Actually, my tribe has ruled more than half of Pakistan in the eighteenth-ninteenth century, so, I got shocked when you said, you don't know my tribeNo we don't have World History Lessons in Pakistan; we've got Social Studies in the Earlier Grades where everything from Civics to Ethics to Geography & World History are taught to us at an Elementary Level such as knowing who discovered America ? Or what are the Rights of a Citizen ? Or why Traffic Laws should be Obeyed ? Or about the more famous personalities from History !
Then we're taught Pakistan Studies which is focused on Pakistan's History from the Antiquity Era i.e the Indus Valley Civilization, the Gandhara Civilization etc. to the Creation of the State of Pakistan on the 14th of August, 1947 & then its subsequent Evolution, its Constitutional Developments, its Contemporary History, its Cultures, its Languages etc.
Turkic Tribes never really figured into any of that; because at an Elementary Stage no one would be teaching anyone about any Tribes & at a Later State Turkic Tribes had no significance to Pakistan or Pakistan; however Iran & Turkiye are mentioned as are the World Wars, the Fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Iranian Revolution of the '80s etc. but this is primarily from a Pakistani Perspective in that how we were involved in any of that; the Khilafat Movement or the Pak-Iran Cooperation on Baluchistan etc.
We don't study the life & works of Ayatollah Khomeni or trace the lineage of the Pahlavi Dynasty or anything of the sort for that really wouldn't be fairly important to incorporate in a limited curriculum !
What about you guys ?
You too @Sinan !
didnt have to force myself to learn, it all came to me very naturally, on the other hand i always had trouble with languages. learning new languages is not easy for me.
Actually, my tribe has ruled more than half of Pakistan in the eighteenth-ninteenth century, so, I got shocked when you said, you don't know my tribe
I am not sure what are the current subjects of history lessons in Iran, but previously, it consisted of almost all Iranian history, and a bit about rest of the world.
yeah of course they are
thanks for info buddy
@Sinan @Targon @Armstrong @Irajgholi
The ancestor of our tribe is (t)ghajar Noyan(Noyan is a mongolic origin name, means prince, king), his name is also written as Tcuchar(or Tkuchar) in English language as well. He was one of Genghiz Khan's main generals(one of the 5 most important ones) and his son in law who married to the fourth girl of Genghiz Khan. Actually, The Neyshabur massacre happened when they assassinated Tcuchar, and His wife, massacred the whole city in return
After that, we came in East anatolia and Azerbaijan, but when Timur wanted to return us to Central Asia, Grand son of Shah Safi (Ancestor of Safavids) talked with Timur, and made him agree not to forcibly move us. So, we remained in the region, and later became one of the 12 main Qizilbash families. Later, the tribe got separated, and part of us emigrated to Gorgan, and Khurasan.
Later, part of our tribe, reached to power in Iran, and became the royal dynasty for more than 1 century.
BTW, I felt that the wikipedia links are not comprehensive, so you may be able to find your answers in this post
yes.
yeah of course they are
i searched her name. she is basically a kurd but i think this is because of spreading of afshar familyShe is a ...... singer, actress, etc.....
Her surname is Avşar, maybe it got something do with her lineage. And i have also blondes in my family. We invaded Europe.
i searched her name. she is basically a kurd but i think this is because of spreading of afshar familyShe is a ...... singer, actress, etc.....
Her surname is Avşar, maybe it got something do with her lineage. And i have also blondes in my family. We invaded Europe.
