Iranian Chill Thread

[Militant Atheist]

‮ايران‬ - ‭BBC ‮فارسی‬ - ‮توافق ژنو؛ سرنوشت باز شدن یک مسیر بانکی برای ایران‬

Bekhatere felestinihaye terrorist bayad dast be daman beshim vase varedate daroo va essentials.

 

[Abii]

‮ايران‬ - ‭BBC ‮فارسی‬ - ‮توافق ژنو؛ سرنوشت باز شدن یک مسیر بانکی برای ایران‬

Bekhatere felestinihaye terrorist bayad dast be daman beshim vase varedate daroo va essentials.

On Skyscrapercity one of the senior posters made a thread a while back about the lack of medicine for his father's condition. He lives in Iran with his family. His father died b/c no hospital in Iran could come up with the medicine. He even posted the name of the medicine and wrote down what the doctor said. You could sense that he was crying as he was leaving those posts.

I wonder how many tens of thousands of cases like this are happening on a day to day basis and we don't know about it. Akhoonds keep claiming that 110% of medicine is produced locally, while reality says otherwise. Meanwhile billions of dollars of Iranian money gets sent to useless arabs around the region so they can go blow themselves up and we end up having to get sanctioned to oblivion.

I wonder why the people of Denmark or Canada don't have to live in misery... I can't quite put my finger on it... /sarcasm

 

[Militant Atheist]

On Skyscrapercity one of the senior posters made a thread a while back about the lack of medicine for his father's condition. He lives in Iran with his family. His father died b/c no hospital in Iran could come up with the medicine. He even posted the name of the medicine and wrote down what the doctor said. You could sense that he was crying as he was leaving those posts.

I wonder how many tens of thousands of cases like this are happening on a day to day basis and we don't know about it. Akhoonds keep claiming that 110% of medicine is produced locally, while reality says otherwise. Meanwhile billions of dollars of Iranian money gets sent to useless arabs around the region so they can go blow themselves up and we end up having to get sanctioned to oblivion.

I wonder why the people of Denmark or Canada don't have to live in misery... I can't quite put my finger on it... /sarcasm

Mullah supporters need to understand that the world is a cruel place and you need to be smart if you want to survive it. If you choose to fight a superpower then you have to face the consequences as well, of course they'll sanction the essentials, they want the people to see which one has the higher priority for them, the medicine, or the nuclear program. If we (rmi5, you and me) didn't care about our country we wouldn't even join this forum, but joining this forum and wasting our time here shows how much we really care about our country, otherwise the time that we waste here could have been spent for things that are more essential, like studying or other crap.

It really saddens me to see that such things are happening, but we have no control over the U.S. foreign policy to affect it in any shape or form, whereas we still have an iota of collective influence to put pressure on Mullahs to think about Iran's national interests rather than those of Muslim Arab neighbors that hate our guts. The Mullahs and their supporters need to understand that not every Iranian supports their actions, they must understand that they can't silence people's voice and they must also understand that by imprisoning online activists who have limited computer literacy (that can't even hide their identities) they can't silence all Iranians.

 

[Abii]

More wonderful discovery.

First let me explain how inflation gets calculated and I will barf out what I came here to say.

To calculate the consumer price index within a territory (aka inflation), governments take a basket of essential goods and services and calculate the increase in price for the basket over time. The basket remains constant and the base year is of course constant too. Goods and services within the basket can't change or the CPI calculation becomes useless and flawed.

In Iran, the government uses obsolete products like crude oil in order to bring down the inflation figure!!! Crude oil is a base product for multi-national corporations and has nothing to with consumers. For example, in Canada items currently used to calculate CPI are: food, shelter, household operations, furnishings and equipment, clothing and footwear, transportation, health and personal care, recreation , education and reading, tobacco and alcoholic beverages.

The Iranian government does two things to alter the CPI:

1) it includes irrelevant items such as crude oil in order to bring the inflation figure down, and

2) they take out items and add in new ones every year, thus leaving the index completely useless. If electricity was calculated in the base year and taken out the year after, you've suddenly created a new base year and you can no longer make a calculation.

Taking out ridiculous items such as crude oil, the current CPI figure for Iran is a whopping 87%!!!!! Iran essentially has hyperinflation.

 

[rahi2357]

مقایسه قیمت بعضی خودروهای خارجی در داخل و خارج از کشور

natije akhlaghi???
bekhatere hemayat az karkhanejat taboot saziye dakheli , mashine varedati be gheymate dastekam 2 barabar forookhte mishe..

hala ghaziye chiye?? inke kheyyliam manteghiye ke mashine kharejio ba gheymate 2barabar mikhari baradare man ! chera? khob nesfe poolio ke pardakht kardi bara mashin bode... nesfe digash poole kharide joonet bode
vagarna azadi! mitooni pride bekhario pole ye mashino bedi .. va albate khob margo zendegi daste khodast ..pride faghat vasilast

 

[Abii]

مقایسه قیمت بعضی خودروهای خارجی در داخل و خارج از کشور

natije akhlaghi???
bekhatere hemayat az karkhanejat taboot saziye dakheli , mashine varedati be gheymate dastekam 2 barabar forookhte mishe..

hala ghaziye chiye?? inke kheyyliam manteghiye ke mashine kharejio ba gheymate 2barabar mikhari baradare man ! chera? khob nesfe poolio ke pardakht kardi bara mashin bode... nesfe digash poole kharide joonet bode
vagarna azadi! mitooni pride bekhario pole ye mashino bedi .. va albate khob margo zendegi daste khodast ..pride faghat vasilast

I don't mean to pour salt over your wound, but some of those prices are actually kind of high believe it or not.

For example a BMW 320i is only 33,000 not 43. And this is Canada where everything is more expensive than in the US! In the US it's probably 31-32K
2013 BMW 320i Test – Review – Car and Driver

All the market prices are too high which makes the Iranian prices even more of a joke.

 

[rahi2357]

I don't mean to pour salt over your wound, but some of those prices are actually kind of high believe it or not.

For example a BMW 320i is only 33,000 not 43. And this is Canada where everything is more expensive than in the US! In the US it's probably 31-32K
2013 BMW 320i Test – Review – Car and Driver

All the market prices are too high which makes the Iranian prices even more of a joke.

that's right but the price in dollar is actually for those cars in iran's border before involving inner customs.and that's high because of dealers / brokers.. for example in kish island it's 43 without customs... and rest of iran it's about 90,000 goddamn it! in canada and US the official representations do all the job and cut dealers.. but here... add "dealers " trouble to customs.

 

[Abii]

that's right but the price in dollar is actually for those cars in iran's border before involving inner customs.and that's high because of dealers / brokers.. for example in kish island it's 43 without customs... and rest of iran it's about 90,000 goddamn it! in canada and US the official representations do all the job and cut dealers.. but here... add "dealers " trouble to customs.

These prices are even more ridiculous considering the difference in incomes.

Anyway, for 90,000 you can buy a brand new Alfa Romeo 4c and still have enough money left over to buy a used 2012 Toyota Camry.

Alfa Romeo 4C

 

[rmi5]

that's right but the price in dollar is actually for those cars in iran's border before involving inner customs.and that's high because of dealers / brokers.. for example in kish island it's 43 without customs... and rest of iran it's about 90,000 goddamn it! in canada and US the official representations do all the job and cut dealers.. but here... add "dealers " trouble to customs.

it has nothing to do with dealers. it is due to the 90% tax on imported cars, while you don't need to pay this tax in Kish

I don't mean to pour salt over your wound, but some of those prices are actually kind of high believe it or not.

For example a BMW 320i is only 33,000 not 43. And this is Canada where everything is more expensive than in the US! In the US it's probably 31-32K
2013 BMW 320i Test – Review – Car and Driver

All the market prices are too high which makes the Iranian prices even more of a joke.

I think it is almost correct. I bought my car for around 20k in US, and it is around 180 million in Iran. it is maybe a bit overpriced for some cars outside of Iran.

 

[Abii]

it has nothing to do with dealers. it is due to the 90% tax on imported cars, while you don't need to pay this tax in Kish


I think it is almost correct. I bought my car for around 20k in US, and it is around 180 million in Iran. it is maybe a bit overpriced for some cars outside of Iran.

After I made that post I thought about the fact that maybe in Iran all these foreign models come in with the highest trim models and that's why the market price they've got before the import taxes are higher. For example, the base price for a 320i is 33K here, but by the time you add in the options it's well above that. Maybe the models listed on that list are all medium trim levels.

 

[rahi2357]

These prices are even more ridiculous considering the difference in incomes.

Anyway, for 90,000 you can buy a brand new Alfa Romeo 4c and still have enough money left over to buy a used 2012 Toyota Camry.

Alfa Romeo 4C

i see

even porsche panamera etc..

it has nothing to do with dealers. it is due to the 90% tax on imported cars, while you don't need to pay this tax in Kish


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no noooo .. you didn't get what i said. doroste aslesh maliato gomroke maloome . abii migoft chera too liste zade 43k dar soorati ke too canada 33 hast .dashtam barash migoftam chera too oon lista gheymatay jahanisho yemeghdar balatar az mamool zade (ke gheymate labe marz ya too bandare iran ghabl az maliato gomrok bod) vagarna ke are koliate majara hamoone.

 

[rmi5]

After I made that post I thought about the fact that maybe in Iran all these foreign models come in with the highest trim models and that's why the market price they've got before the import taxes are higher. For example, the base price for a 320i is 33K here, but by the time you add in the options it's well above that. Maybe the models listed on that list are all medium trim levels.

No, actually this prices are pretty reasonable for the basic models if you add 90% tax, transportation fees from factory to Iran, some dealership costs, and also some interests for the loans that dealers need to pay, and a fair interest margin for dealers ...

i see

even porsche panamera etc..


no noooo .. you didn't get what i said. doroste aslesh maliato gomroke maloome . abii migoft chera too liste zade 43k dar soorati ke too canada 33 hast .dashtam barash migoftam chera too oon lista gheymatay jahanisho yemeghdar balatar az mamool zade (ke gheymate labe marz ya too bandare iran ghabl az maliato gomrok bod) vagarna ke are koliate majara hamoone.

Ahaa, now I got it

 

[Abii]

No, actually this prices are pretty reasonable for the basic models if you add 90% tax, transportation fees from factory to Iran, some dealership costs, and also some interests for the loans that dealers need to pay, and a fair interest margin for dealers ...



Ahaa, now I got it

You guys are right. I wasn't paying attention to all the miscellaneous costs since there are no official dealerships in Iran.

 

[rmi5]

You guys are right. I wasn't paying attention to all the miscellaneous costs since there are no official dealerships in Iran.

Most dealerships are not official but there are/was some official dealerships for Porsche and BMW. But, Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, Ford, ... don't have official dealerships.

 

[Abii]

i see

even porsche panamera etc..

Panamera? That's a mom car man.

Alfa 4c or a Cayman is more like it.

For 90 grand you can even get a Jaguar F Type! Very overpriced car, but you're paying for the style and heritage.