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It would appear that NasrAllah is promising an escalation and using stronger language. We will have to see how much of an impact this methodical taking down of Ashkenaz-ra"el"i communications nodes will have. What I know is that HezbAllah has more experience, training, and firepower than Hamas. This will be a tough road for the Lie-DF, the Scam-DF, the Scum-DF, the Thot-DF, the Tiktok-DF. Should a front open on the Lebanese border that is "official", and the Mosaic horde advances into Lebanon, proper, we will see Hamas have some breathing room, and the Lie-DF forces suffer more humiliation in Gaza as their best units are brought into the hills of Lebanon to face a hell they are scant prepared for. But this will likely also drag both the United States and Iran in, and from my knowledge, IRGC and Sha'abi militias are prepared on the Golan Heights border.
 
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If Iran attacks Israel, it would be absolutely irrational and counterproductive for US to start war with Iran.

Beyond military challenges, here are some of the economic and political consequences of the US-Iran war after Iran closes the Straight of Hormuz (20% of the world’s oil) and Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb (12% of global trade):

1) Inflation. Gasoline prices will go up. Food prices will go up as well, because agriculture uses fertilizers that are made out of oil and transportation costs from rural areas to cities will increase substantially. Industrial products will become more expensive, because they contain products of petrochemical industry and because of high transportation costs. Price of transportation by truck, airplane and ship will increase and this will add to inflation. Standard of living of Americans will decrease because of rising prices.

2) Exports from US to Europe and Asia will decrease, because there will be a recession in those regions. Imported goods will become more expensive adding to inflation in the US.

3) Recession in the US. Falling exports on the one hand and less consumers spending because of high inflation on the other, will result in recession in US. US GDP will shrink 4-7%. If US and EU GDP shrinks by 6% that means US+EU GDP will shrink by 3trln$.

4) Unemployment. If US+EU unemployment increases by additional 6% due to recession, that means additional 20mln unemployed people in Europe and US. For comparison entire Iran’s labor force is 28mln people.

5) Stock Market Crash. Recession and worsening economic conditions will result in the crash of the stock market. Total market capitalization of the U.S. stock market is 50trln$ and EU’s stock market capitalization is 20trln$. If stocks value falls by 30% that is 21trln$ loss of wealth.

6) Bond Market Crash. If you hold US Treasures or US corporate bonds that pay 1% interest in times when inflation is 10-15% you will start selling your bonds and there will be crash in the bond market.

7) Financial Crisis. With the Crash of the Stock Market and Crash of the Bond Market banks will fail. Pension Funds, Investment Funds and Insurance companies might go bankrupt.

8) Budgetary Crisis in the US. With falling GDP you will have falling tax revenues and with rising unemployment and foreign war you will have rising spendings and budget deficit. With mass US Treasures sell-off by investors and foreign Central Banks, the cost of borrowing for US government will increase dramatically and this will be the road towards bankruptcy. And if the Fed starts printing money in these circumstances - this will be the end of dollar as a global reserve currency.

9) Political crisis in the US. American people will want someone to answer for this disaster and President Biden and his Jewish Secretary of State Blinken will become scapegoats and will be put on trial for causing this disaster.

10) Rise in Anti-Semitism in the US. When standard of living of Americans falls and unemployment increases, Americans will start questioning their support of Israel. Americans will ask why they have to fight and die because of Apartheid regime in Israel while paying high price of gasoline. You can see the rise of anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic sentiments among Americans.

11) Crisis in relations between the US and Europe. There might be crisis in relations between the US and their European satellites. European elites will say that American policy in Ukraine resulted in war and left Europe without Russian oil and gas, and now American policy in the Middle East left Europe without Middle Eastern oil (20% of Europe’s demand) and gas. Europeans will say that Americans are to blame for economic crisis in Europe.

12) Rise in Anti-Americanism and Anti-Semitism in Europe (and in the world). There will be rise of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism in Europe if there is economic crisis and massive unemployment, and falling standard of living in Europe because of US attack on Iran for the purpose of protection of Israel. Europe will be the biggest loser in the event of war, because after they were left without Russian oil and gas, they will be left without Middle Eastern oil, which is 20% of their demand and without 2trln$ trade with Asia via Bab-el-Mandeb Straight.

13) Political Crisis in Europe. If there is economic crises and falling standard of living, European populations will blame their leaders for their short-sighted policies (of blindly following Americans) that led to this disaster. You can see rise of popularity of alternative political parties in Europe like AfD in Germany for example.

14) Rise in Anti-Americanism in the Islamic World and more terrorist attacks against Westerners. Of course, if US fights 5 Muslim states simultaneously (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen) on the side of Jews and against Palestinians, there will be huge rise of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world, more terrorist attacks against Westerners, and fully poisoned relations between the West and the World of Islam.

15) Military Crisis in East Asia. If Straight of Hormuz is closed, oil price increased and China experiences economic depression with huge unemployment, China will attack Taiwan for the purpose of diverting attention of domestic public from internal economic problems to external issues and finally solving the Taiwan problem. China will take advantage of the fact that US military will be bogged down in the Middle East and will not be in position to protect Taiwan. While invading Taiwan is not a military option at this moment, China can impose a naval blockade of the island and you will have a military crisis in East Asia. This shows how US attack on Iran and global economic depression can provoke a military crisis in East Asia.

16) 250$ oil price for Russia and Vladimir Putin. Of course, the biggest winner of the US-Iran war and disruption of oil supply from the Persian Gulf will be Russia. A) Russia will be able to sell its oil at 250$ per barrel and earn a lot of money to fund its war in Ukraine and improve domestic economy B) Russia will be happy that US is in economic crisis and is militarily bogged down in the Middle East, while Europe is in economic and political crisis and is more dependent on Russian energy than before C) Russia might offer Europe to sell energy in exchange for Europe decreasing military support to Ukraine D) In times of global depression China will not be afraid of US sanctions and might start supplying weapons to Russia and openly helping it in its efforts in Ukraine in exchange for Russian energy. So Russia will be the only winner of another Gulf War if it happens.

All this shows that US starting war with Iran because of Israel will have catastrophic consequences for the West.
 
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If Iran attacks Israel, it would be absolutely irrational and counterproductive for US to start war with Iran.

Beyond military challenges, here are some of the economic and political consequences of the US-Iran war, with Iran closing the Straight of Hormuz (20% of the world’s oil) and Straight of Bab-el-Mandeb (12% of global trade):

1) Inflation. Gasoline prices will go up. Food prices will go up as well, because agriculture uses fertilizers that are made out of oil and transportation costs from rural areas to cities will increase substantially. Industrial products will become more expensive, because they contain products of petrochemical industry and because of high transportation costs. Price of transportation by truck, airplane and ship will increase and this will add to inflation. Standard of living of Americans will decrease, because of rising prices.

2) Exports from US to Europe and Asia will decrease, because there will be a recession in those regions. Imported goods will become more expensive adding to inflation in US.

3) Recession in the US. Falling exports on the one hand and less consumers spending because of high inflation on the other, will result in recession in US. US GDP will shrink 4-7%. If US and EU GDP shrinks by 6% that means US+EU GDP will shrink by 3trln$.

4) Unemployment. If US+EU unemployment increases by additional 6% due to recession, that means additional 20mln unemployed people in Europe and US. For comparison entire Iran’s labor force is 28mln people.

5) Stock Market Crash. Recession and worsening economic conditions will result in the crash of the stock market. Total market capitalization of the U.S. stock market is 50trln$ and EU’s stock market capitalization is 20trln$. If stocks value falls by 30% that is 21trln$ loss of wealth.

6) Bond Market Crash. If you hold US Treasures or US corporate bonds that pay 1% interest in times when inflation is 10-15% you will start selling your bonds and there will be crash in the bond market.

7) Financial Crisis. With the Crash of the Stock Market and Crash of the Bond Market banks will fail. Pension Funds, Investment Funds and Insurance companies might go bankrupt.

8) Budgetary Crisis in the US. With falling GDP you will have falling tax revenues and with rising unemployment and foreign war you will have rising spendings and budget deficit. With mass US Treasures sell-off by investors and foreign Central Banks, the cost of borrowing for US government will increase dramatically and this will be the road towards bankruptcy. And if the Fed starts printing money in these circumstances - this will be the end of dollar as a global reserve currency.

9) Political crisis in the US. American people will want someone to answer for this disaster and President Biden and his Jewish Secretary of State Blinken will become scapegoats and will be put on trial for causing this disaster.

10) Rise in Anti-Semitism in the US. When standard of living of Americans falls and unemployment increases, Americans will start questioning their support of Israel. Americans will ask why they have to fight and die because of Apartheid regime in Israel while paying high price of gasoline. You can see the rise of anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic sentiments among Americans.

11) Crisis in relations between the US and Europe. There might be crisis in relations between the US and their European clients. European elites will say that American policy in Ukraine resulted in war and left Europe without Russian oil and gas, and now American policy in the Middle East left Europe without Middle Eastern oil (20% of Europe’s demand) and gas. Europeans will say that Americans are to blame for economic crisis in Europe.

12) Rise in Anti-Americanism and Anti-Semitism in Europe (and in the world). There will be rise of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism in Europe if there is economic crisis and massive unemployment, and falling standard of living in Europe because of US attacking Iran for the purpose of protecting Israel. Europe will be the biggest loser in the event of war, because after they were left without Russian oil and gas, they will be left without Middle Eastern oil, which is 20% of their demand and without 2trln$ trade with Asia via Bab-el-Mandeb Straight.

13) Political Crisis in Europe. If there is economic crises and falling standard of living, European populations will blame their leaders for their short-sighted policies of blindly following Americans that led to this disaster. You can see rise in popularity of alternative political parties in Europe like AfD in Germany for example.

14) Rise in Anti-Americanism in the Islamic World and more terrorist attacks against Westerners. Of course, if US fights 5 Muslim states simultaneously (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen) on the side of Jews and against Palestinians, there will be huge rise of anti-Americanism in the Muslim world, more terrorist attacks against Westerners, and fully poisoned relations between the West and the World of Islam.

15) Military Crisis in East Asia. If Straight of Hormuz is closed, oil price increased and China experiences economic depression with huge unemployment, China will attack Taiwan for the purpose of diverting attention of domestic public from internal economic problems to external issues and finally solving the Taiwan problem. China will take advantage of the fact that US military will be bogged down in the Middle East and will not be in position to protect Taiwan. While invading Taiwan is not a military option at this moment, China can impose a naval blockade of the island and you will have a military crisis in East Asia. This shows how US attack on Iran and global economic depression can provoke a military crisis in East Asia.

16) 250$ oil price for Russia and Vladimir Putin. Of course, the biggest winner of US-Iran war and disruption of oil supply from the Persian Gulf will be Russia. A) Russia will be able to sell its oil at 250$ per barrel and earn a lot of money to fund its war in Ukraine and improve domestic economy B) Russia will be happy that US is in economic crisis and is militarily bogged down in the Middle East, while Europe is in economic and political crisis and is more dependent on Russian energy than before C) Russia might offer Europe to sell energy in exchange for Europe decreasing military support to Ukraine D) In times of global depression China will not be afraid of US sanctions and might start supplying weapons to Russia and helping it in its efforts in Ukraine in exchange for Russian energy. So Russia will be the only winner of another Gulf War if it happens.

All this shows that US starting war with Iran because of Israel will have catastrophic consequences for the West.
Economically, Recession and depression are like music to elite's ears, because it is during such economic crisis when a huge part of public wealth is shifted to the private sectors creating more billionaires, as well as more homeless and poor. For example, before October 1929, there were only 11 billionaires in US, but shortly after that day, that number jumped to 55 billionaires. Later, after Reagonomic recession, that number grew to over 450 billionaires. Not bad at all for the wealthy who can concentrate wealth and power. So, always follow the money to get to the truth. Keep in mind, US entered WWII to get out of its major economic depression not because of any ideology.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. IT TALKS, WALKS, AND HAS BELCHING PRIVILEGES.

Politically, What keeps Iran from becoming a nuclear armed states is preferred by both west and the east. US does not go to war to win or loose anymore, it's all about selling defense contracts worth hundreds of billions of dollars each (Afghan war: LM made $980 bills - Raytheon $450+bills, even Boeing with its 737 disaster still made over $250 bills, so that's war for you). When the first bullet of war leaves the nozzle, they all go "KAAACHIIIING", Then the Champaign bottles pop open, Caviar passed around, and the yachts sail away!

War with Iran is like war with any other. The Sunni puppets can sit on the sideline while jooz run a mock all over Middle east and Palestine, then blame the Shia for the destruction of it.
Therefore the saga continues, the infamous "CHURCHILL'S ROOSTERS" continue to fight among each other in the ring, While the spoils go to the ring holder, you know what I mean,

Soon, Iz rael will eliminate Palestine all together, thanks to Abraham Brothers and Muslim Brotherhood, but of course, Iran and Shia will be blamed for it by those who stood aside and watched it all happen, and did nothing about it. In fact, Israelis and Abraham brothers are already blaming Iran for IDF wholesale killing of Gazans, isn't that something.

Both china and US need a war or their economy tank. Russia has already got its war in Ukraine, So the fat cats are happy there. Let's hope next war will be between China and US in Taiwan, and hopefully India mixed in there, both of whom are heavily populated, so let's hope war starts there not in Persian gulf.
 
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Agreed...US will force capitulation of Iran by "nuclear blackmail"....same as they did with Japan.. no need for a messy "conventional" war with Iran.

Drop a low yield device in Iranian desert and demand capitulation ...oh..wait... but what about this so called "International community"..well we all know the answer to that one.:undecided:

Mullahs of Iran are playing poker with two nuclear armed rogue nations...They better have something better than few BM in their inventory.

Even better: quit playing the game and fix the country..Iranians did not put mullahs in power to play " chicken with world's supper power...they want progress not politics..
Before isalm, Iran ruled this planet, after Islam, this planet ruled Iran.

Your Supreme Leader(SL) and his Supreme Cheerleaders (SC) are getting too old. they need to retire and let fresh blood lead your country preferably without any azari in charge. You can let him keep that S350 he draggs around the country with himself anywhere he goes just to assure he'll be fine so he won't get what Soliemani did. Any russian air defense is just as good as no air defense anyway. Russia will protect you like they did Syria, Armenia, and Lybia. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

A Persian friend of mine who is an engineer told me a horrible story about an azari king in Iran:
There was this azari king who used to get naked, lie down on bottom of a man made hill, and had girls as young as 9 years old, stripped naked and had them rolled down that hill onto his filthy turkers arms. He also let russia, UK, and France divide Iran into three region of their influence.
 
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Before isalm, Iran ruled this planet, after Islam, this planet ruled Iran.

Your Supreme Leader(SL) and his Supreme Cheerleaders (SC) are getting too old. they need to retire and let fresh blood lead your country preferably without any azari in charge. You can let him keep that S350 he draggs around the country with himself anywhere he goes just to assure he'll be fine so he won't get what Soliemani did. Any russian air defense is just as good as no air defense anyway. Russia will protect you like they did Syria, Armenia, and Lybia. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

A Persian friend of mine who is an engineer told me a horrible story about an azari king in Iran:
There was this azari king who used to get naked, lie down on bottom of a man made hill, and had girls as young as 9 years old, stripped naked and had them rolled down that hill onto his filthy turkers arms. He also let russia, UK, and France divide Iran into three region of their influence.
Before isalm, Iran ruled this planet, after Islam, this planet ruled Iran.

Your Supreme Leader(SL) and his Supreme Cheerleaders (SC) are getting too old. they need to retire and let fresh blood lead your country preferably without any azari in charge. You can let him keep that S350 he draggs around the country with himself anywhere he goes just to assure he'll be fine so he won't get what Soliemani did. Any russian air defense is just as good as no air defense anyway. Russia will protect you like they did Syria, Armenia, and Lybia. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

A Persian friend of mine who is an engineer told me a horrible story about an azari king in Iran:
There was this azari king who used to get naked, lie down on bottom of a man made hill, and had girls as young as 9 years old, stripped naked and had them rolled down that hill onto his filthy turkers arms. He also let russia, UK, and France divide Iran into three region of their influence.
Keep drinking your Johnny Walker mate, your jibberish rambling is a good source of amusement
 
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