Iranian Chill Thread

[Ghulam-Alazhar]

Egypt was major Shia before | Page 2
In poste in harumzade aslanro pak konid

Aziz jan man ke goftam tuie bakhshe gheire Iran nemitunam posti ro pak konam.

shoma aslan chera hamchin topici rafti zadi onja? mage nemiduni ba che ahmaghaie taraf hasti?
avaghebesh ro ham bepazirin lotfan age kari mikonin.

Che avaghebi man ye toppic az wikipedia zadam
loftan baghiyeye modirayi ro ke mishnasi seda kon pakesh konan man modira ro nmeihsnasam

@haman10
Salam haman jan chetori?bia yahoo karet daram

 

[haman10]

Egypt was major Shia before | Page 2
In poste in harumzade aslanro pak konid



Che avaghebi man ye toppic az wikipedia zadam
loftan baghiyeye modirayi ro ke mishnasi seda kon pakesh konan man modira ro nmeihsnasam

serpentine oonja mod nist dadash .

manam hoseleye in forum ashghalo nadaram .

man beram paye darso zendegim

 

[Ghulam-Alazhar]

serpentine oonja mod nist dadash .

manam hoseleye in forum ashghalo nadaram .

man beram paye darso zendegim

ye lahze bia yahoo karet daram
alan yahoo hatsi?

Age tunestid kolan toppic ro pak konid man pashimun shodam az hamchin toppic zadani.

 

[haman10]

paak shod , ghulam ham ban shod . WTF

 

[Serpentine]

ghablan ham gofte budam beheshun ke bahse mazhabi tuie in forum akharesh chi hast.

tarafe moghabelet ye seri ahmagh hastand ke mesle sang sakht hastand, va modirane site ham hamchin dele khoshi nadaran az bahsaie mazhabi,.

 

[spiderkiller]

dustan kharej neshin va dakhelneshin bizahmat iek test sorat begirid bebinim vaziat chetore. man az dirooz service 1 meg ro faal kardam enghadr sorat dade. chetore ?

 

[rmi5]

paak shod , ghulam ham ban shod . WTF

Kollan ijaad kardan e oun topic, be oun shekl va ounja, aaghebat e dige ham nemitounest dashteh basheh

 

[rmi5]

‮ايران‬ - ‭BBC ‮فارسی‬ - ‮اوباما تحریم احتمالی ایران در سنا را 'وتو خواهد کرد'‬
سخنگوی کاخ سفید گفته است که اگر سنا تحریم‌های جدیدی را علیه ایران به تصویب برساند باراک اوباما، رئیس‌جمهور، مصوبه سنا را "وتو" خواهد کرد.

جی کارنی، سخنگوی کاخ سفید به خبرنگاران گفت که دولت بارها به کنگره گفته است که مقطع کنونی وقت مناسبی برای تحریم‌های جدید نیست.

۲۶ سناتور آمریکایی طرحی را برای تحریم بیشتر صنعت نفت ایران آماده کرده‌اند. سناتورهای ارشد دموکرات و جمهوری‌خواه در میان امضاکنندگان این طرح هستند.

در عین حال ۱۰ نفر از روسای کمیته‌های سنا با تصویب تحریم‌های جدید مخالفت کرده‌اند.

واشنگتن پست هم از قول یک مقام ارشد کاخ سفید نوشته است که تصویب تحریم‌های جدید علیه ایران احتمال وقوع جنگ را تقویت می‌کند. دولت باراک اوباما در هفته‌های اخیر به دفعات از کنگره خواسته است که از تحریم‌های جدید علیه ایران خودداری کند.

احتمال تصویب تحریم‌های جدید توسط کنگره در حالی مطرح می‌شود که محمدرضا باهنر، از نمایندگان برجسته محافظه‌کار مجلس، گفته است ممکن است مجلس دولت را به رساندن غنی‌سازی اورانیوم به سطح ۶۰درصد ملزم کند.

غنی‌سازی اورانیوم یکی از مسائل کانونی مورد اختلاف بوده است و مطابق توافق ژنو ایران اورانیوم غنی‌شده خود در سطح ۲۰درصد را خنثی می‌کند و حجم اورانیوم غنی‌شده ۵درصدی را هم محدود نگاه می‌دارد.

ازسرگیری مذاکرات فنی
در عین حال ایران و کشورهای ۱+۵ مذاکرات خود درباره برنامه هسته‌ای ایران را در سطح کارشناسی از سر گرفته‌اند.

این دور مذاکرات، که در ژنو برگزار می‌شود، برای روشن شدن روندهای اجرایی محدودیت برنامه هسته‌‎ای ایران و رفع بخش‌هایی از تحریم‌های وضع‌شده علیه ایران است.

گفتگوهای ایران و قدرت‌های جهان درباره این روندهای اجرایی پس از قرار گرفتن ۱۹ شرکت جدید در فهرست‌ تحریم‌های آمریکا متوقف شده بود.

یکی از دیپلمات‌های غربی به رویترز گفته است که به رغم توافق کلی در ژنو، رسیدن به توافق با ایران بر سر روندهای اجرایی ممکن است "بسیار دشوار" باشد.

در ایران برخی از محافظه‌کاران از محتوای توافق دستگاه دیپلماسی حسن روحانی با قدرت‌های جهانی ابراز نگرانی می‌کنند. امروز علی‌اکبر صالحی، رئیس سازمان انرژی اتمی ایران، با شش نفر از مراجع تقلید شیعه دیدار کرده و به آنها درباره مذاکرات هسته‌ای اطمینان خاطر داده است.

 

[Chronos]

Mind if I ask an Iranian history question here

 

[rmi5]

Mind if I ask an Iranian history question here

No problem You are welcome to ask your question here.

 

[Chronos]

No problem You are welcome to ask your question here.

Mossadegh Was toppled by CIA and MI6 funded elements (CIA admitted to this).

The reason was that he was a socialist and wanted to nationalize the Anglo-Iranian oil company (today it is known as BP).

I am not here to debate the efficacy of the toppling, but what would have happened if Mossadegh was left to rule?

Would things have stayed the same? Changed?

Was he a bad ruler? Because the man is known for how he was toppled rather than his governance record.

Because my home state of Kerala has been intermittently been ruled by socialists. While they did great work in terms of social issues, their economic performance has been mediocre.

Maybe that would have been the fate of Iran? a More soviet friendly, with more progressive social values but lackluster economy?

Sorry for my ignorance

 

[rmi5]

Mossadegh Was toppled by CIA and MI6 funded elements (CIA admitted to this).

The reason was that he was a socialist and wanted to nationalize the Anglo-Iranian oil company (today it is known as BP).

I am not here to debate the efficacy of the toppling, but what would have happened if Mossadegh was left to rule?

Would things have stayed the same? Changed?

Was he a bad ruler? Because the man is known for how he was toppled rather than his governance record.

Because my home state of Kerala has been intermittently been ruled by socialists. While they did great work in terms of social issues, their economic performance has been mediocre.

Maybe that would have been the fate of Iran? a More soviet friendly, with more progressive social values but lackluster economy?

Sorry for my ignorance

Actually you can find his photo in my avatar.
Anyway, He was not a socialist at all. He was a liberal politician and he was considered as the head of the National Front of Iran which was/is the most important coalition of liberals and nationalists in Iran.
Britain did the coup because they were humiliated by him and they lost all of their interests in Iran because of him.
In his era, Iranians experienced the most freedom situation in the past century, If such a patriotic, liberal, and moderate person was more in power, definitely Iran's situation would have been a lot better now.

 

[rmi5]

@Ravi Nair
Actually a social democratic party(not communist), the Toilers Party of the Iranian Nation, was also in the National of front of Iran as well, but the mainstream were liberal nationalists in that coalition. Maybe that's the source of confusion for you.
The main stream of Left-wing was Tudeh Party of Iran at that time

 

[Chronos]

Actually you can find his photo in my avatar.
Anyway, He was not a socialist at all. He was a liberal politician and he was considered as the head of the National Front of Iran which was/is the most important coalition of liberals and nationalists in Iran.
Britain did the coup because they were humiliated by him and they lost all of their interests in Iran because of him.
In his era, Iranians experienced the most freedom situation in the past century, If such a patriotic, liberal, and moderate person was more in power, definitely Iran's situation would have been a lot better now.

Whenever his toppling is mentioned by western intellectuals they say he was a communist.

Let's not forget the American involvement in the toppling of Salvador Allende and installing of Pinochet in Chile.

Maybe I am wrong, and feel free to correct me on this, despite Iranians turning to Islam, unlike other converted nations, Iranians are proud of their pre-Islamic history.

How can you not be? With Cyrus the great, the Achaemenids, Sassanids.

I don't want to start a flame war though.

This is the Iranian chill thread.

@Ravi Nair
Actually a social democratic party(not communist), the Toilers Party of the Iranian Nation, was also in the National of front of Iran as well, but the mainstream were liberal nationalists in that coalition. Maybe that's the source of confusion for you.
The main stream of Left-wing was Tudeh Party of Iran at that time

Aah, That makes sense. Thanks man.

 

[rmi5]

Whenever his toppling is mentioned by western intellectuals they say he was a communist.

Let's not forget the American involvement in the toppling of Salvador Allende and installing of Pinochet in Chile.

Maybe I am wrong, and feel free to correct me on this, despite Iranians turning to Islam, unlike other converted nations, Iranians are proud of their pre-Islamic history.

How can you not be? With Cyrus the great, the Achaemenids, Sassanids.

I don't want to start a flame war though.

This is the Iranian chill thread.

Yes, you are exactly right. Britain and royalists started to do propaganda against him and show him as a communist in order to make americans willing to participate in the coup. But, That was nothing but lying and propaganda.
Yes off course, We are definitely proud of our long elegant history. You may only find some of the ultra religious persons who just care for Islam, and belittle Iran's history. But they are an absolute minority. I agree that this is distinct from the rest of muslim countries, but the fact is our historical heritages are distinct from them as well