Iranian Chill Thread

[aryobarzan]

Islamic Republic is so evil, instead of painting those eggs, they should have cooked them and fed their people - Fox News Probably

I made a thread about this years norouz

 

[Dr Bartholomew]

A piece by Robert Bartholomew:

Log in | Psychology Today

www.psychologytoday.com

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Psychology and the Mystery of the "Poisoned" Schoolgirls​

Amid reports of "mass poisonings" of Iranian schoolgirls, is history repeating?​

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KEY POINTS​

• With no evidence of a toxic agent, no deaths, and nearly all victims recovering quickly, "poisoning" reports should be viewed with caution.
• In recent decades, studies of several similar reports of mass poisonings were eventually identified as having a psychological origin.
• The Iranian "poisonings" have coincided with an unfamiliar odor – the number-one trigger of mass psychogenic illness over the past century.

@SalarHaqq
@Hack-Hook

Please read the article

Robert Bartholomew, Ph.D., is an American medical sociologist

This article was taken down by Psychology Today after they received a wave of complaints - some threatening - demanding that it be taken down. I have since written another article on this for the New Zealand Newroom, and after receiving a wave of complaints, they have kept it up, and rightly so because it is rock solid. There is a sustained campaign by some members of the Iranian community to remove any articles on mass psychogenic illness as they are intent on making the government look bad, regardless of the facts. Psychogenic illness is clearly the most likely explanation at this juncture.

Why schoolgirl 'poisonings' in Iran could be mass psychogenic illness

There is no evidence schoolgirls in Iran have been the target of chemical attacks, but neither are they ‘making it up’ – it's a collective stress response based on a belief, argues Dr Robert Bartholomew

www.newsroom.co.nz

Robert Bartholomew, Honorary Senior Lecturer, Department of Psychological Medicine, University of Auckland

 

[HGV]

• WSJ NEWS EXCLUSIVE

Iran Agrees to Stop Arming Houthis in Yemen as Part of Pact With Saudi Arabia​

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WSJ News Exclusive | Iran Agrees to Stop Arming Houthis in Yemen as Part of Pact With Saudi Arabia

Tehran will halt covert weapons shipments to its Houthi allies there as part of a China-brokered deal to re-establish diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia.

www.wsj.com

If the war is over they don't need new arms. Iran's support of the Houthis served its purpose. In any event, the Houthis have built up a massive inventory of all types of weapons. Iran also emphasises local production to minimise reliance on imports. A price well worth paying for Iran.

 

[Blue In Green]

Any updates on Azerbaijan’s belligerence against Iran?

 

[TheImmortal]

If the war is over they don't need new arms. Iran's support of the Houthis served its purpose. In any event, the Houthis have built up a massive inventory of all types of weapons. Iran also emphasises local production to minimise reliance on imports. A price well worth paying for Iran.

Houthis purpose was always to have an alley that protect access to Red Sea and checkmate on Saudi Arabia’s border to keep them honest.

Iran never wanted war with Saudi Arabia nor did it want Saudi Arabia’s collapse as right not Saudi Arabia cares more about $$$$ than religion. Imagine if a clerical regime took hold in Saudi Arabia, it would be a disaster. Just like Saudi Arabia wanted a weakened Iran not a completely different Iran that could lead to revolution on its own turf as well. At the end of the day they are still a monarchy and not democracy.

 

[SalarHaqq]

If the war is over they don't need new arms. Iran's support of the Houthis served its purpose. In any event, the Houthis have built up a massive inventory of all types of weapons. Iran also emphasises local production to minimise reliance on imports. A price well worth paying for Iran.

• WSJ NEWS EXCLUSIVE

Iran Agrees to Stop Arming Houthis in Yemen as Part of Pact With Saudi Arabia​

​

WSJ News Exclusive | Iran Agrees to Stop Arming Houthis in Yemen as Part of Pact With Saudi Arabia

Tehran will halt covert weapons shipments to its Houthi allies there as part of a China-brokered deal to re-establish diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia.

www.wsj.com

As it turns out it's fake news.

Seyyed Mohammad Marandi, in charge of the Iranian nuclear negotiation team's public relations with foreign media, categorically rejected this claim by the Wall Street Journal.

As professor Marandi stressed, Iran made no commitment at all in regard to Yemen. There's nothing about Yemen, nothing about Iran-Yemen relations in Iran's agreement with the Saudis, except that parties are expressing hope Riyadh may come to find a peaceful solution to that conflict. Marandi further insisted that Iran's policy towards Yemen is not going to change and that Iran will not betray any of her allies - a point corroborated by history.

Another important aspect alluded to by the latter is that western, exiled oppositionist and domestic liberal media will spare no efforts to try and undermine the deal. One of the narratives they would deploy to this end is to pretend Iran made unacceptable concessions, which they hope would influence Iranian public opinion and exert pressure on the Ra'isi administration.

I'd say in short, let's not pay too much attention to this sort of psy-ops. That an American rag like the WSJ, which is close to the neoconservatives would publish disinformation on the topic isn't surprising.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636404330356940802

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636421170789531650

Listen also to Marandi on Jedaal (the whole program's well worth watching):

- YouTube

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www.youtube.com

 

[lydian fall]

Any updates on Azerbaijan’s belligerence against Iran?

If you understand Persian then it is a good analysis:

 

[lydian fall]

Very good analysis

Why the US and i$rael are getting weaker day by day:

 

[Shawnee]

Iran will never cease supporting Houthis but a joint deal with Saudis that keeps everyone happy is possible.

WSJ and Reuters are spreading false info on purpose.

 

[Stryker1982]

Any updates on Azerbaijan’s belligerence against Iran?

Soon.

They will launch offensive on Armenia when it is Spring-Summer.

As it turns out it's fake news.

Seyyed Mohammad Marandi, in charge of the Iranian nuclear negotiation team's public relations with foreign media, categorically rejected this claim by the Wall Street Journal.

As professor Marandi stressed, Iran made no commitment at all in regard to Yemen. There's nothing about Yemen, nothing about Iran-Yemen relations in Iran's agreement with the Saudis, except that parties are expressing hope Riyadh may come to find a peaceful solution to that conflict. Marandi further insisted that Iran's policy towards Yemen is not going to change and that Iran will not betray any of her allies - a point corroborated by history.

Another important aspect alluded to by the latter is that western, exiled oppositionist and domestic liberal media will spare no efforts to try and undermine the deal. One of the narratives they would deploy to this end is to pretend Iran made unacceptable concessions, which they hope would influence Iranian public opinion and exert pressure on the Ra'isi administration.

I'd say in short, let's not pay too much attention to this sort of psy-ops. That an American rag like the WSJ, which is close to the neoconservatives would publish disinformation on the topic isn't surprising.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636404330356940802

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636421170789531650

Listen also to Marandi on Jedaal (the whole program's well worth watching):

- YouTube

ÐивÑÑÑÑÑ Ð²Ñдео, ÑлÑÑайÑе ÑлÑÐ±Ð»ÐµÐ½Ñ Ð¼ÑзикÑ, заванÑажÑйÑе оÑигÑналÑний конÑÐµÐ½Ñ Ñ Ð´ÑлÑÑÑÑÑ Ð²ÑÑм Ñим Ñз дÑÑзÑми, ÑÑм'ÑÑ Ð¹ ÑÑлим ÑвÑÑом на YouTube.

www.youtube.com

If Marandi is saying it, I tend to agree.

Also past precedence indicates that even in the worst of times, IR never abandons its friends unlike some other nations.

 

[HGV]

I personally am less inclined to believe Marandi. He's a useful figure in the media war but he totally lacks any nuance and is clearly just pushing a set of talking points. Don't forget he was one the loudest voices saying Iran doesn't need to return to the JCPOA because Europe will face a hard winter which will make them desperate for the deal. One of the gravest errors of judgment in recent history.

 

[SalarHaqq]

he was one the loudest voices saying Iran doesn't need to return to the JCPOA because Europe will face a hard winter which will make them desperate for the deal.

The gist of his remark was that western regimes too will stand to lose as well if they refuse to return to the JCPOA by offering Iran the necessary guarantees that they'll live up to their end of the agreement unlike what they've been doing previously. Hypothetical fuel shortages in Europe are one aspect among several (Iran's latent nuclear breakout capability for instance is another).

Diplomatically this is the correct posture to adopt, in contrast to the Rohani administration's habit of suggesting Iran is desperate for a deal no matter what, thereby sending all the wrong signals to the opposite side. Since not only did such statements contradict the reality of Iran's potential to neutralize the effect of sanctions but they also emboldened the USA and EU3 in the negotiations process and in their decision not to actually implement their commitments.

Then Rohani's supporters and reformists began attacking Marandi by trying to pretend he doesn't care about the plight of ordinary Iranians. This is discussed here in detail by Marandi and Alizade (really interesting conversation):

But when it comes to supposed Iranian concessions to the Saudis, it's a question of concrete facts more than subjective forecasts. On this I'll take professor Marandi's word without hesitating over that of a mainstream American publication marked by a dubious history of attempts at legitimizing Washington's acts of aggression, and knowing that in the present context their agenda will consist in trying to undermine the Iranian-Saudi agreement. Falsely insinuating Iran made concessions or backtracked on her regional policy when she didn't, serves this agenda.

 

[tsunset]

How much time before a false flag attack or some plot against Iran Saudi peace?

 

[lydian fall]

 

[strateger]

Are any of you in Iran seeing any changes in your markets, businesses, etc? Specifically, any noticeable cohesion with Russia, China, etc? More Russian and Chinese products around? More exporting to Russia and China? Anything you have noticed?