Iranian Chill Thread

[Cancerous Tumor]

Historically hindu
And Chinese had a overlapping influence over much of south east Asia.
Hindus had a mercantile relations with west and the east , there is a reason pliny described india as the sinkhole of all the gold in the world
Today , lets be honest, india is a 3 trillion dollar economy.
China is a 17 trillion dollar economy .
India needs to keep its other neighbors towards our side as much as possible.
Look at bangladesh, current pm of Bangladesh is said to be pro india , her opposition is said to be pro China.
In Nepal, the communist party Is pro China, the nepali Congress is pro india even though under indo nepal friendship treaty , nepalis enjoy almost equal rights as citizens of india enjoy, plus they are hindus themselves hence thousands of nepalis serve in indian army, or various other forces , millions work in india, they don't require any sort of visa etc , its free entry and exit for them .without any barriers, the border is not fenced also , they come and go at their will . We maintain permanent presence of indian army there. Though we buy electricity from Nepal, so that they remain contended
Same with Bhutan, another tiny country which borders nepal China and India. We buy hydro electricity from them , on return they get almost everything from India, including indian military presence.

There too both india and China counter each other by development of infrastructure to win favors. Like if China builds a dam, we build a highway , you see
Similarly in burma , we maintain good relationships with the junta , even though west has made them a pariah.
We even sell weapons to them so do the Chinese.
All these small nations play india and China against against each other . Like if they want to pressure india they move closer to China.

Jokes aside about communism,you may see Iranians protesting against capitalism and imperialism but what you don't see in media is that people really , really hate communism ideas in this country.

Sometimes I do wonder if even today China implementing some of these stupid ideas that these people want to implement here in Iran !!

 

[Mahabahu kaunteya]

Thank you Sir, I read it the interesting part for me was I Knew a little about history of Pakistan and Bangladesh but I thought it was only problem of Muslim vs Hindu in framework of GB.

From your post I get it that other religious groups also had issues with GB power structure that lead to separation of parts of country.

It's also interesting that China has this much influence in this part of the world.

Dont call me sir, iam 19 only

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

Dont call me sir, iam 19 only

Really Sir ?

 

[Mahabahu kaunteya]

Jokes aside about communism,you may see Iranians protesting against capitalism and imperialism but what you don't see in media is that people really , really hate communism ideas in this country.

Sometimes I do wonder if even today China implementing some of these stupid ideas that these people want to implement here in Iran !!

I know about communism , hehe
India has had many communist parties.
So much so india still calls her self socialist.
Dont implement it, its just not good

Really Sir ?

Aye aye am 19 , what's your age though.

Jokes aside about communism,you may see Iranians protesting against capitalism and imperialism but what you don't see in media is that people really , really hate communism ideas in this country.

Sometimes I do wonder if even today China implementing some of these stupid ideas that these people want to implement here in Iran !!

Iran is indeed a great country, achieved so much even being under sanctions.
That is truly a commendable feat

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

I know about communism , hehe
India has had many communist parties.
So much so india still calls her self socialist.
Dont implement it, its just not good


Aye aye am 19 , what's your age though.

36
This summer gonna be a hot summer.

Iran is indeed a great country, achieved so much even being under sanctions.
That is truly a commendable feat

Its up to people to say if they are happy with the price that payed and the things that they got in return.

 

[Mahabahu kaunteya]

36
This summer gonna be a hot summer.

Its up to people to say if they are happy with the price that payed and the things that they got in return.

Hot summer ?
I guess it is not about temperature.

36
This summer gonna be a hot summer.

Its up to people to say if they are happy with the price that payed and the things that they got in return.

Its raining in india. Will rain for many months now

 

[lydian fall]

Yankee and Zionist war against tourism in Iran:

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

Yankee and Zionist war against tourism in Iran:

Last year tourists bring $2.5 B In Iran which isn't even 1% of Iran's GDP. It's good to have healthy tourism but at these numbers it's almost nothing.

 

[lydian fall]

Last year tourists bring $2.5 B In Iran which isn't even 1% of Iran's GDP. It's good to have healthy tourism but at these numbers it's almost nothing.

It's still growing fast

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

Are you including India and China as neighbor?

No I just count it with India I'm dumb and bad at math also thought world population is still at 6-7 billion range.

Turkiye( 85 ) ,Armenia( 4 ) ,Azerbaijan( 10 ) ,Russia( 144 ) ,Kazakhstan( 20 ) ,Turkmenistan( 6 ) ,Afghanistan( 36 ) ,Pakistan( 240 ) ,India( 1450 ) , Oman ( 6 ) ,U.A.E(10 ) ,Bahrain( 2 ) ,Qatar( 3 ) ,Saudi Arabia ( 36 ),Kuwait( 5 ) and Iraq( 41 ).

Connected by land and sea (but not that far).

Please correct numbers if I'm wrong.
Without China it's 2.1 billion out of 8 billion which is 26% of world population .

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

Pakistan is Iran's most populous neighbor by far. I would say that Pakistan's geography is more interesting, we connect India, China, Middle East and Central Asia. Two of our neighbors China and India are the most populous countries, Pakistan itself is number 5. There's a prevalent view point in Pakistan that our fate is cursed by our geography and Pakistan is bound to remain a security state.

The way things going on we will be neighbors of NATO and China.

Iran foreign policy decisions must be hard to make but for Pakistan it looks even worst than Iran.

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

We have fewer neighbors though. With one being enemy(India), one hostile(Afghanistan), one ally(China) and one with good terms(Iran).

Let's say you just have only two neighbors China and India.

In religion, agriculture , economy and foreign policy and ... balancing between these two is already a mess.their view and their differences in these subjects will make problems not just for them but for their neighbors too.

Even with assumption of Pakistan being in good terms with both of them at some point things will get complicated.

 

[Mahabahu kaunteya]

This apollon is a big haramzada

@SalarHaqq. @Cancerous Tumor

 

[SalarHaqq]

You live in Germany?

No but the user claimed that German authorities would proceed to transferring the complaint to whatever EU country I'm staying at. It's most certainly wishful thinking anyway, I highly doubt any state authority would consider my comments on here as a legal infringement, and should they do then as said, some of the user's own posts will be considered much more of an offense no doubt.

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Iran with its trillion USD economy, its cross-continental empire heritage, its modern nationhood, its booming military industrial complex ... last but not least, its shia theocratic leadership of 300 million Shiites of the world is a massive problem for these zio mafia men. They want Iran to become just a "country" with few useless toy weapons (PGCC), few international good for nothing PR memberships of some meaningless groups (Turkey), with a weak in-debt government that they can topple any time it tries to stand (Egypt, Syria, Pakistan).

I agree with the analysis, but when it comes to this specific aspect their goal's no longer a servile, subdued Iran but a dismantled, destroyed one. The Syrian example you cited is closest to what they have in mind for Iran.

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My apologies I was dumb.

Dear @SalarHaqq

Is there any communism for dummies out there ?

It seems to me I pointed you to an excellent introduction to what communism is and what Karl Marx was really talking about before. And I invited everyone to watch that video (a very rare, nay unique subtitled presentation of French author Francis Cousin), since I can only reiterate, it will be guaranteed to stimulate your intellect like few others would.

No idea if anyone was curious enough to actually take a look at it though, but if they skip this despite having enough time as well as some minimal interest in the subject, they will only be missing out on an extraordinary and highly instructive document.

At any rate, here it is again as it entirely deserves the re-post:

 

[SalarHaqq]

Very nicely put together

I have become exausted personally trying to explain to everyone and their mother over and over again the difference between ppp to gdp.

How macro economic benefits of dirt cheap fuel are never taken into account. From households not spending half their income on energy, to cheap transportation. alot of people can make a living using the cheap fuel/cheap car to make some income. Subisidized food, cheapers services and on and on.

In the west you pay up to 40-50% direct income tax (which was supposed to be a temporary tax to pay for ww1). Then depending on country pay another 10-20% of their income on various sales/vat/fuel/ carbon to literally farts (new zealand). in the west you cant breathe without the government charging a tax for it.

nobody in Iran pays taxes in the same universe as westerners. Ahmadinejad caused the bazaris who pay no tax to go on a mass protest and close their shops when he introduced a 3% VAT. Before he was forced to cancel it.


In the history of Iran, these sentences have never been spoke by any Iranian. Ever.

"I actually did very well last year for myself" "The price of gas is so cheap, Literally the 2nd or 3rd cheapest on earth" "Thank god the government hardly charges us any taxes" "maybe i should pay my fair share into society, since i use subisidized fuel, utilities, roads, infastracture, etc etc...."

Thank you, and nicely put as well.

Beyond the points evoked in those "Tweets", you rightly touch upon the benefits Iran's popular masses derive from the ample subsidies on basic consumer goods, as well as from the unsystematic collection of taxes (a great many companies have special arrangements exempting their employees from paying the income tax). This comes into play when evaluating the living standards of the average Iranian, and most countries do not have such a subsidies system in place.

Now Sapir is focusing on the comparative weight and importance of a national economy (rather than on living standards, although the two aren't entirely unrelated of course).

In regards to this, he mentions the relevance of GDP PPP over nominal GDP indeed. But in addition, he goes on to introduce a second aspect generally left out of discussions: namely, the proportion of the service sector relative to the manufacturing sector in a country's economy.

And he stresses that nowadays, the service sector is overvalued - meaning that if you have two economies with identical GDP's, the one with the larger manufacturing sector will prevail in terms of its share of the world economy, even if the GDP figures won't show this fact.

Here Iran is presenting a particularly favorable picture, with a service sector no larger than 53% of overall GDP. This is even slightly less than Russia and China, and it puts Iran's true share of the world economy above countries with a similar GDP but larger service sectors. EU economies however, 70% of which are made of services rather than production of commodities, or the USA economy where this figure stands as high as 76,89% (2019), are weighing less on the global scale than what their GDP's - even their PPP GDP's would suggest.