Iranian Chill Thread

[aryobarzan]

@aryobarzan @QWECXZ mesle inke dargiri shode beyne niruha iran va taleban. che khabare? pasgah polis soghot karde?

 

[Cthulhu]

@aryobarzan @QWECXZ @mohsen mesle inke dargiri shode beyne niruha iran va taleban. che khabare? pasgah polis soghot karde?

حالا دلم می خواد ماله کشی این پفیوزهایی که داشتن برای این طالب های مادرجنده یقه جر میدادن رو ببینم

 

[Dariush the Great]

حالا دلم می خواد ماله کشی این پفیوزهایی که داشتن برای این طالب های مادرجنده یقه جر میدادن رو ببینم

Iran khabar ro takzib karde. hala chetori in nirooha junevar taleban jorat kardand ke be samte Iran shelik konand? Haleshoon bayad gerefte beshe.

 

[Muhammed45]

حالا دلم می خواد ماله کشی این پفیوزهایی که داشتن برای این طالب های مادرجنده یقه جر میدادن رو ببینم

In taleba gohi nistan. Vase ma yebar masrafan.

Khoobie ghazie ineke niroohaye khareji ra biroon andakhtan. Ta'amol ba taleba kheyli rahattar az ta'amol ba motejavezhast.

Dar zemn America ziyad ham badesh nemiyad Iran ba oona dargir beshe.

 

[QWECXZ]

@aryobarzan @QWECXZ @mohsen mesle inke dargiri shode beyne niruha iran va taleban. che khabare? pasgah polis soghot karde?

نه بابا. پاسگاه توسط یه مشت پابرهنه طالب گرفته بشه؟

من که نظرم رو خیلی سال پیش گفتم و الانی که دنیا طالبان رو به رسمیت نمی‌شناسه بهترین زمان اجراش هست
باید مناطق دور سد روی هیرمند و هرات رو که خیلی‌هاشون پارس هم هستند رو به ایران پیوند بزنیم (شبیه کاری که ترکیه تو سوریه کرده)
بعد نزدیک ۳ - ۴ میلیون افغان که در ایران هستند رو بفرستیم اون‌جا بهشون امکانات بدیم. هر کسی هم خواست از طالبان فرار کنه بیاد اونجا
شاید اصلاً اختیارش رو بدیم به کسی مثل پسر احمد شاه مسعود

این داستان هم اگه تکرار شد و معلوم شد خود طالبان درگیر هست (چون خودشون هم چند دسته هستند) چند تا هویتزر لب مرز می‌تونه خیلی خوب پاسخ طالبان رو بده​

 

[Dariush the Great]

نه بابا. پاسگاه توسط یه مشت پابرهنه طالب گرفته بشه؟

من که نظرم رو خیلی سال پیش گفتم و الانی که دنیا طالبان رو به رسمیت نمی‌شناسه بهترین زمان اجراش هست
باید مناطق دور سد روی هیرمند و هرات رو که خیلی‌هاشون پارس هم هستند رو به ایران پیوند بزنیم (شبیه کاری که ترکیه تو سوریه کرده)
بعد نزدیک ۳ - ۴ میلیون افغان که در ایران هستند رو بفرستیم اون‌جا بهشون امکانات بدیم. هر کسی هم خواست از طالبان فرار کنه بیاد اونجا
شاید اصلاً اختیارش رو بدیم به کسی مثل پسر احمد شاه مسعود

این داستان هم اگه تکرار شد و معلوم شد خود طالبان درگیر هست (چون خودشون هم چند دسته هستند) چند تا هویتزر لب مرز می‌تونه خیلی خوب پاسخ طالبان رو بده​

Movafegham, ye no fly zone mitunim unja dorost konim. vali amrika alamshange be pa mikone.

 

[QWECXZ]

Movafegham, ye no fly zone mitunim unja dorost konim. vali amrika alamshange be pa mikone.

آمریکای بایدن بعید می‌دونم خیلی کاری کنه. ضمن اینکه تضعیف طالبان به نفع آمریکا هم هست و شاید خیلی مخالفت نشون ندن
بعد آمریکا خیلی هم کاری نمی‌تونه بکنه اگه چین و روسیه موافق باشن. یه عضو دائم شورای امنیت رو موافق کنیم کافیه
البته اگه این کار به طور عمده علیه منافع چین و روسیه و آمریکا خیلی نباشه، کسی براش مهم نیست اونجا چه اتفاقی می‌افته
با چین و روسیه می‌شه کنار اومد. روسیه عملاً با وجود ترکیه تو شمال سوریه کنار اومده و اگه از منابع افغانستان سهمی ببره راحت قبول می‌کنه. چین هم همینطور

به نظرم پاکستان هم از جنوب یه بافر زون ایجاد کنه. شرق و شمال افغانستان رو ما بر می‌داریم که بیشتر پارس و شیعه هستند. جنوب و غرب رو پاکستان که بیشتر سنی و پشتو هستند
می‌کنیمش یه منطقه خودمختار مثل نخجوان آذربایجان که زیر کنترل و نفوذ ما هستند ولی مردم افغانستان خودشون به خودشون حکومت می‌کنند
بحران مهاجرت به ایران هم رفع می‌شه و افغان‌ها می‌تونند زیر سایه امنیت تو منطقه‌ای که با فرهنگ خودشون سازگار هست باشند و به نفع مردمشون هست

این کار در تاریخ ایران هم خیلی پیشینه داشته. یکی از دلایلی که حمله اعراب به امپراطوری ساسانی ممکن شد از بین رفتن بافر بین ما بود
با این وجود، چنین شعوری رو تو جمهوری اسلامی نمی‌بینم. اینها فقط بلدن مثل سگ به آمریکا و اسرائیل بپرن. با کرم ریختن‌های بقیه کاری ندارن
تازه زینبیون و فاطمیون هم می‌تونند نقش بسیج رو برای امنیت افغانستان داشته باشن
یه چند تا پایگاه موشکی با توپخونه و خندق نزدیک مرز می‌تونه راحت امنیت مرز با طالبان رو برای این منطقه تامین کنه​

 

[sha ah]

Iran and Taliban forces clash in border area

Iranian media say Taliban forces opened fire on Iranian farmers, thinking they violated the border.

www.aljazeera.com

The Taliban are obviously no match for Iran. Iran has thousands of drones, missiles, fighter jets, etc. It's not even a contest.

Nothing ended up happening and Iran sells them lots of gasoline and other necessities. However if they ever hurt or kill one Iranian I say kill atleast 100 of them to teach them a good lesson.

Especially after what happened a few decades ago with the Taliban killing a few Iranian diplomats, they shouldn't be given any warnings. They should know better.

Even back then I believe that Iran should have retaliated with a limited surgical missile strike and airstrikes but after 911 they got their just desserts anyways.

A lion doesnt need to get worked up over an ant. Just flick it away. Sometimes it takes more maturity to exercise restraint. Afghanistan is definitely a hole no country wants to fall into.

In taleba gohi nistan. Vase ma yebar masrafan.

Khoobie ghazie ineke niroohaye khareji ra biroon andakhtan. Ta'amol ba taleba kheyli rahattar az ta'amol ba motejavezhast.

Dar zemn America ziyad ham badesh nemiyad Iran ba oona dargir beshe.

 

[aryobarzan]

In taleba gohi nistan. Vase ma yebar masrafan.

Khoobie ghazie ineke niroohaye khareji ra biroon andakhtan. Ta'amol ba taleba kheyli rahattar az ta'amol ba motejavezhast.

Dar zemn America ziyad ham badesh nemiyad Iran ba oona dargir beshe.

Iran and Taliban forces clash in border area

Iranian media say Taliban forces opened fire on Iranian farmers, thinking they violated the border.

www.aljazeera.com

The Taliban are obviously no match for Iran. Iran has thousands of drones, missiles, fighter jets, etc. It's not even a contest.

Nothing ended up happening and Iran sells them lots of gasoline and other necessities. However if they ever hurt or kill one Iranian I say kill atleast 100 of them to teach them a good lesson.

Especially after what happened a few decades ago with the Taliban killing a few Iranian diplomats, they shouldn't be given any warnings. They should know better.

Even back then I believe that Iran should have retaliated with a limited surgical missile strike and airstrikes but after 911 they got their just desserts anyways.

A lion doesnt need to get worked up over an ant. Just flick it away. Sometimes it takes more maturity to exercise restraint. Afghanistan is definitely a hole no country wants to fall into.

International laws allow a country to seize and occupy territory of a neighboring state if that state is not capable of controlling her borders ..in this case as @QWECXZ mentioned Iran can create a safe strip of land where Afghans refugees in Iran can go to and be protected by Iranian proxy forces..just like Kurdish areas along the Turkish border..

 

[QWECXZ]

International laws allow a country to seize and occupy territory of a neighboring state if that state is not capable of controlling her borders ..in this case as @QWECXZ mentioned Iran can create a safe strip of land where Afghans refugees in Iran can go to and be protected by Iranian proxy forces..just like Kurdish areas along the Turkish border..

The truth is that the majority of countries in the world, including all permanent members of the UNSC, and all neighbors of Afghanistan except for Pakistan, do not recognize Taliban. So, Iran can claim a legal right to create a buffer zone in Afghanistan to maintain its own security, ruled by Afghans. Just like what Turkey has done in Syria. Basically a proxy state. We have proxy militias. And I think we have the military capability to install a proxy state in a country like Afghanistan. If we have the support of just one UNSC member like Russia or China, this plan can take place without problem.

We can create a buffer zone in Afghanistan and occupy territories near Hirmand River, and Herat Province and some other Northern provinces. Most of the residents are Persian and a sizable number of them follow the Shiite sect which makes it easy for them to cooperate with Iran. Plus, they won't be under our rule. They will rule the autonomous region themselves. We can provide them with security and allow them to be an autonomous region that allows the presence of the IRGC and the Army in their territory, and has extensive security and trade agreements with us, but they can choose their own leader. Someone like Ahmad Shah's son can be a good candidate. Zeinabiyoun and Fatemiyoun can also help in establishing security in these areas.

A few missile sites with accurate SRBMs that can hit Taliban headquarters with precision, MBTs, Howitzers, surveillance drones and UCAVs, as well as loitering munitions that we are mass producing really cheaply can guarantee the security of the proxy state. We can deploy them there under our own control. Pakistan can do the same to the southern parts of Afghanistan. I mean why not? This is better for the people of Afghanistan as well. And it can solve the issue of mass migration by Afghans.

 

[Battlion25]

The truth is that the majority of countries in the world, including all permanent members of the UNSC, and all neighbors of Afghanistan except for Pakistan, do not recognize Taliban. So, Iran can claim a legal right to create a buffer zone in Afghanistan to maintain its own security, ruled by Afghans. Just like what Turkey has done in Syria. Basically a proxy state. We have proxy militias. And I think we have the military capability to install a proxy state in a country like Afghanistan. If we have the support of just one UNSC member like Russia or China, this plan can take place without problem.

We can create a buffer zone in Afghanistan and occupy territories near Hirmand River, and Herat Province and some other Northern provinces. Most of the residents are Persian and a sizable number of them follow the Shiite sect which makes it easy for them to cooperate with Iran. Plus, they won't be under our rule. They will rule the autonomous region themselves. We can provide them with security and allow them to be an autonomous region that allows the presence of the IRGC and the Army in their territory, and has extensive security and trade agreements with us, but they can choose their own leader. Someone like Ahmad Shah's son can be a good candidate. Zeinabiyoun and Fatemiyoun can also help in establishing security in these areas.

A few missile sites with accurate SRBMs that can hit Taliban headquarters with precision, MBTs, Howitzers, surveillance drones and UCAVs, as well as loitering munitions that we are mass producing really cheaply can guarantee the security of the proxy state. We can deploy them there under our own control. Pakistan can do the same to the southern parts of Afghanistan. I mean why not? This is better for the people of Afghanistan as well. And it can solve the issue of mass migration by Afghans.

This will mean disrupting Pakistan's economic connectivity and corridor. Pakistan-Afghanistan would rather accept to carve territories out of Iran instead in such instance in place of India. All the force that was meant to go to India will cross over Iran and go westwards.

We are est bound but with such an attempt we will change focus entirely to go west bound which is currently not in our interest but such attempts will give us no other options but to go east instead.

We have currently no immediate interest of going east but if the geopolitical situation changes was hostile from the east than it would force us to go west

 

[QWECXZ]

This will mean disrupting Pakistan's economic connectivity and corridor. Pakistan-Afghanistan would rather accept to carve territories out of Iran instead in such instance.

We are west bound but with such an attempt we will change focus entirely to go east bound which currently not in our interest but such attempts to force us to go east instead

We can cave territories out of Pakistan easier than you can dream of carving territories out of a country that you have always belonged to it. And if Pakistan resists such a plan, we can deploy Indian troops in that proxy state in thousands. How do you like that?

But it is not Pakistan that worries us. Pakistan can hardly feed its people and has not made even slight progress since its independence. It's basically a failed state from many aspects. It's the reaction of the United States or China that are the main issues to such a plan.

 

[Battlion25]

We can cave territories out of Pakistan easier than you can dream of carving territories out of a country that you have always belonged to it. And if Pakistan resists such a plan, we can deploy Indian troops in that proxy state in thousands. How do you like that?

But it is not Pakistan that worries us. Pakistan can hardly feed its people and has not made even slight progress since its independence. It's basically a failed state from many aspects. It's the reaction of the United States or China that are the main issues to such a plan.

India is a sitting duck. They will never lift a finger as they could lose their entire population centers to radiation India will only fight in self-defense. You would be alone such scenario

 

[QWECXZ]

India is a sitting duck. They will never lift a finger as they could lose their entire population centers to radiation India will only fight in self-defense. If you were to miscalculate you are simple alone here

India is more advanced than Pakistan when it comes to missile and nuclear technology. It is 5 times more populous too. And it is doing slightly better in terms of economy than Pakistan. You can ridicule them all you want, but facts are facts.
Meanwhile, you literally threatened to launch war against Iran. Iran alone can teach Pakistan a very harsh lesson. Let alone Iran and India acting together. And believe it or not, India will love a weaker Pakistan, no matter what.

 

[Battlion25]

India is more advanced than Pakistan when it comes to missile and nuclear technology. It is 5 times more populous too. And it is doing slightly better in terms of economy than Pakistan. You can ridicule them all you want, but facts are facts.
Meanwhile, you literally threatened to launch war against Iran. Iran alone can teach Pakistan a very harsh lesson. Let alone Iran and India acting together. And believe it or not, India will love a weaker Pakistan, no matter what.

These are vegetarians and pacifists we have colonized them for over 1000 years we know their limits they aren't exactly the right people to put your trust in. In all realness if we were to storm the gangus it would be an easy conquest.

India will never fight unless it is in self-defense that is what most people don't understand they have alot to lose in fact no nation will fight without that circumstance. If we go West India stays put they will not risk their cities flatline for nothing unless they deem their territorial integrity is chellenged that is when they will fight.. China has them locked down also. They are not that much of a chellenge