and less powerful but cheaper lead-acid battery in the drone instead of litium-polimer batteries we used .

on other hand why Ukraine can show video of every Russian bikes they destroy but when it come to these drones they only can show one in 1000 of their claimed interception ?

 

[GWXP]

Regarding Safavids being Turks......

1) Obama was Kenyan, so would you say that USA was a Kenyan Empire?

2) Stalin was Georgian, so would you say that USSR was a Georgian Empire and not Russian?

3) Catherine the Great, empress of Russia was German, so would you say that Russian Empire was a German Empire?

4) Ptolemaic dynasty that ruled Egypt for several centuries were Greeks, so would you say that Ptolemaic Egypt belongs to Greece and not Egypt?

5) Ayyubid dynasty that ruled Egypt for a century was Kurdish in origin, so would you say that Sultanate of Egypt belongs to Kurds and not Egyptians?

6) Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt was ruled by Turkic and Circassian dynasties, so would you say that Mamluk Sultanate doesn't belong to Egypt?

7) The founder of modern Egypt Mehmet Ali was Albanian....will you say that Egyptian history belongs to Albania and not Egypt?

8) Yuan dynasty in China was Mongolian, so would you say that Yuan China belongs to Mongolia and not China?

9) Qing dynasty ruled China for 300 years and it was Manchu dynasty and not ethnically Han...so would you say that Qing Empire doesn't belong to China?

10) Rishi Sunak is Indian, so would you say that UK became a colony of India?

One common thing between all these examples is that foreign ethnicity was assimilated into the local culture of the country they ruled.

And then there are examples of Arabs ruling Spain, Tatars ruling Russia and Turkic Mughals ruling India.....today local peoples of those countries have negative views of those dynasties, because this was not an example of a foreigner coming to the country and assimilating into it, but rather examples of how foreigners conquered the country and brought their own culture that was alien to the local people. Mughals and Delhi Sultanate brought foreign culture of Islam to Hindu India and that is why many Hindus hate them. Arabs brought Islam to Spain and Spanyards made Reconquista and Muslim Tatars ruled Orthodox Russia during a period known as Tatar-Mongol Yoke.

Ghaznavids, Seljuks, Safavids and Afsharids were Turkic in origin but they belong to Iran, because they assimilated into Persian culture and language, ruled Iran while being assimilated, had their capitals in Iran and their people were Iranians. Persian culture and language flourished during those periods.

Persian culture had deep influence in the Muslim World, even more than French culture had in Europe during the 18th century.

At least 4 major Muslim states used Persian language as their official language: 1) Ottoman Empire used Persian as its official language until 1700 when it was substituted by Ottoman Turkish which was heavily influenced by Persian 2) Delhi Sultanate of India and Mughal Empire of India used Persian as their official language and the consequence of this is that Urdu and Punjabi are heavily influenced by Persian even today 3) Bukhara Emirate in Central Asia used Persian as its official language 4) Safavid Iran

Persian culture like poetry, philosophy and art was widespead and popular in all these 4 major Muslim states.

 

[Hack-Hook]

BAVAR-373 from safe distance

safe distance for bavar-373 is around 400km so i suggest make a longer range version of your cruise missile

It's not confirmed info and Iran also used Cruise Missiles

so you believe our cruise missiles are more potent than Russian hyper-sonic ones ?
and if its not considered confirmation

how your claim about Iranian drone inefficacy that come from such charts

are considered facts